Playing after end of project lifecycle

Kyokushin

Kyokushin
I am playing Elite since 2014 (Beta 2) and i still like it, even when i did everything in-game i still like to play and fly in my space ship around the moon or give a shot between a Jupiter and his ring with warp 2.
Now i am sure - even in next ten or twenty years i would like to back to Elite as i am playing old Frontier sometimes now. I just like it and i am sure it will be like a back to a good times and good memories.

Nothing lasts for ever, we all know that. When i will hit 60 or 70 surely i would like to play my Krait or FDL or whatever and bring up back a good memories, even if it will be offline.

And now to the point, Elite was told as ten years project, the four years are behind us, the question for FDev. Will be planned some 'offline/local/network/client-server' version after the Elite project will hit the end?
 
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Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Kyokushin said:
I am playing Elite since 2014 (Beta 2) and i still like it, even when i did everything in-game i still like to play and fly in my space ship around the moon or give a shot between a Jupiter and his ring with warp 2.
Now i am sure - even in next ten or twenty years i would like to back to Elite as i am playing old Frontier sometimes now. I just like it and i am sure it will be like a back to a good times and good memories.

Nothing lasts for ever, we all know that. When i will hit 60 or 70 surely i would like to play my Krait or FDL or whatever and bring up back a good memories, even if it will be offline.

And now to the point, the question for FDev. Will be planned some 'offline/local/network/client-server' version after the Elite project will hit the end?
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The official statement on the end of the life cycle is that the community will be given the source code so we can run our private servers, or alternatively, the game will be recoded to offline Solo only.
 

Kyokushin

Kyokushin
Chris Simon said:
The official statement on the end of the life cycle is that the community will be given the source code so we can run our private servers, or alternatively, the game will be recoded to offline Solo only.
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Thanx for repply.
I would prefer to have a possibility to play with friends than solo (maybe some local server, etc). Thankfully to Elite i meet many wonderful people and i am sure we will be in contact even in next 20 or 30 years and surely they will would like to play ED by the same reason as me, even if we will be a grandfathers.

I played Elite 30 years ago. I know 30 years is a long time in IT, but my father is still playing a Quake 2 with his friends (they are around 65), so i think a playing games is state of mind. An age is rather a matter of mind, not the body. My grandfather is 96 now and he is using internet, using email.
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Frontier as a company is doing great.
So in my eyes, there is always a possibility that after they've pulled the plug on ED, there might be the next one. :)
Maybe some technological breakthrough in computing will mean the next Elite after ED will be even better in every way.
 

Kyokushin

Kyokushin
Yes, they are doing great. No any other game gave me more joy and entertiment than Elite (even with these poor solo/group modes)
 

Kyokushin

Kyokushin
rlsg said:
I would not confuse a 10 year business plan with a 10 year project life - personally, knowing what FD have said they want to add to ED I fully expect the project to have a life expectancy well in excess of 10 years from release.
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Right. I also wish to live long and prosper for Elite :)
 

Rock Hunter

Rock Hunter
After Beyond they’re talking of more paid for content, so I’m hoping for a continuing evolution. I’d happily pay for future, what shall we call them...games, versions, iterations? Building from what we have now to what will be in the future. If VR has become the norm in most gaming in the next five years (let’s say) then the future of Elite made and coded implicitly for future VR along with other advances is extremely exciting to me.

A real life in space could be so much closer.
 

MJC

MJC
Hey Kyokushin, long time mate ... Yes I also remember loading Elite casette on my C64. Looong time ago in a galaxy far far away. Glad you're still enjoying the game. Although I haven't played for almost a year I'm still working on some experimental top secret small ship build which I hope to trial next month. For me Elite is the single game where I have invested most time. 4yr since beta 2, years of doing Pvp and organising my clan for PvP league. Best memories ever. No other game has given me so much. But I have to say all this mode switching, cl, lack of content and dedicated servers don't give me much confidence long term. I actually think if FD stopped to support Elite next year and gave us the source code the community would make a much better job. We have a great community full of talent, artists, graphics designers, game developers, network programmers, role players... I think we could easily create a European/US PvP and a PVE servers which would cater for tens of thousands of people. Heck I would even pay subscription to keep servers going. Like the independent free servers for WoW. I'm sure bugs would get fixed, some great missions and storytelling would emerge, traded commodities and player run economy. I think we would do a much better job than FD. So see you on EU PvP server my friend ;) One day...
 

