Profit Calculator

[Admiraldkong]

As the title says it, I am looking for a profit calculator to know what I get for a specific goods.
For example, if I was a reward in addition to credits and a little less CR. I want to know whether the additional goods are more worthwhile than just the pure money reward.

Oh and don't come to me with Excel & Co because I can't handle something like that.

 

[Fnord Velkor]

Here you go:





(sorry)

 

[Ashnak]

It's not as simple as setting up a spreadsheet. The value of regular trade goods depends on where, when and how much you want to sell/have in your inventory. They may be even more valuable if you find a mission to procure these items.
Then again, mission rewards often include goods that are not available to buy on the free market (like Modular Terminals). How much those aare worth depends entirely on how much other CMDRs are willing to pay for them.
As y arule of thumb, you usually won't make a loss by accepting the reward goods, but you'll have to go through the steps of realizing that profit by yourself.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

If a mission reward substitutes goods for credits, then it always substitutes them at the Galactic Average price.

For goods which are offered as mission rewards, there will always be a station buying them at above (sometimes significantly above) Galactic Average, so in a pure credits sense the answer is "yes, goods are worthwhile".

However, you've then got to consider the opportunity cost of taking those goods to the place which buys them at a high price. In general, that's probably not worth it - so usually only accept goods rewards for commodities the current station will purchase at above galactic average.

 

[finglonger]

if your looking for a quick an simple answer on what to buy and sell for max proffits then look here

Elite: Dangerous Database - EDDB

A site about systems, bodies, stations, commodities, materials and trade routes in Elite: Dangerous

eddb.io

us the single, multi hop or loop routes for much'o proffits
or for the highest proffits wait for the trade community goals

 

[Admiraldkong]

Just to make it clear I am looking for a program or a page to find the option that brings the most profit.
As an an example:

 

[Admiraldkong]

if your looking for a quick an simple answer on what to buy and sell for max proffits then look here

Elite: Dangerous Database - EDDB

A site about systems, bodies, stations, commodities, materials and trade routes in Elite: Dangerous

eddb.io

us the single, multi hop or loop routes for much'o proffits
or for the highest proffits wait for the trade community goals

Not what I am looking for because it shows the price per unit but not a total profit.
In order to determine the entire profit from it, I would have to fall back on Excel & Co.

 

[Ashnak]

4.764.798 + (33*113) = 4.768.527

Like Ian said - the monetary value of the reward goods is exactly the same as the pure money reward, if you take galactic average price.

Sorry - in this case, you'd even lose 10k from choosing the goods reward.

 

[finglonger]

Not what I am looking for because it shows the price per unit but not a total profit.
In order to determine the entire profit from it, I would have to fall back on Excel & Co.

not sure what im missing here but buy low sell at higher price per unit = higher total profit

if your selling multiple goods, to get the best profit more often than not you need to visit multiple locations, in which case eddb will show you where to go to get the best profit
and will you how many credits in total and how much profit you might expect to get

eddb shows you clear profit per haul per run even if you select multi hop runs, iirc it will show you your total expected profit at the end of the run...no need to use any other tool.. eddb does all the excel & co grunt work for you... experiences may vary due to age of current prices and other effects which affect market prices

if your looking for something that shows max proft or reward from mission runs then not sure thats even possible as mission rewards are iirc generated by god, whilst certain mission types may pay more, youll find no 2 players get the same reward, for most missions... unless its been fixed, simply relogging will show you different missions with better or worse rewards

 

[metatheurgist]

Don't worry about credits. The CR economy is so hopelessly broken it won't matter if you make a bit less here or there.

 

[Admiraldkong]

not sure what im missing here but buy low sell at higher price per unit = higher total profit

if your selling multiple goods, to get the best profit more often than not you need to visit multiple locations, in which case eddb will show you where to go to get the best profit
and will you how many credits in total and how much profit you might expect to get

eddb shows you clear profit per haul per run even if you select multi hop runs, iirc it will show you your total expected profit at the end of the run...no need to use any other tool.. eddb does all the excel & co grunt work for you... experiences may vary due to age of current prices and other effects which affect market prices


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if your looking for something that shows max proft or reward from mission runs then not sure thats even possible as mission rewards are iirc generated by god, whilst certain mission types may pay more, youll find no 2 players get the same reward, for most missions... unless its been fixed, simply relogging will show you different missions with better or worse rewards

What you show is a loop route trade route(With an M Pad in the target port for a cutter).
But what I am looking for is a calculator that indicates me how much the goods that can be chosen for missions can be earned in total profit than pure money reward.

Is the Google translator so bad that nobody understands what I want?
I would write about this forum in the German part, but there are too few players.
And if I were writing here in German, the mods immediately went to the ceiling.

