General / Off-Topic Prince Harry says Fortnite should be banned!
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yeah you're making the same mistake there than most parents of kids with drugs problems: to believe the mantra that the problem is the substance. heroin, fortnite ... were never the problem. education is. lack of it is precisely what makes fortnite and heroin roughly as dangerous as a plastic spoon.
addiction is a serious issue, and there is serious research and debate going on. there is no need to roll the ball for yet another stupid celebrity acting out. as i said ... more education, and we would have far less issues with fortnite, heroin and spoons. and moroon celebrities like this wouldn't make it even to the headlines, because educated people wouldn't give a damn, there would be no 'social networks' eager to cheer and shout about any triviality you throw at them.
Well, if it has got to the point where I realise I am facing off against a person willing to start venting irrelevantly about the taxes they pay, or having to debate the lunacy of Brexit, then I certainly will stop right there. Yes, Morbad, your values certainly are alien to me, I'm glad to say. I will take it as a given that it is entirely hopeless to even dream of coming to an understanding with individuals such as yourself. Wonderful spelling you employ by the way, as clear as your reasoning. I guess your wife must be the educated one, perhaps you should let her write your posts, but then I daresay she seldom ever gets a word in edgewise, she's married to such a genius.
"I would rather watch a few of my weaker friends die and see hundreds of the dollars a year I'm extorted out of in taxes go to handling the addiction fallout, than be told what I can or cannot do..." Wonderful, noble words. They tell me everything I need to know about you.
"I would rather watch a few of my weaker friends die and see hundreds of the dollars a year I'm extorted out of in taxes go to handling the addiction fallout, than be told what I can or cannot do..." Wonderful, noble words. They tell me everything I need to know about you.
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"Any parents letting their children play Fortnite (or many similar types of games) without massive checks and balances in place are for all intents and purposes not doing their jobs" was pointing out the educational aspect of the formula. I agree that education is important, and certainly of a higher order than outright governmental bans which I don't agree with. Parental bans are great, there's already too much government.
Ban Prince Harry! Throw his tea in the harbor, I say.
Regarding Fortnite, parents are responsible for their kids full stop. Government ain't gonna do any good banning it.
Regarding Fortnite, parents are responsible for their kids full stop. Government ain't gonna do any good banning it.
Good to see you have lost none of your dry wit CMDR, thanks for giving me a laugh, (once I had googled and found out what the hell that was.) For the record, I have at no point seriously suggested "banning" Fortnite. For me the Prince's published comment simply made me think, and I thought it might be interesting in that it might engender debate, give folks a chance to use their minds. Kinda sad that as is often the case around here it seems to go in the direction of bitter factionalism and the dragging in of irrelevant topics, attacking the man and not the argument.
WOW People actually still play that nonsense?
What nonsense are we referring to? Hereditary Monarchies or Video games?
I don't care for what this Harry guy says.
Jim Henderman said that cheese is bad for you.
Tracy McDougal said that mountains are big.
I said that I don't care for what this Harry guy says.
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what argument exactly? besides describing fortnite in a way that applies the same to facebook or tv shows, did he present some facts? apart from saying 'this shouldn't be legal'?
ok, you're maybe right, but maybe you could not have illustrated the debate proposal with a clickbait name?
we have been actually talking about this just last week, someone linked this video about the lenghts fortnite goes to foster that addiction. interesting:
... and his big brother joins the spooks. LOL
Thanks for the concession. I certainly didn't intend to come across as either clickbaity or provocative, I thought the article I linked to in my OP presented some things worthy of discussion, that's all really.
We're all gamers here right? (Although I probably deserve the label less than most.) I expected disagreement with my less than positive view of Fortnite, I just thought there might be more focus on the issue(s) raised by Harry guy's comments and less ad hominem. Ah well, live and learn.
I could only watch about 5 minutes of the video you posted I'm afraid. I found it rather tiresome and annoying. If you are in the mood to summarize the central message I'd be happy to read. 07 CMDR
It's not Fortnite that's the problem. It's Dungeons and Dragons. It corrupts the youth and will make them run around in robes and cast spells on people. Oh, wait... I'm 50 years too late. Oh, I know, it's listening to the devil's music, the one's they played in the 19th century with violins. It totally ruined the minds of people. Or... maybe it's the black and white TV? Or color TV? Or books? Or rock music? Or ...
I think it's a case by case thing. Not all kids do well with games, at all, and some will do just fine and grow up to young responsible persons. My kids grew up on games, and one is working as a developer at JPL (space rockets, and things like that), another works with AI, also relating to space and rockets, and the third is becoming a game artist and narrative creator, while the youngest two are still working on finding their goals. Meanwhile, I know a family where the kids weren't allowed to play any games at all, and they grew up doing amazing things as well. It all depends on family, culture, situation, etc. One mold doesn't fit all shapes.
With that said, gambling addiction is real, and making games into a gambling facilitation might be a social issue, just like casinos and horse races... or not...
I think it's a case by case thing. Not all kids do well with games, at all, and some will do just fine and grow up to young responsible persons. My kids grew up on games, and one is working as a developer at JPL (space rockets, and things like that), another works with AI, also relating to space and rockets, and the third is becoming a game artist and narrative creator, while the youngest two are still working on finding their goals. Meanwhile, I know a family where the kids weren't allowed to play any games at all, and they grew up doing amazing things as well. It all depends on family, culture, situation, etc. One mold doesn't fit all shapes.
With that said, gambling addiction is real, and making games into a gambling facilitation might be a social issue, just like casinos and horse races... or not...
And humanity's addiction to memedia. (meme-media)
he analyzes some tactics in detail, puts them in context and points out a likely new trend in that sort of addictive games, specifically about fortnite. for sure worth a watch if you're interested in the topic. it does have a few 'entertainment' moments you can skip but they're not that many, and it's a lot of content for me to transcribe for you.
my point is that if more people understood what's being explained on that video that game, or any similar, wouldn't be that much of a problem. the only sensible option is to educate people to see the trap so they don't walk in in the first place.
this is something that can self-regulate if (and only if) there is pressure on both sides. the pressure of business opportunity you can take for granted. we need consumer conscience to put limits to it. again, education. banning it would not solve any problem but would just create some more.
Bob Lighthouse
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Potentially good thread, too bad the virtue signalling will likely override any value.
