Profits from exploring?

How does the game decide how much your data is worth?

I wonder because I keep hearing people talking about the millions and millions they get from doing a month of exploration... yet I'm getting 50k, 60k for the same period. Dozens of star systems, hundreds of planets and stars, and I'm only making a fraction of what others are reporting.

Am I doing something wrong?

I have the advanced DScanner, and I have the planetary surface scanner, so I don't know what else there is...
 
50-60k is just about 100-120 astronomical objects like stars or planets discovered with your discovery scanner. You have to actually use the scanner so it will scan. On average a system has about 12 objects so you would get at least 6k credits per visited system.

Therefore yes you are doing something wrong :)

Hopp into the system, fire the ads, check your sysmap for interesting planets and then fly towards them for detailed scan. Gets you a lot more than 50k per month :)

fly safe,
mls
 
You get a basic payment for using the discovery scanner, an extra bonus on using the detailed surface scanner (excluding asteroid belts), and an extra bonus if you are the first to discover a system body (again excluding asteroid belts). The monetary reward depends on the types of bodies and stars.

The way I work with exploration is this:
  • Go out of the bubble on a good exploration ship, adequately prepared.
  • Set 1,000 LY paths.
  • Scan every system I jump to.
  • Scan the system's bodies.
  • Rinse and repeat.
You are going to find many undiscovered systems after you move at least 1000 LY away from the bubble. Working like that will amass many scanned by you systems and for each page sold when back you should get a decent amount (my highest so far for one page was around 750,000 CR. Obviously, the longer you are out, the more systems you scan. It takes patience and time. Did I mention patience? B y the way I don't do it for the credits. I do it for the love of exploring and discovery. The credits are a nice bonus but I'd do it even fo no payment.
 
Detailed scans of planets and stars earn big money. Check out one of the many exploration guides to find out what objects have the most scan value.
 
How does the game decide how much your data is worth?

I wonder because I keep hearing people talking about the millions and millions they get from doing a month of exploration... yet I'm getting 50k, 60k for the same period. Dozens of star systems, hundreds of planets and stars, and I'm only making a fraction of what others are reporting.

Am I doing something wrong?

I have the advanced DScanner, and I have the planetary surface scanner, so I don't know what else there is...

I know this might be a dumb question but are you actually triggering the advanced discovery scanner? A basic discovery scanner and the advanced scanner will both automatically do a passive scan of the closest object(s) when you drop into a system (i.e. the main star and any very close planets or binary companions to the main star) and give you a message telling you the presence of a new object has been identified but it will still be shown as 'unexplored' in both the contacts list and if you select it on the system map.

Tto use the advanced discovery scanner 'properly' you need to bind it to a key or button and hold that key (it doesn't matter whether you have anything selected or not, the ADS scans the whole system and will find everything - you will see a blue bar move in your HUD beneath the ADS when you hold the button and hear the famous 'honk ' sound when the scan has completed - you will now be able to see all objects in the system in the contacts list and on the map, not just the ones that were close enough to be picked up by the automatic 'passive' scan.

Finally, to use the detailed surface scanner, you need to select an object and fly towards it. When you're in range for the DSS to work, you will see the bottom left hand display in your cockpit change to show 'scanning'. When the detailed scan has finished you will get a message in blue at the top right of your HUD and you will see that the selected object's name has changed from 'unexplored' to whatever its actual designation is. The easiest way to test your DSS is when you jump into a system at first come to a dead stop, point yourself at the centre of the star and target it - your DSS should start to scan it.

As for how much things are worth there are a few tables online with the values of various types of star, planets etc. I need to get some work done right now lol, but if nobody else has done it, I'll link them when I get home in a couple of hours.

Hope the above doesn't come across as patronising or that I'm teaching you to suck eggs - it's just that it sounded from your post that you might just be doing the automatic passve scan in each system but not fully using the advanced scanner or the detailed scanner.

One thing I will say is that unless you're a completionist who just has to scan every body in a system when you discover it, you might find yourself getting a bit selective about what you do and don't perform detailed scans on. Depends whether you're doing it primarily for money or just the joy of discovery. The great thing with exploration is that there's no right or wrong way to do it, just have fun with it.

If you are chasing the credits, black holes and neutron stars are the best paying as I recall. Easiest way to find some is to head about 10k light years in towards the core (although you can find them much closer than that, I hit a field of them about 6k light years inward last time I headed towards the core) and then head about 1k light years straight up. Be very careful jumping into systems with a neutron star as the primary star though and ALWAYS set your throttle to zero before you come out of hyperspace unless you like cooking your ship.
 
