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A return is difficult to envisage. It would be a purgatory for a long time for the UK in this kind of European community
I doubt that there will be another referendum.
Well. The Fact is that they get more and more Majority there.
The Original Referendum is not an Legal Binding One either.
So its not Impossible for them to make another Referendum given that large amounts of the Populace Demand it.
Currently it might also be wise to go that way.
The UK has started to Break Apart before they have even Passed the actual Leave Request to the EU.
Many Expected things to go horrible. But the current Situation has really Surpassed even the worst Expectations.
"don't like the vote so we'll just run it again until you vote how we want you to vote".
Yes it would be a stab in the heart of the democracy
That's an UK intern thing. The EU has no influence if there will be a second referendum or not. And since Cameron stepped down ...
If the UK would make a retreat at this stage the EU would sack all their special rights.
But yeah, the Brexit is not yet through. The other major EU powers have not yet said what they plan.
They cant.
If UK does not Request to Leave. The EU cannot Sack anything.
The Referendum is not Legally Binding. So UK does not actually Initiate a Leave yet.
Thats what you just did.
Long ago UK also Voted and Decided to Stay in the EU.
But that was instantly contested and now you got a Vote to Leave.
But alot of People have changed their Mind after it came to Pass.
They have now seen a glimpse of their Country Breaking Apart and many have Requested to Change their Vote.
There is no Time Limit on this Stuff.
If the Populace demands to invalidate their own Vote. There is no Reason for the Government to Deny that.
That might have been funny if it had been funny
But the ones who wanted the country out of the EU are now gloating and shouting "no backsies". They aren't making any friends or healing any wounds in the UK either.
You are right. But I can imagine the ambience ... After the "Brexit", the founding members of the EU (and not of the Elite
) want the UK begins its release "as quickly as possible"
The EEC you mean, that's not the EU.
You mean the rich elite invalidate the vote of the poor.
It's actually incredible how fast this petition is gaining numbers, but the problem is that it is calling for retrospective legislation (changed after the fact) .. and the other thing was it was set up on 24 May 2016 and didn't gain any traction until after the vote ..
It will be discussed in parliament, without a doubt .. but the chances of it triggering another referendum will be practically zero - at this point it looks very much like a "sour grapes" vote.
If in the very unlikely event it did trigger a second referendum, where does it end ? .. another tight vote, so we have to go again? .. until one side gets a bigger majority? ..
Also just to add, this petition also calls for a another referendum if the turn out is less than a 75% - we have not had a turn out above that since 1992 .. it could go on forever.
It won't be ignored, but it won't be acted upon.
It will be discussed in parliament, without a doubt .. but the chances of it triggering another referendum will be practically zero - at this point it looks very much like a "sour grapes" vote.
If in the very unlikely event it did trigger a second referendum, where does it end ? .. another tight vote, so we have to go again? .. until one side gets a bigger majority? ..
Also just to add, this petition also calls for a another referendum if the turn out is less than a 75% - we have not had a turn out above that since 1992 .. it could go on forever.
It won't be ignored, but it won't be acted upon.
Perhaps just London ?
That's a problem of your government, not a problem of the EU. ^^
I posted this in the other thread, but it's on the same subject .. saying that we already had a referendum on the EU is factually incorrect.
The common Market, and the EU are not the same thing.
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If that happened then the vote would have been 53.4%/46.6% in favor of leaving the EU (based on how England actually voted)
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Leaving the EU means leaving the common market. And even if you get like the EFTA countries it will take at least a decade to negotiate it.
Within 2 hours of the result, 3 leave promises were broken.
1: £350 million will not be going to the NHS. (Farage) Boris has not commented.
2: Migration will be reduced. All parties, have stated that is is almost an impossible task, if you want the trade links.
3: Article 50 would be immediately implemented. Now they want to wait.
All of the happen by 8am on the 24th. So those who voted on the strength of these promises, now realise, that they have been lied to.
The result of the referendum, is not enshrined in law. The 60% majority out of 75% of the population, is a factor, but still a grey area. At the same time, we can't just keep having vote after vote, until; as stated above, we get the result, we want. (Who are the we, for a start?) Also: This would mean another campaign, with all that entails; from more lies, threats and blackmail. The whole thing, should never had happened and Dave who caused it in the first place; has cut and run.
This is a sad time for democracy. It should be a criminal offence for politicians, candidates and their aids etc, to lie. They should be held to account and forced to face justice, for at least, misappropriation and misrepresentation. The whole of the western world is run by this system and yet, it is manipulated by liars and thieves.
1: £350 million will not be going to the NHS. (Farage) Boris has not commented.
2: Migration will be reduced. All parties, have stated that is is almost an impossible task, if you want the trade links.
3: Article 50 would be immediately implemented. Now they want to wait.
All of the happen by 8am on the 24th. So those who voted on the strength of these promises, now realise, that they have been lied to.
The result of the referendum, is not enshrined in law. The 60% majority out of 75% of the population, is a factor, but still a grey area. At the same time, we can't just keep having vote after vote, until; as stated above, we get the result, we want. (Who are the we, for a start?) Also: This would mean another campaign, with all that entails; from more lies, threats and blackmail. The whole thing, should never had happened and Dave who caused it in the first place; has cut and run.
This is a sad time for democracy. It should be a criminal offence for politicians, candidates and their aids etc, to lie. They should be held to account and forced to face justice, for at least, misappropriation and misrepresentation. The whole of the western world is run by this system and yet, it is manipulated by liars and thieves.
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