PSA: Attn CMDRs!

So if you attack me in game I have a right to say whatever I want to you? I disagree. Thats why report for abusive behaviour exists in the game.

Elite is remarkably civil compared to other games, especially some of the online shooter variants with voice chat. I'd prefer if it was kept that way tbh. Swearing works in some games but not in Elite imho
It's concern trolling. "Oh no, I interdicted this guy and disabled his ship and spent ages lording it over him that I was more powerful for literally no other reason than to feel good about making him feel bad and then he said a rude word which totally offended me because I am pure and innocent, whatever will I do?" I don't believe for a single second that he's offended by the swearing, he just sees it as another way to pick on the guy.
 
You are defending a PIRATE. " he murders people but he's really a nice guy" The mouth on the cmdr was wrong however why are you defending his profession ? insanity
 

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Hm, I've always "shared" Cargo to any fellow CMDR that won an Interdiction and opened comms with "Yar!" :D

(game description states it's a "cutthroat Galaxy" after all, right?)

PS.
If proper Pirates were our only issue in the Game (Open Play), we'd have alot less Problems. Like... ALOT less.
Heck, we'd be doing stellar if that was the case.
 
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I can get preferring to die than hand over cargo. It's kind of interesting to think that all he had to do was roleplay a bit

You do realise that refusing to give in to piracy and going down with your ship is just as valid a role playing as rolling over like a cowardly dog and giving in to the demands of pirate scum right? One of the peculiarities I see here all the time is the belief that role playing involves behaving exactly as the other player demands you behave to fit his demands of role play! No, role playing is to act exactly how your role played character would behave, and mine would never give in to piracy, death or glory!
 
Thank you for all the responses, I'll reply to them shortly!

However, it appears that some CMDRs reported my post for 'Naming and Shaming,' and 'dodging the swear filter,' evening though everything in my pictures was blocked out in MS paint. Not an uncommon thing to do on the forums when sharing a story. Methinks the reports have less to do with the post, and more to do with a dislike for piracy.
 
Thank you for all the responses, I'll reply to them shortly!

However, it appears that some CMDRs reported my post for 'Naming and Shaming,' and 'dodging the swear filter,' evening though everything in my pictures was blocked out in MS paint. Not an uncommon thing to do on the forums when sharing a story. Methinks the reports have less to do with the post, and more to do with a dislike for piracy.

You did miss a name when you redacted your images.
 
Report player for swearing. Doesn't belong in the game imho.
Personally I'd have let him know that you are killing him because he isn't civil then blown him up and reported him.


Thank you for being the "true" pirate that this game needs and I look forward to being pirated by you some day... If you catch me first ;)


That was absolutely hilarious! +rep for making me crack up out loud.


he didn't combat log, you have to give him that.

Yes, You're right. Credit where credit is due, he didn't pull the plug.

Good effort, a credit to your profession Cmdr!

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Did you say "state sponsored"?

If so then you are not really a pirate, I think this makes you a "Privateer"!

I did mention 'privateer' in the post. I try to roll play one since FD hasn't coded it into the game (hint hint, wink wink FD).


Pah, an Imperial! They are even worse then griefers! :p

How dare you insult the glory of the Empress, you federal dog!


He just told you to go fly yourself, but why he'd call you a duck I have no idea.

You did miss blanking a name there though.

Thank you, the appropriate correction has been made. I have no idea how I missed that name.


Piracy is theft.

Remember some commanders would rather die than give a mealy mouthed, penny pinching, persimmonous pirate one tonne of their cargo.

Heck if that was me the commas would be. A bit bluer than "duck" and "go fly yourself".

I don't know what you are complaining about, they didn't log, they gave you grief and they went down with their ship. You got a bounty and no cargo, he escaped in his pod to the insurance claim lobby, smug in the knowledge that another pirate family will starve tonight.

Sooner we wipe the pirate scum from that system the better!

Not complaining, just trying to make light of a hotly debated topic on the forums. Commenting on it through satire and roll-play. Oh, and YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!!!


I have only one word for pirates: "All pirates must die!", and they usually do. Or I do. One or the other. Mostly they do, die I mean. Although, ah, who cares.

"All pirates must die!"

Catch me if you can, bounty hunter! (That is, unless I feel like hunting pirates that day. In that case, yes, all pirates must die! :p )


It's really cool how you used hatch breakers after the target ship had no thrusters anymore. Glad you did that because otherwise it could look like … Yea, whatever.

