The same would apply to running low on probes, Choices & Consequences etc.
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The same would apply to running low on probes, Choices & Consequences etc.
Radicals everywhere... Game's aren't supposed to be fun, are they?
Tbf, fun is subjective. That's why "games" like Train / Farming / Bus / Warehouse Simulator sell so well.
Thankfully, FDev understand that infinite probes satisfies the wants of the vast majority of Elite players.
Valid point. Also... Beyond is targeted towards owners of Horizons (free upgrade). Or, did I miss-hear what was said at FDExpo 2017 at: https://youtu.be/VH7AiMb90iU?t=1725
EDIT: Who, in their right mind would even play ED at this date without Horizons? Lets "pretend" that those players do not exist.... so we can move forward with the discussion about this?
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Elite has always been a space SIM with arcade aspects, without realism the game loses it's integrity, if this wasn't true FD wouldn't have bothered to make a 1-1 scale galaxy based on scientific principles that are accurate enough to predict the existence of Trappist1. This is overkill for a mere arcade game.
I feel like this change was made based on people complaining about something they didn't yet have all the info on. A lot of people seemed to have the idea that probing a planet would be equivalent to the current DSS scan and therefore you'd need thousands of them to make equivalent money and get your name on systems. In fact, we'll only need to use probes in cases where the ADS informs us there's something interesting there, or we particularly want to get first surveyed credit.
You're so right. Where's the bog in my Asp, btw? Amazingly I don't seem to have ever visited it. I must, for realism's sake.
Elite's galaxy is simulated, based on real science, true.
But apart from that a lot of the other things in ED are fantasy - frame shift drive for example. Seriously, ED is way more arcade than sim. Y'know years ago in here I was more like your good self, battling against the flight model and why it wasn't truly Newtonian flight and all the rest, not really grokking that ED was more arcade than sim. I've gotten a lot better since those days
The Beyond season is for improving existing gameplay. Asking for improvements to basegame mechanics (exploration, mining) to be locked behind a paywall is silly.
Incorrect.
Synthesis is available to Horizons owners only.
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Which part?
The misunderstanding or the non-necessity of probing every planet?
Elite's galaxy is simulated, based on real science, true.
But apart from that a lot of the other things in ED are fantasy - frame shift drive for example. Seriously, ED is way more arcade than sim. Y'know years ago in here I was more like your good self, battling against the flight model and why it wasn't truly Newtonian flight and all the rest, not really grokking that ED was more arcade than sim. I've gotten a lot better since those days
I would use the term Sci-fi and not fantasy. The FSD is actually based on a theoretical drive called Alcubierre drive.
Fantasy, to me, are things like superman, spiderman etc.
I would use the term Sci-fi and not fantasy. The FSD is actually based on a theoretical drive called Alcubierre drive.
Fantasy, to me, are things like superman, spiderman etc.
For me, until they actually make a working Alcubierre drive, it's all fantasy - I see what you mean though and consider me fully chastised. Still think it's a valid use of the word
Elite's galaxy is simulated, based on real science, true.
But apart from that a lot of the other things in ED are fantasy - frame shift drive for example. Seriously, ED is way more arcade than sim. Y'know years ago in here I was more like your good self, battling against the flight model and why it wasn't truly Newtonian flight and all the rest, not really grokking that ED was more arcade than sim. I've gotten a lot better since those days
Agreed and nice Heinlien reference to boot!
True... but, in that video, they clearly said that it will be free for Elite Dangerous Horizons players.
This, to me, indicate that basegame players, they can do 2 things; upgrade to Horizons (get Beyond for free), or pay for a DLC.
That seems wrong. I just fired up Elite (non-Horizons) to check, and I had access to synthesis.
A quick web search also pulls up stuff like this (two years ago) PSA: All Synthesis materials are now mineable without Horizons
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Combat is generally undertaken within reasonable travel distance to a station, for restocking. Exploration is not - Beagle Point is 65k LY away from Sol. I'm surprised that you don't already know this.
Thankfully, FDev understands the game and what the overwhelming majority of players want from it.
If players want to self-restrict themselves from sending probes to planets for enjoyment/immersion reasons, via mining/prospecting for materials, they can happily do so. Unlimited probes doesn't prevent that (except for the very minor number of people who cannot use their imagination for immersion, of course).
I just wish they made some noise or recoil when they launch. For the speed they leave the ship (relative to normal projectiles, despite their slow planetary approach), they should make some sort of indication of their launch.
Most of the synthesis options are, in practice, locked behind planetary landings since the materials only appear on surfaces, but yeah, you can do some basic synthesis with mats that spawn in rings and asteroid clusters.
Well less grind is good. Also it's the year 3304.
Bingo
Although synthesis was an option assuming an explorer was fitted for mining:
FDev's stated goal when the exploration changes were first announced a couple of months back was that explorers wouldn't need to return to the bubble. They're upholding that statement
This was already discussed earlier in the thread, but we've now reached the point of whiners repeating the same flawed arguments.
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