Powerplay Powerplay - left of political spectrum option

Ziljan

Ziljan
Saool said:
The Federation is just Space America and therefore ranges from Right to Far Right.

The Empire is a 3000 years out of date mess
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Come to the left coast. Sure we have our rural militia nut jobs, but mostly it's a bunch of closet socialists with yoga mats ;) Pranav Antal would do well here. :)

Agree about the Stone Age Imperials. Surprised their capital ships arent in the shape of golden ziggurats being pulled by an army of peons in sidewinders.
 
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the100thmonkey

the100thmonkey
Roybe said:
Let us not forget that anarchy is the extreme of leftist ideology.
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If only Delaine were an anarchist then!

I recall reading something to the effect of "you're only free if you can stop others enslaving you," in a Delaine profile somewhere. It makes him sound more like one of Nietzche's Dionysian tyrants than an anarchist in that sense.
 

Ziljan

Ziljan
Roybe said:
Let us not forget that anarchy is the extreme of leftist ideology.
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Um maybe in the UK. In the U.S., anarchy is extreme version right wing ideology. They believe in weak government with security being enforced by an angry heavily armed mob. Basically government by the pleb with the biggest stick. Mad Max if you will.

In fact in the most conservative areas of my state, people refuse to pay any local taxes to the point where there are no drivable roads or municipal plumbing. It looks like a scene from Barter Town. And when grass fires hit, anyone who didn't pay for a private fire fighter gets the pleasure of watching their house burn down, legally. With no intervention unless it threatens someone who paid their fire bill. Letting a wild fire dictate economic justice is the epitome of anarchy.
 
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Saool

Saool
I tend to subscribe to the idea of Anarchy being like those portrayed in such book series as 'The Fall Revolution' (The Star Fraction) by Ken Macleod and the Culture in Iain Bank's novels.

Indeed, Macleod's ideas in 'The Star Fraction' where the basis for our Alliance in EvE of the same, headed up by my good mate who was Jade Constantine.
 

CMDR_Vyse

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Apos said:
But ages of propaganda against the left has really made the US a bit...unreliable on deciding what is left and right though. Although that has been slowly getting remedied within the latest generations.

Since both parties promote absolute economic liberty, they are both right wing in heart. And as long as the democratic party has economic liberty above social liberty, it will remain so.

After all, Mahon would be called a commie in the US. [haha]
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No he wouldn't. In American politics, he would be considered Libertarian.
 

Apos

Apos
CMDR_Vyse said:
No he wouldn't. In American politics, he would be considered Libertarian.
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In the US, libertarian mostly refer to some SJWs who are worse bigots than what they are claiming to fight against.

Mahon has social libertarianism as his priority. And he seems like a cultured enough guy to not belong to the aforementioned group. Sure, in the grand scheme of things, he is indeed a libertarian. But the US always messes up the definitions when it comes to their own political landscape.

Thus he would be considered a socialist. In the US that's equal to a commie until very recently with a specific running individual not afraid to use the term and actually garnering support due to having the guts to do it.

Do you think "Republican" actually refers to what the current political entity in the US represents?
 
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CMDR_Vyse

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Apos said:
In the US, libertarian mostly refer to some SJWs who are worse bigots than what they are claiming to fight against.

Mahon has social libertarianism as his priority.

Thus he would be considered a socialist. In the US that's equal to a commie until very recently with a specific running individual not afraid to use the term and actually garnering support due to having the guts to do it.
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No, not quite. Libertarians encompass a pretty wide spectrum in the U.S. and form a group not really left or right in the traditional sense. Libertarians are against both centralized regulation and control of business as well as social regulation, I.E. they're against the U.S. drug policy as an example. Looking at Mahon's statements, they're very similar in scope with the statements of certain prominent libertarians.

There's certainly a wing of the Libertarians who are Ayn Rand objectivists but those tend to be tied with corporate power and thus would be more in line with Zachary Hudson. But Libertarianism is pretty broad here in America.
 

DNA-Decay

DNA-Decay
Empire Ships:
Ziljan said:
Golden ziggurats being pulled by an army of peons in sidewinders.
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This is now going to be the second thing from you that I quote all the time.

The current one is: "The Clipper - silly and effete looking, a 1970's spaceship with Tron trimmings."


Also APOS should definitely be Mahon's speechwriter.
Except for the occasional noisy blast from Vectron.

Actually there's a couple of folks missing from this thread.
Are Jane and the other commies leaving it to Monkey Man to wave the flag?
 
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the100thmonkey

the100thmonkey
DNA-Decay said:
Are Jane and the other commies leaving it to Monkey Man to wave the flag?
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I only saw this thread because it popped up as the latest post in Dangerous Discussion viewed from the Elite: Dangerous parent forum. I imagine that no one else has seen it - we don't come down 'ere very often except to gather intel on what our enemies are doing ;)
 

Woodsmoke

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There are no socialists in elite as the rest of the political spectrum has wiped them out... all the do good people walked over in a push for power!
 
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