 

[Ashnak]

how much the goods that can be chosen for missions can be earned in total profit than pure money reward

And exactly this "can" is not determinable.
You can be reasonably sure to realize the Galactic Average value (that is already shown in the mission page) with little effort.
The maximum theoretical gain is much higher, but depends on a lot of external factors. You can find sales prices between 10% and 500% of the Galactic Average - depending on BGS and how much you have in your hold. The issue here is that you'll have to find that lucrative market first, and it may very well be on the other side of the bubble (and, if you found it through public sources, dried up by the time you get there).

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

ferengi rules of acquisition come to mind for some strange reason

 

[Ashnak]

Extreme example: right now, there's a CG ongoing. You can get paid 30kCr per ton of Cobalt that you deliver to the CG ship. Cobalt Galactic Average is around 3.5 kCr. So if you buy - or acquire as mission payout - Cobalt at galactic average value, then truck it over to the CG system and successfully deliver it, you'll gain 26.5 kCr/ton.

Downside is that you'd be supporting a morally very questionable company bent on genocide.

 

[Admiraldkong]

ferengi rules of acquisition come to mind for some strange reason

009?
Rules of Acquisition are not stupid.

 

[Mrc_NorthEast]

Extreme example: right now, there's a CG ongoing. You can get paid 30kCr per ton of Cobalt that you deliver to the CG ship. Cobalt Galactic Average is around 3.5 kCr. So if you buy - or acquire as mission payout - Cobalt at galactic average value, then truck it over to the CG system and successfully deliver it, you'll gain 26.5 kCr/ton.

Downside is that you'd be supporting a morally very questionable company bent on genocide.

Well only if you 'sign up' for the CG right? If you do not sign up for the CG and still deliver the Cobalt, it is kinda like we are stealing the money from that company without them getting the benefit of the CG deliveries... Or at least I hope we can do that this time around

 

[Admiraldkong]

Extreme example: right now, there's a CG ongoing. You can get paid 30kCr per ton of Cobalt that you deliver to the CG ship. Cobalt Galactic Average is around 3.5 kCr. So if you buy - or acquire as mission payout - Cobalt at galactic average value, then truck it over to the CG system and successfully deliver it, you'll gain 26.5 kCr/ton.

Downside is that you'd be supporting a morally very questionable company bent on genocide.

And the total profit would be at 704T where?
ED game community already showed at this Federation surveillance authority CG that credits is more important than morality.
Rules of Acquisition 263: Never allow doubt to tarnish your lust for latinum.

 

[Ashnak]

And the total profit would be at 704T where?

Depends. You can (possibly still) buy at ~2.4...2.7 k/t and sell at 30 k/t, so a profit of >27 k/t. Times 704 makes roundabout 19 MCr..

Even better if you can load up your carrier with 10 kTons or so and park it in system (or at least next door, in system looks rather full from EDDB). If you really want the Thargoids to become even angrier.

 

[Pharreze]

what I am looking for is a calculator that indicates me how much the goods that can be chosen for missions can be earned in total profit than pure money reward.

If I understand you correctly, you want to know if taking the "goods/commodity" reward and then selling the goods at market nets you more or less than the "credit" reward? I hate math, especially in this game, but I think it's not more complicated than looking up the current best sale price vs the galactic average for that commondity on eddb.io or Inara and then adding that number to the credits you get from the reward... as someone said above.

But I look at it differently, and I do some more serious trading / hauling although I'm sure others are more serious and more expert. For the most part, I only ever take the "pure money reward" or, more often, the Reputation reward if it's available and I'm not already allied with the faction, so as to generate better paying missions in the long run, or take my cash and go. The only time I take the "goods/commodity" reward is if it's something that I need, something that I know is really valuable at that moment (and that is obvious by just looking at any of the previously mentioned tools), or something that I, or another fleet carrier owner, might want to stock up on that isn't purchasable-also as someone else mentioned.

Beyond all that, it's very micro, and I love micromanaging things, especially in games like this, but there has to be a limit, and again as previously mentioned, a few credits here or a few credits there doesn't really matter in the long run unless you live to min-max in which case, get your own calculator out, it's much faster than endlessly searching for a 3rd party tool, trust me.... I've spent so many hours trying to find a tool to answer whatever micro question is on my mind in that moment rather than just playing the game.

if I were writing here in German, the mods immediately went to the ceiling.

Have you been scolded for this before, particularly if having difficultly expressing something? I think we need to make a reasonable accommodation here, as long as English-speaking readers of the thread can still understand. z.B. keep the english translation at the top but add the German below, or even in a spoiler, for those of us who might be better able to respond to you (in English) with that additional context?

 

[STRONTIUM DOG]

009?
Rules of Acquisition are not stupid.

not a rule I am familiar with but a worthy addition most will agree
I was just reminiscing at rules 284 and your rightfull lust for 74