I might be being too sensitive to the English language, but “as much as they claim to” sounds like you’re doubting whether they are playing as much as they say they are. I.e. that they are lying about their play time.
Playing, not grinding...
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I might be being too sensitive to the English language, but “as much as they claim to” sounds like you’re doubting whether they are playing as much as they say they are. I.e. that they are lying about their play time.
Sorry, but I like the new system, I know what negative effects are going to be and I know when I've maxed out. Better than rolling 20 rolls on G5 that are worse than a G3.
I also understand what they are trying to do. As far as it goes, if you bought a car and wanted to make it go faster, you might decide to buy a supercharger kit. Want to go faster, put an undersize pulley on it (that's G2) want to go faster, put a larger inter-cooler on it (G3). Decide that you want to turbocharge it instead? Well, you have to take the supercharger, and all the extra parts off and restart the process. This is what should have been done from the start. It makes more sense than with I supercharged my engine, now I want to turbocharge it and presto-majico you're at grade 5.
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Exactly this^^
For the most part, mat collection is something you do while you're doing other stuff. Kind of like mining in WoW
Can I just say that there are some things in this life that absolutely are, by any reasonable measure, grind. Exhibit A: Shooting rocks, and trying to pick up all the pieces, one by one. It's not fun. It's not engaging game play. It's not bad. It's AWFUL.
It even comes with genuine feelings of nausea and motion sickness for many people from the lurching of the rover. How is that for fun.
Get big ship with turrets and a fighter. Go to res site. Scan and shoot while a swarm of collectors gather mats. Go to trader and cash in. Remote engineer right there in the station.
To me, the issue is now far less about the process of upgrading.....which is much improved in 3.0......but about our "relationships" with the Engineers. How we get access to Engineers, how we gain Rank with Engineers, how Dynamic the Rank system should be (does it just go from 1 to 5, then that's it, or can we cash in rank for favours like we could pre-3.0?) & how useful Rank is outside of actual Crafting Grades (like being able to buy rank-locked, "off the shelf" modules.....in a similar vein to Palin's Corrosion Proof Cargo Racks). My hope is that they will look into this side of thing over the course of this season.
Yep, its amazing how much stuff I acquire just through normal game-play. If a mission takes me to a planetary surface, then I'll usually drop down a few kilometres away & try to pick up materials en-route.
Likewise, if I am en-route to a station, & I see a DSS or ESS along the way, then I will usually drop in & take a look (the last couple of times, though, I got jumped by pirates whilst doing that
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It is your opinion, and thus isn't really 'absolute'. Matters really from point of view.
It seems to me that planet prospecting is yielding much more in general. Granted, I went to one random planet one time since the update and so it is a sample size of one.
I found rocks fairly quickly (not the 30 mins to an hour like usual) and I actually did see rare elements more often than the 3 hours just to find 3 that it used to take. Again, sample size of one.
That being said, I am also free (and do/did) collect everything because I can always trade what I don't want for what I do.
I am happy with that.
I like a lot of the aspects of the game since 3.0.
I found rocks fairly quickly (not the 30 mins to an hour like usual) and I actually did see rare elements more often than the 3 hours just to find 3 that it used to take. Again, sample size of one.
That being said, I am also free (and do/did) collect everything because I can always trade what I don't want for what I do.
I am happy with that.
I like a lot of the aspects of the game since 3.0.
It does for sure, and the same with USS’. The spawn rate of Chemical Manupulators at Dav’s Hope has been increased too. I would say it’s about an average of 1x3 CM’s per run now.
That, sir is an excellent idea that had never occurred to me.
One man's nausea is another man's therapy. I enjoy driving my SRV around in VR. I did 3 hours+ yesterday as I mentioned in the OP.. It seems something has improved this patch. Can't put my finger on it, though... less spinny?
P.s. re nausea, have you made sure your graphics setting are Keep SRV terrain level (or something like that) I'm a hardened VR nut but even I would walk away from a 3 hour ride weak-kneed if I didn't click that checkbox.
One man's nausea is another man's therapy. I enjoy driving my SRV around in VR. I did 3 hours+ yesterday as I mentioned in the OP.. It seems something has improved this patch. Can't put my finger on it, though... less spinny? more advanced viewpoint smoothing?
P.s. re nausea, have you made sure your graphics setting are Keep SRV terrain level (or something like that) I'm a hardened VR nut but even I would walk away from a 3 hour ride weak-kneed if I didn't click that checkbox.
Driver is a man who knows how to play this game properly... He is a Type 9 lover and enjoys a good challenge far more than min-maxing with a grind!
Well played, sir.
p.s. is the official word "grinded" or "ground" hmmm.... interesting...
And if someone does it a lot, are they a "grinder?"
Not if you're having fun doing it. I've done this to death in so many ways. Some people seemingly waste their time doing stuff they do not like doing, over and over again to get a shiny at the end of it. And then they repeat the process again. And again. Then they complain about the grind.
You're perfectly entitled not to like the game or parts of it. But if you don't like them but keep playing regardless then it's your own fault. Either stop playing or look at the game a different way. This may or may not work. As I've said before...play the game, dont let the game play you.
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^^ THIS...
I love Sudoku. It's basically repeatedly filling up a massive 9x9 square with digits 1 to 9.
For some odd reason, I enjoyed my 10kJump 'round the galaxy stint May-August 2016. Would probably not do it again with GraXXoR, but might well do it in 2019 with Rick Sanchez (3L-173) if they improve exploration mechanics this year.
Nearly every large ship I own now has a collector limpet controller and a wake scanner. The number of materials I pick up is insane.
The per material storage is almost the best part of the 3.0 update.
For me it completely removes the "pressure" from collecting materials. Now I can just collect everything and don't have to worry about storage space. As a result it feels like always finding something useful - stupid I know since the usefulness of the mats hasn't changed, but "feelings".
Makes collecting mats more fun to me as I don't have to collect specific mats when I need them. I can collect them when I enjoy doing something that happens to result in me finding mats. Yay.
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Seconded.
Mat storage and exchange has for me truly overhauled the game. It on the surface looks subtle, but the effect at least to me has been huge, and frankly, my gameplay style has no real
urgency for much greater Eng power. I have always wanted to gather pirated goods post ship destruction and return those needed items to the population (but cannot as they remain "stolen, even though I remain unwanted and a non criminal) and this change, although I'm not returning items still has an effect of not leaving things behind that has value.
What I enjoy most about ESO is the ability to role play as a resource retrieval specialist. Yes, thieving the thieves. I can clean what has been marked by the thief as stolen and return those items to the resource return center (alright-thieves den) ..and no you cannot return stolen goods here through the BM without harming the economy.
Perhaps one day---something like that will arrive here
Anyways, whats happened so far re mats is a big pos step...more to come I'm sure.
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When it comes to "shooting rocks is suck", my opinion isn't a minority view.
I reject your definition. Keep the emotions out of this.