Please Help, how to setup 3D on an LG 3D TV

Imrus76 · Apr 17, 2015

I have an LG 3D TV, tried to configure the 3D, but I cannot find the correct adjustment.
What happened: switched to 3D in Elite options, tired to play with sliders, but the picture is not the optimal, blurred.

Should I change something else, or what is the solution? Is there any solution?

Any ideas, help are welcome

drkaii · Apr 17, 2015

Imrus76 said:
I have an LG 3D TV, tried to configure the 3D, but I cannot find the correct adjustment.
What happened: switched to 3D in Elite options, tired to play with sliders, but the picture is not the optimal, blurred.

Should I change something else, or what is the solution? Is there any solution?

Any ideas, help are welcome

I did this with a Samsung tv a while back and had the same problems as you. Fixing it involves a number of things.

Off the top of my head they were getting the refresh rate right, making sure it recognised it was HDMI, I think it had a "game mode", the resolution had to be right, and I had to fiddle with all the advanced and random video settings. Smart tvs seem to have a vast abundance of them.

It took googling and persistence.

I know I haven't been able to give you an actual answer and if you're lucky someone will but just know that it almost definitely is possible to fix, although when you do eventually get it working right, it's not going to be perfect. Playing on tv is always a compromise.

Edit: you need to do some of these things on the pc and tv. Nvidia control panel has some tv options under resolution

Imrus76 · Apr 17, 2015

If I play in standard 2D in my TV, it has excellent picture quality.
I try to change some settings on Nvidia control panel.

drkaii · Apr 17, 2015

Oh thinking about it you need a special 3D mode in 3D vision to run on tvs over HDMI, check nvidias site. The latency is going to be too high over HDMI now that I remember...

Khyber GT · Apr 17, 2015

you have to enabled 3dtv play frame packing in the driver. it's going to be ugly...you're forewarned... 720p frame packing 3d isn't pretty. you can only do 720p framepacked because of hdmi limitations.

Imrus76 · Apr 17, 2015

Thx guys I will try all of it

Yololo69 · Apr 17, 2015

I played with my Samsung TV in 3D recently, the only settings I had to do is selecting 3D SBS in game in graphic option and all was good. The tv was set on 3D mode SBS too and also on Gaming mode, and the picture was perfect, even if it's half SBS. No need to the NVidia 3DTV play of NVidia or touch any other settings on NVC panel. This game manage SBS and it's something rare, and TV accept this settings as HDMI entry.

Gilmour · Apr 17, 2015

make sure your tv uses hdmi 2.0 and not the old type or it won't work well.

Yololo69 · Apr 17, 2015

Gilmour said:
make sure your tv uses hdmi 2.0 and not the old type or it won't work well.

The old standard HDMI is enough, the game send an usual 1920x1080 image with 60Hz to the TV. That's the exact same framerate and resolution if you play using 2D or 3D half SBS, nothing special for the latter. In both cases, one image, 1920x1080x60. In fact that's my experience with my GTX 970 and Samsung TV.

Khyber GT · Apr 18, 2015

Gilmour said:
make sure your tv uses hdmi 2.0 and not the old type or it won't work well.

doesn't matter if it's an older 3dtv or a new one with 2.0...enabling nvidia 3dtv play is still 720p frame packed.

Beavis Tingleball · Apr 18, 2015

if all else fails, try to find a cheap (ebay/amazon) Nvidia 3Dvision kit and use nvidia software. I once had a 3Dvision setup and it was awesome and VERY easy to set up/use.

Khyber GT · Apr 18, 2015

Beavis Tingleball said:
if all else fails, try to find a cheap (ebay/amazon) Nvidia 3Dvision kit and use nvidia software. I once had a 3Dvision setup and it was awesome and VERY easy to set up/use.

what? he's using tv not a nvidia 3d enabled monitor and he's already using nvidia's driver to enable 3dtv play for tvs and using the glasses that are to be used for the tv

Yololo69 · Apr 18, 2015

You don't have to use 3D TVPlay from NVidia at all. Game exit SBS 3D and just pressing the 3D button of your TV remote will do it. Why you would like to add extra layers between a game managing already 3D SBS and the TV? it's useful only for game without a SBS choice in graphic settings, and with ED and any TV accepting 3D SBS it work out of the box.

Beavis Tingleball · Apr 19, 2015

no, i mean to use the 3D tv ONLY as a 3D monitor..the nvidia 3D vision is just too user friendly..I also said "If all else fails"..

