i didn't mean that. i reread my response and find that interpretation is a bit far fetched. op was suggesting frontier to make a significant investment in porting to linux. i voiced my opinion against that, just like i would voice it agains revamping engineers yet *again*, or further developing passenger missions (which i have not made a single one because they are just regular hauling missions in disguise). this is just about my (subjective and personal) priorities for this game, not about os wars. this has nothing to do with telling people what to use.
Port this game to Linux please.
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i didn't mean that. i reread my response and find that interpretation is a bit far fetched. op was suggesting frontier to make a significant investment in porting to linux. i voiced my opinion against that, just like i would voice it agains revamping engineers yet *again*, or further developing passenger missions (which i have not made a single one because they are just regular hauling missions in disguise). this is just about my (subjective and personal) priorities for this game, not about os wars. this has nothing to do with telling people what to use.
I've had too much fiber, and that's why I'm stuck on the loo. At least I have this forum to occupy my time.
#1: Agreed.
#2: Also agreed. The biggest defense to running a Windows 10 OS is to not be stupid.
However, that does pretty much remove 50% of the world's population from being viable users then...
Just sayin'.
You know what fixes that?
MOAR FIBER!!!!
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...An E-book right ? right ? [haha]
Something for Frontier to think about, having a Linux version will produce more users when it gets released.
If they think about it, they could ask the question themselves in the forums and run a poll. Everyone who uses the forums could then vote for it.
With the potential for windows 10 to become a pay as you use service in the near future, alot of home users will drop windows rather than pay for it monthly.
I'm looking to leave windows, but with the only method I have to play it on being Windows, I can't.
Would Frontier please consider it.
If they think about it, they could ask the question themselves in the forums and run a poll. Everyone who uses the forums could then vote for it.
With the potential for windows 10 to become a pay as you use service in the near future, alot of home users will drop windows rather than pay for it monthly.
I'm looking to leave windows, but with the only method I have to play it on being Windows, I can't.
Would Frontier please consider it.
I've said this before, but another option is for Frontier to take the extra steps to make ED run using Wine. This might be less work than creating an entirely separate Linux port, and it would allow Mac owners to continue playing the game they already own.
I sometimes play an older version of MS Flight Simulator using Wine in Linux, and it actually performs better on the same hardware than playing it in native Windows!
Speaking of Mac, here I am right now typing this on my Mac, using LINUX, because even MacOS has gone to crap in recent years IMO (ever since Jonny Ive got his hands on it).
I sometimes play an older version of MS Flight Simulator using Wine in Linux, and it actually performs better on the same hardware than playing it in native Windows!
Speaking of Mac, here I am right now typing this on my Mac, using LINUX, because even MacOS has gone to crap in recent years IMO (ever since Jonny Ive got his hands on it).
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From a future competitor game, Rebel Galaxy Outlaw (https://rebel-galaxy.com/faqs.html):
Q: Mac?
A: Nuh uh. Sorry, just numbers. And who knows what's happening with OpenGL there.
Q: LINUX?
A: See previous answer and divide those numbers by a lot.
Q: Mac?
A: Nuh uh. Sorry, just numbers. And who knows what's happening with OpenGL there.
Q: LINUX?
A: See previous answer and divide those numbers by a lot.
Exactly what i was thinking, i would not pay every month..who knows after a few months we would have to pay double and then double the fee again after one year...seen that too many times.
The only thing for me to to i think would be a PS4, where i can play my other game that's using windows now also.
My excitable disposition would like to point out this is probably the same reason bugs are being ignored for months at a time - ain't no money to be made in fixing bugs (except that there is, because I might be buying more cosmetics and COVAS voices if not for the bugs).
How come liberals make some of the best capitalists? This game should not only be ported to Linux, but it should be released as open source! Just sayin...
Told you I was excitable
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No. I buy books in paperback.
And I try to buy from Waterstone's first before heading to Amazon.
Yeah, the biggest issue with porting to Linux is the risk vs. reward.
Frontier has the game ported to Mac, but that support is going away soon, which means they would need a whole new group of devs familiar with Linux to make it happen.