krylite

krylite
Yes, I'd doubt the Elite franchise would "die" with Elite. It will probably last at least as long as EvE or FSX, about 15 years and maybe more. Then I would bet there would be a new Elite game (with preferably all cmdrs, assets, or at least store paints&extras transferable ) when tech really catches up to the false-start dreams and expectations misnformed for years by the StarCitizen ponzi marketing and general overestimation of today's game tech feasibility and lack of patience with Frontier.
 

Siobhan

Siobhan
krylite said:
Yes, I'd doubt the Elite franchise would "die" with Elite. It will probably last at least as long as EvE or FSX, about 15 years and maybe more. Then I would bet there would be a new Elite game (with preferably all cmdrs, assets, or at least store paints&extras transferable ) when tech really catches up to the false-start dreams and expectations misnformed for years by the StarCitizen marketing and general overestimation of today's game tech feasibility and lack of patience with Frontier.
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Well the franchise is 34 years strong now, so a fair bit more than 15. EvE as you mentioned got its inspiration from Elite after all, and I suspect when it's all but forgotten, Elite will trundle on.

So yeah, after ED round its course, there'll be an Elite V or something. The fan base is too mature for it to fail,no matter how often it stumbles.
 

Blackcompany

Banned
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rlsg said:
I would not confuse a 10 year business plan with a 10 year project life - personally, knowing what FD have said they want to add to ED I fully expect the project to have a life expectancy well in excess of 10 years from release.
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Fdev never said they had a ten year plan.

Braben said, once, that he hoped to work on the game for ten years. The vaunted Ten Year Plan is fan fiction.
 

lenna

lenna
Blackcompany said:
Fdev never said they had a ten year plan.

Braben said, once, that he hoped to work on the game for ten years. The vaunted Ten Year Plan is fan fiction.
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I would not be surprised if a 10 year business plan has been declared at some point (or even revised every year), that is the normal term for long range business plans.

I have never personally seen any declaration regarding expected project end date where ED is concerned.
 

wstephenson

wstephenson
Chris Simon said:
The official statement on the end of the life cycle is that the community will be given the source code so we can run our private servers, or alternatively, the game will be recoded to offline Solo only.
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Do you have an up-to-date reference for this?

I recall DB answering this question on an AMA or something with something pretty non-specific, like 'We will zip up the state of the servers and release it', but I don't remember any mention of source code or an offer to implement Offline Mode!

At FX17, in one of the premium ticket holders' private sessions, I asked David and Adam Woods this question, and David pretty much batted it away with "it's too far in the future, but we want to support the game for a very long time". I then impressed upon Adam the usefulness of advance planning for the 'legacy' phase from my own experience in the free software world. If you have any concrete information on your statement, I'd love to see it, but I fear that that first vague statement above has been embellished over time.
 

Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
It's GaaS and I doubt there is any way to play it when they turn the servers off. No matter what someone might have said once about there might be a way to play. I don't think there will be.
 

Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
Blackcompany said:
Fdev never said they had a ten year plan.

Braben said, once, that he hoped to work on the game for ten years. The vaunted Ten Year Plan is fan fiction.
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The 10-year-plan is a recurring theme in Online Game Marketing. Is like the 1000-year-empire. Marketing speak to generate confidence in a Games as a Service - Model where nothing will work anymore when the plugs are pulled on the servers. But with a 10-year-prospect - you'd get enough out of the live service, no?

Anthem (EA) does this right now, too, in the forefront of their release. Destiny did it. They all do - to instill confidence their "live service" is endurable enough to spend cash on.
 
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