Imrus76 · Apr 19, 2015

To see clear, I have an LG 3D TV, I use in Elite Dangerous options 3D SBS, then switch the TVs 3D mode on.

But it seems so it cannot be setup correctly, part of the screen is sharp, other part is blurry.
I really don't understand why is it so complicated.
Why isn't it simple as to turn in options 3D SBS on, then turn on the TV the 3D mode and voila. Other 3D programs working this way, only Elite Dangerous is so difficult/unable to work properly in 3D.

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seanwasere · Apr 19, 2015

I did 3D on my LG, i set my in game resolution to 1280x720 and my nvidia 3dVision driver picked it up right away, and sent it down to the LG TV and the LG TV picked it up right away,
but the problem is that only the cockpit and near objects appear 3D anyway since the shear vastness of the universe is so big that the tiny distance between your 2 eyes is not enough to distinguish distance at such large scales.
you would need your 2 eyes spread light years apart for that.
So, my conclusion was, 3D on the TV is no good, get a DK2 instead.

Yololo69 · Apr 19, 2015

Imrus76 said:
To see clear, I have an LG 3D TV, I use in Elite Dangerous options 3D SBS, then switch the TVs 3D mode on.

But it seems so it cannot be setup correctly, part of the screen is sharp, other part is blurry.
I really don't understand why is it so complicated.
Why isn't it simple as to turn in options 3D SBS on, then turn on the TV the 3D mode and voila. Other 3D programs working this way, only Elite Dangerous is so difficult/unable to work properly in 3D. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Is it that simple, and I'm pretty sure the problem you describe don't come from ED, or we will all see it when displaying ED using display 3D SBS in game and a 2D monitor (or a 3D TV set in 2D mode)... So now you need to understand why you have one party blurry and one sharp. So which part is blurry and which part is not? I mean, does your screen is cut in two blurry/sharp horizontally at the middle, vertically, etc.? Did you touch the 3D settings like 3D separation, 3D focal distance, etc?

@seanwasere:
Not sure to understand why you have to set the game to 1280x720? I never had LG 3D TV so perhaps it don't do full HD 3D? I keep the game as 1920x1080*60Hz, the game is set SBS 3D so generate an half SBS image of 960x2*1080 (left and right together) and the TV display it fine (and I don't have any 3D vision NVidia stuffs installed with my GTX 970)...

seanwasere · Apr 19, 2015

whatever, set it to 1920x1080 if you want,
you get a better hz at 1280x720 and you don't need to put the game into SBS either.
The nvidia 3d play driver does it all for you, so easy.
Like i said i my other comment, i don't bother with it, for the reasons i already wrote.
It just doesn't compare to the DK2. Sorry if that offends

Frank · Apr 19, 2015

I've got an LG 3D telly and I had no hassles using the 3d SBS mode. I don't know if something has changed recently to muck this up. You should be able to tell if the 3D SBS is working okay from Frontier's end by looking at the two vertical squished images.

To check if it's the LG that's messing up you could try the video below. It uses the same technique to display 3D as Elite does. I just viewed it on my telly just now and it looks fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgD5_7u2NvQ

I didn't embed it because it only works with the video on fullscreen.

Yololo69 · Apr 20, 2015

seanwasere said:
whatever, set it to 1920x1080 if you want,
you get a better hz at 1280x720 and you don't need to put the game into SBS either.
The nvidia 3d play driver does it all for you, so easy.
Like i said i my other comment, i don't bother with it, for the reasons i already wrote.
It just doesn't compare to the DK2. Sorry if that offends

No offends at all for my side, sorry if you think I was (barrier language)

I don't know LG 3D TV so I try to learn, I like to learn, so that's why I was asking.

When a game compute itself the 3D SBS image the quality and speed is always better than the same done by NVidia 3D Vision. When it's done by NVidia drivers it have to get the 2D picture received by the game, consider this is the left eye (default view) and create "artificially" the other right side with standard eyes separation, using data send by the game for the left eye, focus, etc. So the result is not exactly what was expected by Devs, and management is longer. The game doing it itself have exactly what Devs wanted as 3D, good eyes separation and position, focus etc. and real left and right eye position directly computed in game. As game exit 3D SBS in one 1920x10180 picture it can have same Hz than NVidia 3D vision at 1280x720. 3D SBS in game display 1920x1080x60 pictures, so 960x1080 per eye and it's between same and better quality than 1280x720 per eye for NVidia 3D Vison. Complex to explain and I realize I'm not clear (with my bad English) but believe me (I'm an developer and created games for years)