I actually do not carry hatchbreakers on my Clipper anymore. In the past I have found that I almost never use them, and they just eat up power and module space. Often times the hull goes down before the Drives, and in most cases I'll just let the target go if I cannot disable him before his hull reaches around 15%. Additionally, using breakers on a ship that isn't disabled is basically pointless. The only reason I killed this guy was because of how rude he was. Even then, I still offered to help him reboot/repair his ship (see images).


That guy was absolutely right to curse you out, it's pretty obvious you're only doing "piracy" so you can get off on what little power you held over him. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't be gloating on the forums about it afterwards, would you?

It's concern trolling. "Oh no, I interdicted this guy and disabled his ship and spent ages lording it over him that I was more powerful for literally no other reason than to feel good about making him feel bad and then he said a rude word which totally offended me because I am pure and innocent, whatever will I do?" I don't believe for a single second that he's offended by the swearing, he just sees it as another way to pick on the guy.

Thank you for your response. Where did you get your psychology degree from? I believe that institution owes you a refund.
I am not "concern trolling," I am making commentary on a hotly debated forum topic through satire and roll play. I am not gloating, nor do I "get off" on having power over others. Swearing does not "offend" me. The "ages" I spent "lording over" his ship was actually an attempt to allow my target to comply with my demands before resorting to the use of force, periodically giving him breaks after force had been used to reissue my demands, and then offering to help him after disabling his ship.

Ironically enough, this post was designed for players just like yourself. I guess some people just do not want to see the other side of the coin.


Hm, I've always "shared" Cargo to any fellow CMDR that won an Interdiction and opened comms with "Yar!" :D

(game description states it's a "cutthroat Galaxy" after all, right?)

PS.
If proper Pirates were our only issue in the Game (Open Play), we'd have alot less Problems. Like... ALOT less.
Heck, we'd be doing stellar if that was the case.

Yar!!! (And yes, I agree)
 
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Thank you for your response. Where did you get your psychology degree from? I believe that institution owes you a refund.
I am not "concern trolling," I am making commentary on a hotly debated forum topic through satire and roll play. I am not gloating, nor do I "get off" on having power over others. Swearing does not "offend" me. The "ages" I spent "lording over" his ship was actually an attempt to allow my target to comply with my demands before resorting to the use of force, periodically giving him breaks after force had been used to reissue my demands, and then offering to help him after disabling his ship.

Ironically enough, this post was designed for players just like yourself. I guess some people just do not want to see the other side of the coin.
Why are you pirating people if not for the power trip? I can't imagine the money is that good.
 
It's concern trolling. "Oh no, I interdicted this guy and disabled his ship and spent ages lording it over him that I was more powerful for literally no other reason than to feel good about making him feel bad and then he said a rude word which totally offended me because I am pure and innocent, whatever will I do?" I don't believe for a single second that he's offended by the swearing, he just sees it as another way to pick on the guy.

I think you'll find he spent the time asking for cargo, disabling systems and using hatch breakers, his aggression was in his actions - the comms was reasonable to try to get a reasoned response.

Its a tuff call when pirated, you need to work out whether to fight/flee or surrender - pretty quickly, as the pirate is on a timer due to system authority. If you get it wrong, you need to assume no 2nd chances, which this guy gives. Remember pirate does not know your local rep level, so have to assume rapid response. Everyone wanted rapid response System Authorities - all it does it kill you quicker if pirated - and I suppose the pirate has to up their DPS, so technically a loadout change.

Simon
 
Thank you for your response. Where did you get your psychology degree from? I believe that institution owes you a refund.
I am not "concern trolling," I am making commentary on a hotly debated forum topic through satire and roll play. I am not gloating, nor do I "get off" on having power over others. Swearing does not "offend" me. The "ages" I spent "lording over" his ship was actually an attempt to allow my target to comply with my demands before resorting to the use of force, periodically giving him breaks after force had been used to reissue my demands, and then offering to help him after disabling his ship.
Guess what - issuing demands, subduing someone by force, and then issuing more demands can be summed up quite succinctly as "lording over them".

In your OP you talked about how pirating people was often a good experience for both you and your target, as though that was of some importance to you. If you really believe that, why did you continue to pursue the player after he had made it quite clear that it was not in any way even close to a good experience for him?
 
I think you'll find he spent the time asking for cargo, disabling systems and using hatch breakers, his aggression was in his actions - the comms was reasonable to try to get a reasoned response.

Its a tuff call when pirated, you need to work out whether to fight/flee or surrender - pretty quickly, as the pirate is on a timer due to system authority. If you get it wrong, you need to assume no 2nd chances, which this guy gives. Remember pirate does not know your local rep level, so have to assume rapid response. Everyone wanted rapid response System Authorities - all it does it kill you quicker if pirated - and I suppose the pirate has to up their DPS, so technically a loadout change.

