"Players in uproar over Elite Dangerous: Odyssey's bugs and poor performance" - PC Gamer article

[StewartScott]

Not sure we are looking at the same list. This is what we have as of now, with EDO now on 29, but with 11 other games on sale above it. Planet Zoo is below at 34, with Planet Zoo Premium is above at 18. Not bad for a niche game DLC to remain so high for over a week and more especially if we include the pre order sale priod. Given the popularity of Planet Zoo since launch I would not consider this indicative of poor sales. At least not yet

One thing you didn't note there, 'every single game' on that top sellers list has a blue thumbs up symbol and one and only one game on that same list has a single RED thumbs down symbol, which way do you suppose the future sales are going to go from here on out?

 

[Scoob101]

which way do you suppose the future sales are going to go from here on out?

That would depend on how much gets fixed how quickly.

And assuming they can get their house in order for the console release, then that sector would be largely unaffected.

 

[Zinegata]

Quite right. Unfortunately were not the primary customer - the shareholders are.

It should be, but it isn't. It's all about the share price and unfortunately, the first one is only indirectly linked to the other. And while they can rake in a large proportion of their forecasted earnings just on pre-orders, the status quo isn't likely to change.

Shareholder supremacy, frankly, is a very recent concept and is treated as gospel primarily in the Western, English-speaking world.

Most of the world in fact largely rejects it in favor of stakeholder supremacy - which holds that a company is beholden to all of its stakeholders - which means the shareholders, the employees, and the customers.

Indeed, most American and British companies stuck with stakeholder supremacy until the 1970s. Thing is when they switched to shareholder supremacy it actually precipitated a wholesale decline of American and British company competitiveness. This is why West Germany and Japan became economic superpowers in the 80s, followed by China, South Korea, and the rest of Southeast Asia today.

There is in fact nothing superior about shareholder supremacy. Even Western economists decried it as outright stupidity in the 1970s - because in reality its just trying to rationalize uncontrolled greed leading to neverending economic crisis and company bankruptcy.

 

[Erei]

One thing you didn't note there, 'every single game' on that top sellers list has a blue thumbs up symbol and one and only one game on that same list has a single RED thumbs down symbol, which way do you suppose the future sales are going to go from here on out?

That would be because it doesn't serve his narrative. Just like the multiple people who said that people downvote easier than upvote on steam. As this screen proves.

 

[tolm]

That would depend on how much gets fixed how quickly.

And assuming they can get their house in order for the console release, then that sector would be largely unaffected.

As a member of that “sector” I can tell you I will be hugely cautious and highly-unlikely to purchase the DLC at launch based on (a) what I’ve seen so far on PC and (b) what they’ve stated their intentions are for the console market.

Frankly, I don’t think their plans (somehow backport all the broken new code to run on previous generation hardware) are remotely viable.

 

[tolm]

Shareholder supremacy, frankly, is a very recent concept and is treated as gospel primarily in the Western, English-speaking world.

Most of the world in fact largely rejects it in favor of stakeholder supremacy - which holds that a company is beholden to all of its stakeholders - which means the shareholders, the employees, and the customers.

Indeed, most American and British companies stuck with stakeholder supremacy until the 1970s. Thing is when they switched to shareholder supremacy it actually precipitated a wholesale decline of American and British company competitiveness. This is why West Germany and Japan became economic superpowers in the 80s, followed by China, South Korea, and the rest of Southeast Asia today.

There is in fact nothing superior about shareholder supremacy. Even Western economists decried it as outright stupidity in the 1970s - because in reality its just trying to rationalize uncontrolled greed leading to neverending economic crisis and company bankruptcy.

Indeed - it’s short-termism in its purest from: satisfy the shareholders by hitting arbitrary targets for share price and dividend payouts and worry about your customers and any long-term fallout later.