Please Frontier please don't make a Central/South America scenery pack again
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I’d love a pelican at some point but there are too many more uniquely SA animals to add for it to come in a South / Central American pack IMO
Why not white?
Its the most common in captivity, the only one with a meaningfull captive presence in both america and the EAZA, has the largest range across 3 continents and is the iconic african pelican, whats not to love?
It’s just one colour, it’s like in a game when you have the base skin and you get cooler colourful skins lol. Like the brown is so much prettier.
Agree.It’s just one colour, it’s like in a game when you have the base skin and you get cooler colourful skins lol. Like the brown is so much prettier.
Peruvian is even more colorful. But i also prefer Brown pelican over white pelican
If we get one i think it will be the white pelican forn the reason König mentioned though.
North America needs a scenery pack. 
South America needs animal pack!
South America needs animal pack!
Totally agree with you, we already have scenery for that general area split across the base game, South America pack, SEA Pack, Tropical Pack, a tiny bit of Conservation and Grasslands. We do not need any more of it give us some animals from there now please, I actually have some of my requested bird species FROM Central and South America so I'm really hoping they stop ignoring this region. T_T
It would be great if we got both of these.North America needs a scenery pack.
Can I be that bad apple and say South America needs a scenery pack more than an animal pack? Animal rosters are always better in a scenery pack paired with a great selection of decorations we lack as much as animals. It seems we often forget the community gets more hostile to animal packs compared to scenery packs like comparing tropical/oceania to arid/eurasia feedback.
In the end, Eurasia got a better feedback than Tropical.
Thing is we need more SA that can fit in a scenery pack and we probably we don't have a lot of steam left. I was ok with a scenery pack to revisit LAM at first because i thought there were chances we could get the other animals in other packs, but now i really don't think we'll get more than maybe two more packs so i want my LAM animal pack. If we get a CA scenery pack that means no rhea no mara no spectacled bear probably just one monkey and maybe even something like a flamingo instead of other SA animals we need more than those imo.
I'd say we need more South American animals whatever reception may be.
But speaking of reception, I feel like it's worse for Animal Packs because overwhelming majority of people in community (here the least, but here also) have unrealistic wishes for them.
People see more animal slots as more chances for their favorites to get crammed in.
It weirdly repeats itself from pack to pack despite rather obvious pattern.
As of quality of rosters, I belive it's matched, you can always cut out great "4 animal roster" out of any Animal Pack. It's just that the scenery is swapped out for three more less exciting picks (and even that's not always the case).
Maybe in technical terms, as in quality of animal per slots in pack, I would have to agree
Scenery Pack got one huge thing animal pack doesnt though:
Plants
No one speaks about it, but south american plant replesentation might be the shallowest in the game, even worse then oceania.
Imo an actual useable plant roster is = to atleast the 3 extra animals but honestly id go even higher.
South america got a stupid amount of plants irl, completly rediculous and the fact that ingame we have ~20 really isnt a great look
The least id want is pampas grass, some south american cactei and some more trees and bushes for variety, as those that south america actually has are also among the weakest in the entire game, as the models are just old and ugly on quite a few of them.
Combined with new scenery allways being neat and that aslong frontier doesnt give us actual monkey and bird clones while also providing a new bird and monkey rig each there wouldnt even be that many must have animals in that animal pack.
I really dont see the issue in getting new monkey, new bird, ocelot, whatever while also fleshing out everything else.
Id even go so far that an improved second sloth aka the right one and in general better functionality and customiseability for the sloth WE, best case that we are able to build our own climbing frames that the sloth can teleport to instead of being forced to use that ugly as hell one and that would absolutly be a banger dlc, no complains here
Yeah, agree about the unrealistic wishes for Animal packs. Though sometimes it works out -be it for an individual or the community in general. The North American Animal Pack is proof of that.
But regarding a Latin American Animal Pack, I see your point. I'd love to get the Brazilian Porcupine, Coati and three primates in there, but I don't see that happening at all. It's too much work to ask at this point I think. But if I were to remove a primate and the Porcupine, have one primate that's a medium amount of work (Howler Monkey), and another that's close to one we have now (Squirrel Monkey to Capuchian Monkey), and add in some other animals similar to what we have now, Spectacled Bear, Ocelot, Greater Rhea...add in the oddball that probably isn't too work intensive like the Patagonian Mara (or replace it with something easier) and leave the main work effort towards the Coati, I can possibly see that. Though it's also possibly asking for too much.
Our pack would probably even more realistically look like:
Coatimundi species
Ocelot
Howler Monkey species, probably Black Howler
Greater Rhea
Spectacled Bear
Alpaca
Maybe the Mara, if it not too much effort? It would bolster the non-amazon area of South America.
Two Toed Sloth species - even as a WTE animal I can't see it being a huge amount of work.
That's really only one animal that takes a lot of work, and two that would take a medium amount of work (Howler, Mara) and 5 "near clone" type of animals. Sounds about right for an animal pack TBH - Arid pack excepting because of just how much work probably went into the Porcupine.
Getting as realistic as possible, these would be your 2 options:
Latin America Scenery Pack
Or
Latin America Animal Pack
Latin America Scenery Pack
- Geoffroy’s Spider Monkey (Idk why people consider it to be a “porcupine” situation, you have the siamang brachiation, all the spider monkey would really need is a body slant and a fifth grab-able limb (tail)).
- Ocelot
- Greater Rhea
- South American Coati
- Hoffmans Two Toed Sloth (WTE)
Or
Latin America Animal Pack
- Black Howler Monkey
- Ocelot
- Greater Rhea
- Spectacled Bear
- American Flamingo
- Vicuña
- Orinoco Crocodile
- Hoffmans Two Toed Sloth (WTE)
Ehh well if that is the animal pack we get then o rather get the scenery pack lol
Those last three animals are really not something i would care about at all (well maybe a bit for the vicuña but i prefer guanaco or southamerican tapir over it tbh).
I doubt we could get both a coati and a spider monkey though.
I can't see the spider monkey (if we even consider it a realistic choice) having a fifth limb but rather a tail hanging animation like the existing one already ingame to fit the style of existing animals. There are many realistic features of animals missing yet not many of us are too bothered by that.
Great then you figured out why not everyone is on board with the animal pack, cause the last 3 certanly are very realistic choices for this pack