Simon
Again though, I really doubt piracy is a profitable enough profession (especially with the supposed game-threatening epidemic of combat logging that's supposedly going on), so the only reason to do it is if you enjoy being a bully. Which, you know, that's fine, the game supports it - just maybe don't then come on the forums to harrass your victim some more by being super smug about how you killed him.

If you had read the OP....

"I do it for the unpredictable and meaningful CMDR-to-CMDR interaction, as well as for the honor of the Empress!"

A more detailed account of why I sometimes pirate can be found here ( https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/242299-Fun-and-Memories-at-the-CG-A-Pirate-s-Tale )
Chinny reckon. You do it to enjoy victimising people, or you wouldn't be continuing your victimisation of that guy by trying to make an example of him on the forums. Yeah you've edited out his name now but that's hardly the issue is it?
 
Guess what - issuing demands, subduing someone by force, and then issuing more demands can be summed up quite succinctly as "lording over them".

In your OP you talked about how pirating people was often a good experience for both you and your target, as though that was of some importance to you. If you really believe that, why did you continue to pursue the player after he had made it quite clear that it was not in any way even close to a good experience for him?

Would you rather I had issued demands, then immediately fired upon and destroyed them? I often see traders complaining on this forum when pirates "don't give them the opportunity to comply." I make sure that I give ample opportunity. Do not mistake opportunity with "lording over them."

Both players having fun is of importance to me (see: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/242299-Fun-and-Memories-at-the-CG-A-Pirate-s-Tale ). That being said, I fail to see how a pirate "pirating" (i.e.: making demands, chasing a mark, disabling a vessel, etc) can be seen as outrageous and out of line behavior, especially when I am engaging in piracy in exactly the manner it was designed and implemented by FD. I'm not sitting out side of stations in a suicide-winder, I am not pulling and destroying ships with no coms. I am giving the trader every possible opportunity to make a decision, and gradually make my way through the escalation of force.
 
I am giving the trader every possible opportunity to make a decision, and gradually make my way through the escalation of force.
And then coming onto the forums to gloat, just so you can twist the knife a bit more if the guy sees it and/or stir up a controversy. Like I said above, if you want to get your enjoyment out of bullying people that's your choice but don't act like you're being noble.
 
Again though, I really doubt piracy is a profitable enough profession (especially with the supposed game-threatening epidemic of combat logging that's supposedly going on), so the only reason to do it is if you enjoy being a bully. Which, you know, that's fine, the game supports it - just maybe don't then come on the forums to harrass your victim some more by being super smug about how you killed him.


Chinny reckon. You do it to enjoy victimising people, or you wouldn't be continuing your victimisation of that guy by trying to make an example of him on the forums. Yeah you've edited out his name now but that's hardly the issue is it?

I find it funny that you somehow know why I do things better than I know why I do things.

Look, I am not going to step into your echo chamber. And again, I am not "making an example of the guy" on the forums. I am engaging in satirical and roll play discussion about a hotly debated topic on the forums. You refuse to see valid and meaningful game play opportunities outside of your own preferred gaming style; that's fine. Play how you will. But I am not a bully, nor to I "enjoy victimizing" other players in some sort of imaginary power trip. I have had some of my most positive player to player interactions while pirating, and still fly with some of my "victims" to this day.

Have a good day, Sir.
 
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From my perspective I give Kudos and rep on being a 'proper' pirate, but I can equally understand why the other dude wasn't happy to see you.
At least he also played properly and didn't CL when he clearly had plenty of time to do so.

Only the language was unnecessary. If I played in open, I'd probably rather explode than submit too, but no insults would be sent.
 

I did mention 'privateer' in the post. I try to roll play one since FD hasn't coded it into the game (hint hint, wink wink FD).

I actually do not carry hatchbreakers on my Clipper anymore. In the past I have found that I almost never use them, and they just eat up power and module space. …

The game really needs lettres de marque and special cargo missions. For those who want to play pirates/privateers and those who have fun getting pirated or better trying not to get pirated. It should be very lucrative for both sides.
That would be really cool. Imperial privateers trying to pirate alliance convoys (or any combination of super powers).

It's bad that hatch breakers don't really work. I read that they got a buff in 2.2, but I guess it wasn't enough. Those things should rip cargo out of the hold and bring it to the pirate. Ignoring shields, reducing the need of seriously damage the "victim" or even kill the other CMDR.

There is a lot that FD could add and fix to make the piracy aspect interesting for everybody without it being reduced to simple "drop cargo or I kill you" space begging like it currently is.
 
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