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You dont do exploration for the credits.....you get a lot more from doing the pewpew stuff.....which I hate!

I scan all objects in a system except Asteroids & Ice/Rock worlds. My average is at least 1 Mil credit per 1000LYs travellled - excluding bonuses for first discoveries.
 
Hey, thanks for the replies.

Ya, I do the actual D scan when I enter a system (ie. warp in, target the unexplored star, do the D Scan while the star is evaluated by what I assume is my Detailed Scanner). Once the D Scan is done, it will BONG (man, wish I could change that annoying sound) and list all the new discoveries. I filtered out asteroids, since they aren't worth anything.

At that point I fly to each planet/moon/star in the system and let it scan as I approach. I was under the impression it was automatically using the Detailed Scanner to do that. Sometimes I'll land and drive around a bit if the planet looks interesting in some way (but I don't do that anymore because there's always elite or dangerous pirates circling around them lately, which I can't possibly combat).

And that's it. Once done, I move on to the next system.
 
Finally, to use the detailed surface scanner, you need to select an object and fly towards it. When you're in range for the DSS to work, you will see the bottom left hand display in your cockpit change to show 'scanning'. When the detailed scan has finished you will get a message in blue at the top right of your HUD and you will see that the selected object's name has changed from 'unexplored' to whatever its actual designation is. The easiest way to test your DSS is when you jump into a system at first come to a dead stop, point yourself at the centre of the star and target it - your DSS should start to scan it.

That's a good point actually and this is what makes system scanning so slow. But I read somewhere that it increases the credit reward by up to 30% depending on the body. Also greater rewards if you discover bodies that are candidates for terraforming and of course Earth-like worlds.

We don't get the "first discovered by" tag unless we complete the detailed surface scanner pass.

One thing I will say is that unless you're a completionist who just has to scan every body in a system when you discover it, you might find yourself getting a bit selective about what you do and don't perform detailed scans on. Depends whether you're doing it primarily for money or just the joy of discovery. The great thing with exploration is that there's no right or wrong way to do it, just have fun with it.

Hehe, I am an almost completionist. I scan everything except asteroid belts. :D

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Hey, thanks for the replies.

Ya, I do the actual D scan when I enter a system (ie. warp in, target the unexplored star, do the D Scan while the star is evaluated by what I assume is my Detailed Scanner). Once the D Scan is done, it will BONG (man, wish I could change that annoying sound) and list all the new discoveries. I filtered out asteroids, since they aren't worth anything.

At that point I fly to each planet/moon/star in the system and let it scan as I approach. I was under the impression it was automatically using the Detailed Scanner to do that. Sometimes I'll land and drive around a bit if the planet looks interesting in some way (but I don't do that anymore because there's always elite or dangerous pirates circling around them lately, which I can't possibly combat).

And that's it. Once done, I move on to the next system.

That sounds like what I do mostly. The only difference is that I go thousands of LY out of the bubble and scan hundreds of systems. Hence, returning I have pages of the stuff to sell. Maybe the systems inside the bubble are worth less than the ones outside? I'm not sure.
 
So.. do you actually sell the data to Universal Cartographics? Because there is no way you were out for even more than a few hours and only earned 50-60k. A lot of systems are worth way more than that just by themselves.

Oh, and if you die, you lose all of your data. So if that happened and you only had the data for the last few bubble systems you visited, that might be what was only worth that...
 
That sounds like what I do mostly. The only difference is that I go thousands of LY out of the bubble and scan hundreds of systems. Hence, returning I have pages of the stuff to sell. Maybe the systems inside the bubble are worth less than the ones outside? I'm not sure.

Ya, I'm in the bubble right now, was planning on selling my T6 (/cry) for an Adder so when I'm inevitably ganked by overpowered npcs I can afford to replace the ship and keep playing (sorry, but I had to get that little dig in there, I'm rather frustrated with the "AI" situation right now). So, what you say may be true. Maybe bubble systems are just less valuable by default.

Hm. Time to plan another long trip.

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Actually, that brings to mind another question...

Is there a way to see what data I have without visiting a station?
 
Ya, I'm in the bubble right now, was planning on selling my T6 (/cry) for an Adder so when I'm inevitably ganked by overpowered npcs I can afford to replace the ship and keep playing (sorry, but I had to get that little dig in there, I'm rather frustrated with the "AI" situation right now). So, what you say may be true. Maybe bubble systems are just less valuable by default.

