Yep, its the one I voted for.
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Yep, its the one I voted for.
When you're counting sheep, do you add up the number of legs and then divide by 4?
If you want the stat's for who's posted in a thread, just click on the number, next to a thread, where it says "[x] Replies".
Read the poll again. It's literally there in black and white.
Seriously this is why polls aren't permitted on the forums, people who create them or people who vote on them (one of the two), either don't have a clue or have an agenda. The results then get twisted and misrepresented (despite the options being very clear) into something else, just to suit people's own arguments.
And this is putting aside in this case it's people voting on something they haven't even tried yet. [rolleyes]
Look, craftable means craftable, finite means finite. Craftable is a subset of finite, they are not the same.
You can have finite without craftable. The last 10-20+ pages weve literally been talking about finite non-craftable solutions for probes.
The scooping mechanism for example.
If you're conflating the two it's probably worth thinking about the reasons WHY people object to craftable and if that necessarily must apply to finite, you'll find the answer is no. Hence the discussion.
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You said "10% support finite probes", the figure for that is 73% not 10% you turnip.
(and it was craftable not finite)
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/451413-probes?p=7110493&viewfull=1#post7110493
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Never going to happen. Because that would make an internal market for materials between players.
Your interpretation is your problem you parsnip.
The thread now:
Aww, it's taking a nap.
Interpreting polls with hardly detailed choices:
They're not looking for a solution, they need you to agree to their solution. Submit to the cult of the ∞ probe deniers!
Dude, weve been discussing some decent ideas.
The trouble is folk keep jumping in a crapping on the discussion.
Indeed it is! Why, the preface to the poll is right there in black and white too - if you read and comprehend it! Here's the preface...
Then the poll options.
I mean, it takes a particular kind of special not to be able to see the 'finite' option in that poll.
This poll? It literally asks you to vote for "infinite" or "craftable".
90% have an infinite probe in the solution, 73% have a craftable probe in the solution.
A combined non-infinite and non-craftable solution is possible, and for me I think might even offer the best implementation for probes. (let's scoop gas giants!)
And is not represented in that poll.
And it's what we were talking about some odd pages back before the thread crapping.
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And when you take the preface to the poll into account - which apparently you are refusing to do - the meaning of the word "craftable" becomes perfectly clear to anyone who isn't deliberately trying to deny it or who doesn't have comprehension problems.
Yes now in hindsight you can see a mismatch between the description and the options. Did many people read that blurb, or just go with the options? I'm guessing a low percentage read that (it is a guess).
All I can really say is the options as written offer a choice between infinite and/or craftable.
You can say the options were badly written but that's what they said at the time people voted.
It is literally (as in LITERALLY) a poll between infinite and/or craftable.
But either way I'm not massively bothered, it's not me who keeps waving it around as though it's some ruling from on high, in an attempt to stop discussion.
I've always said I think the poll isn't worth much, given no-one's tried exploration yet.
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Context is important in that poll craftable means finite.
10% support for finite probes.
So Obsidian Ant's poll essentially this:
A) slow probes <-- aka one
B) slow probes and all the fast probes you want to pay for <-- aka both
C) all the fast probes you want to pay for <-- aka the other
Is it any surprise at all that given the choice of one, the other or both that the most people chose both?
That's not a choice, that's human nature!
It wasn't an immersion vs grind choice people were making in this poll! I was just a shopping experience!
A) slow probes <-- aka one
B) slow probes and all the fast probes you want to pay for <-- aka both
C) all the fast probes you want to pay for <-- aka the other
Is it any surprise at all that given the choice of one, the other or both that the most people chose both?
That's not a choice, that's human nature!
It wasn't an immersion vs grind choice people were making in this poll! I was just a shopping experience!
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