∞ probes?

[Nagual]

Yes there is. By a considerable margin.

The total of all posters in the forums and subReddit make a tiny fraction of the total player base, which may be Oss123's point.

So... there's nobody? Seems awfully noisy.

An empty can rattles the most!

 

[NeilF]

Frontier would have to be a special kind of stupid to require mats for a new feature, but not implement support for it where required. There's nothing stopping Frontier from adding the required support for non-Horizons users. If that's even required. I thought that had been debunked a long time ago and materials have been available for all users from planetary rings.

One thing I keep on thinking about with regards to this topic is the fact that Frontier have made a huge effort in improving the lighting system and the mining system. I think there was a reason the devs demonstrated their new lighting system in a planetary ring in the first livestream.

Something I've thought Frontier should have added a long time ago was a reason for explorers to visit planetary rings (or asteroid fields). In the current game there is no reason for explorers to do so. Finite probes requiring materials from planetary rings or asteroids fields could be that reason.

The only question is the level of effort required to maintain the supply of probes. Infinite probes require no effort, but then there is zero reason for explorers to go to planetary rings. I'm sure there must be some middle ground between "too much" effort to gather materials, and the "zero" effort of infinite probes.

I've previously stated I think SRV refuel/rearm levels of effort would be a good starting point. I think I need to rearm my SRV about once every 1-2hrs while doing concentrated prospecting while exploring. I have on hand enough materials to rearm 150 times without needing more materials.

Do people really have such a low tolerance to material gathering and synthesis that synthesising a new batch of probes every 1-2hrs and to be able to repeat that 150 times before *having* to mine is "too much". I would expect that people would typically do a few reloads before mining, so in practice 3-6hrs between mining for a few minutes to top off the materials storage. Edit: In any case the beta test is where this amount of effort could be balanced.

I think it would be a great thing to add more gameplay and depth to the game, and give explorers a reason to visit more of the beautiful game environments Frontier have made such a large investment in developing.

I'd be all up for material gathering to synthesize probes, except surely that then means you'd need an SRV? Which I see as a significant problem.

Hence why I suspect a number of us have fallen on a mechanics such as "fuel scooping" at particular planetary rings types or particular gas giant types as the mechanic to quickly replenish probes. ie: Every explorer has a fuel scoop surely?

I dunno, I just want a reason to scoop gas giants to be honest.

This probes thing seems a decent enough excuse to do so.

LOL! Especially if you can wisely combine such an exercise with probing the location and any associated moons too at the same time!

 

[Oss133]

Yes there is. By a considerable margin.

The only majority is the number of players who didn't vote.

 

[Toumal]

Is it too late to demand MORE than infinity probes?

 

[akaliel]

The total of all posters in the forums and subReddit make a tiny fraction of the total player base, which may be Oss123's point.



An empty can rattles the most!

Nearly 10,000 votes on Obsidian's poll. That's a considerably large sample size as far as polling goes. Elections have been called hours before ending on exit polling with samples this size on votes that were much closer than this.

 

[Oss133]

Is it too late to demand MORE than infinity probes?

One probe it is then.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

Nearly 10,000 votes on Obsidian's poll. That's a considerably large sample size as far as polling goes. Elections have been called hours before ending on exit polling with samples this size on votes that were much closer than this.

And yet, this is not a democracy, nor development by council. Polls are pointless unless issued by those in charge, and we’re not they.

 

[akaliel]

And yet, this is not a democracy, nor development by council. Polls are pointless unless issued by those in charge, and we’re not they.

I was talking to the guy who said there is no majority.

 

[bitstorm]

I was talking to the guy who said there is no majority.

There is no majority, the poll was polling on craftable.

We are not even talking about craftable, what's being thrown around is auto-generating probes based on some scooping mechanism.

Stigbob's claim was NeilF's suggestions put him in a minority. (because that's how you argue a point)

 

[Nagual]

I was talking to the guy who said there is no majority.

Actually you were talking to me. All I did was point out that 10,000 is about 0.36% of players (based on Frontiers figures of 2.75 million copies sold)

 

[Ignition]

Actually you were talking to me. All I did was point out that 10,000 is about 0.36% of players (based on Frontiers figures of 2.75 million copies sold)

I don't want to derail this but 2.75 million are units sold, not people playing the game. Many have bought at least 2 copies of the game.

 

[Oss133]

Actually you were talking to me. All I did was point out that 10,000 is about 0.36% of players (based on Frontiers figures of 2.75 million copies sold)

So... who was I talking to? I thought I was talking to anyone who was listening but now I am confused.

Quick poll: Are you listening to me?

1. Yes
B. No
Twelvty. Not sure.
Infinity. TL: DR

 

[Nagual]

I don't want to derail this but 2.75 million are units sold, not people playing the game. Many have bought at least 2 copies of the game.

That's true, however only Frontier have all the statistics. I would imagine that Frontier will be thinking not only of people currently play but also of those who have stopped.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

House full of kids, parents say “Get ready, we’re going to [insert restaurant kids would not be excited to go to].”
Kids gather and take a vote, kids vote on [insert restaurant kids would be excited to go to].”
Parents go to [restaurant they said they were going to anyways].

Not that different here, just no free meals.

 

[Nagual]

So... who was I talking to? I thought I was talking to anyone who was listening but now I am confused.

Quick poll: Are you listening to me?

1. Yes
B. No
Twelvty. Not sure.
Infinity. TL: DR

The answer is 42. And you've always been confused Oss.

 

[Oss133]

I don't want to derail this but 2.75 million are units sold, not people playing the game. Many have bought at least 2 copies of the game.

So... if I have 2 accounts I can haz 2 votings?

 

[Cmdr. Jägermeister]

I don't want to derail this but 2.75 million are units sold, not people playing the game. Many have bought at least 2 copies of the game.

Even if everybody had bought 10 copies, your 10,000 would only 3.6 % which doesn´t make it sound much more valid.

 

[andrewg_oz]

I'd be all up for material gathering to synthesize probes, except surely that then means you'd need an SRV? Which I see as a significant problem.

I've lost count of the number of times it's been pointed out that materials drop from asteroids and planetary rings. No SRVs required. I might have even mentioned it in the post you quoted.

 

[Red Anders]

*muffled weeping*

 

[akaliel]

Even if everybody had bought 10 copies, your 10,000 would only 3.6 % which doesn´t make it sound much more valid.

Wow, so one thing I learned today. You guys have no idea how polling and mathematics works. How the votes of 10,000 people can be 99% accurate. Interesting.

For a population of 2.7 million and the poll sample be 9800 people, it is 99% accurate with a margin of error of 1.3%. Go ahead, spin it however you like, say that there's people with 10 accounts. That it's Star Citizen fans on OA's page trying to troll Elite. Say whatever you like. Go ahead and lie to yourself. I don't care.