So, from a logistical standpoint, if they could get say...a 10% increase in player base, assuming the current player base is 450,000 players (based on sales to date) then they're going to gain 45,000 more players, who will spend a flat rate of $60 (we're being generous and assuming each player will want to have full access to planetary landings, engineers, etc) which would net them $2.7M, out of which they will need a team of about 5 developers with a solid understanding of Linux, solid enough to be able to port the game over into native Linux while still keeping all of the key software proprietary (a big issue that stops a lot of companies from creating things for Linux - it's extremely easy to reverse engineer without some skilled developers to secure it, and even then it can be a crapshoot...). So, figure they're going to be working at the tune of around $90k a year (any developer worth their salt should make at least $60k, experienced should be $80k plus).
That means $450k per year. So that $2.7M will ensure Frontier will be able to keep them employed for about 6 years tops, barring any pay raises.
That's a best case scenario. However, realistically, the company is going to have to go by actual statistics which say that the Linux player base would only constitute 2%.
That drops the payday down to only an additional 9,000 players. At $60 per, that's only $540k. Which would employ the team needed for the project, for a year.
Now, beyond that year, any time something gets updated or modified so that the code is altered and has to be updated with the Linux version as well, they'd have to call somebody in to do so or...they're going to be spending an additional $450k per year for no profit.
So, bottom line is, an increase in player base has to be *substantial* and sustainable in order for it to be a wise move on the part of a company.
Frontier just couldn't take a risk like that without some serious proof that there was a significant potential player base, that has not purchased the game before (or would be happy to purchase an entirely new version of the game to run strictly on Linux) and would intend to do so after a release of the game in the new OS format.
So, as you can see, even a petition of 10,000 signatures stating such, wouldn't be much draw at all for the company to invest in, given the high risk of ultimate loss. I guess that an increase in player base would have to be somewhere around 50,000 new players to really get the company's attention high enough to say, "We should invest in doing X idea to pull in this untapped player base."
Fly safe CMDRs. o7
I could see that happening, if they would do more advertising together w steam who has a solid linux base.
So this petition should be on both forums to be honest & fair 50,000 is not that much.
And the company would have new experiences and could develop more games in the future, so there's no telling where this adventure would go, right?
So this petition should be on both forums to be honest & fair 50,000 is not that much.
And the company would have new experiences and could develop more games in the future, so there's no telling where this adventure would go, right?
Who has a solid Linux base? It's a great OS for work, but I feel 0.028% of all games were ported to it. I wanna' try many things, so my gaming pc will always have windows. Currently Windows 7, as whenever I read a thread like this, I realize that I don't wanna' throw the OS I know in and out for a streamlined one with so many complaints and issues.
During the decades I always regretted changing to a new Win before it's even newer version was released.
What we really need is for a huge Game Industry Consortium to form around Linux for Gamers and support it. Didn't Valve try that a bit recently? And just being practical, how did that turn out?
Absent that. Fuggitaboudit. Won't ever happen.
Linux is great but IP protected and paid-for software will always top it. I use OSS often. I have moved to Libre Office at home, or Google Docs. But at work we tested Linux desktops and there was really no savings due to support and software quality/need. It's just a fact.
So promote major gaming companies to band together and get behind a super-progressive tech Linux gaming variant and maybe we will see it in 20 years.
Good luck with that. I'll support the Patreon with $1 but my bandwidth is already too full to dive in.
Absent that. Fuggitaboudit. Won't ever happen.
Linux is great but IP protected and paid-for software will always top it. I use OSS often. I have moved to Libre Office at home, or Google Docs. But at work we tested Linux desktops and there was really no savings due to support and software quality/need. It's just a fact.
So promote major gaming companies to band together and get behind a super-progressive tech Linux gaming variant and maybe we will see it in 20 years.
Good luck with that. I'll support the Patreon with $1 but my bandwidth is already too full to dive in.
Hello Frontier. I would like to say that the only reason I boot microsofts operating system is to play Elite Dangerous. I hope you would consider porting Elite Dangerous for Linux because Elite Dangerous would actually perform better on it's platform than windows.
I dont have the problems you have on windows as I manually control my updates.
However I hate windows almost as much as you do and I am all for linux support for the game.