Hm. Time to plan another long trip.

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Actually, that brings to mind another question...

Is there a way to see what data I have without visiting a station?

Re: fighting, I'm strictly a non-combatant and my ASP doesn't have weapons. I specialise in the art of running away from trouble (i.e. submit, boost, jump).

There is no way to see what you have scanned. Only at the station you can see in detail.
 
So.. do you actually sell the data to Universal Cartographics? Because there is no way you were out for even more than a few hours and only earned 50-60k. A lot of systems are worth way more than that just by themselves.

Oh, and if you die, you lose all of your data. So if that happened and you only had the data for the last few bubble systems you visited, that might be what was only worth that...

Ya, I do sell it (but I didn't in this instance, as I wanted to see if it would be worth more elsewhere).

Thanks for the replies all.
 
Hehe, I am an almost completionist. I scan everything except asteroid belts. :D

I scanned an asteroid belt. Once. :D

Ya, I'm in the bubble right now, was planning on selling my T6 (/cry) for an Adder so when I'm inevitably ganked by overpowered npcs I can afford to replace the ship and keep playing (sorry, but I had to get that little dig in there, I'm rather frustrated with the "AI" situation right now). So, what you say may be true. Maybe bubble systems are just less valuable by default.

Hm. Time to plan another long trip.

Actually, that brings to mind another question...

Is there a way to see what data I have without visiting a station?

On your last line, nope. Keep hoping - I think a lot of us are praying that exploration mechanics will one day get some love from the devs.

There's nothing intrinsically more valuable about systems in or out of the bubble, it's purely the stars, planets etc that deterine the value. One thing to ber in mind though is that you're not going to be getting any first discoverer bonsues for systems in the bubble and that does bump your income up a bit.

You sound as if you're doing the actual exploration stuff just fine so yeah, this was my next question:

So.. do you actually sell the data to Universal Cartographics? (i.e. When docked at a station) Because there is no way you were out for even more than a few hours and only earned 50-60k. A lot of systems are worth way more than that just by themselves.

Ninja'd by your reply lol.
 
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Ya, I don't usually stay in the bubble... and I actually did get a first discovery! Unfortunately, I have no idea what or where it was, I clicked past the message before I realized what it said. Syneufe somethingorother, I think it was. I'd been kicking around the Pleiades, so I was actually suprised to get one in there. I figured it had all been discovered. I've been planning a trip to Barnard's Loop for some time, maybe I'll head out that way next.
 
I scanned an asteroid belt. Once. :D

I used to scan asteroid belts when I was selecting them from the system map and it would always select the one (and I though there is only one in each system). Then, one day, after I discovered the navigation pane, I finally understood that there is never just the one asteroid belt. Sometimes a 50-body system has 30 asteroid belts... I stopped pretending to be a completionist then and started my career as an almost-completionist... :D
 
Hi there commander, there are many parameters that determine your exploration payout. For that I suggest you check out these two resources:
1. Visual guide to exploration - http://i.imgur.com/Lw01Dg5.jpg
2. The popular guide to exploration - https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1nnVPJg7aggIJUomoHQ9STmseRJkREicL2UCJ1Dox5f4/edit#slide=id.p

My experience: I recently got back from a quick tour around California nebula, scanning only valuable things and basically rushing back to get my A rated FSD, it took me about 2 or three days with about 3-4 hours of gametime each day. This netted me about million and half.
 
I wonder because I keep hearing people talking about the millions and millions they get from doing a month of exploration... yet I'm getting 50k, 60k for the same period.
At the risk of stating the obvious ...
a month of exploration for some people might be 3 or 4 hours a day for 30 days. For another it might be half an hour on the first saturday, an hour on the second wednesday and then nothing until the last day of the month. Credits per 1000LY travelled is almost as bad because some will do that in 30 jumps and others in 100. Credits per system is somewhat meaningful, though it can depend on where you are, but it largely shows your 'style'.
 
Is there a way to see what data I have without visiting a station?

In game? No.

There are, however, third party tools that will read your logs and keep track of where you've been for you.

The two most prolific are ED Discovery which will sync with EDSM and draw nice maps of your travels for you and Captain's Log which has features to let you log the bodies you find in each system and will estimate the credits you can expect to make when you sell all that lovely data.
 
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