PSA: Do not report particular instances overzealous chat or ship name censorship

Oh the good 'ol days of original Fallout 1 and 2. With all that stuff that falls under 21+ category. Now we have political correctness and other decide what is right and what is wrong, essentially thinking for you. I'm really upset when someone decides for me. No toggle option is a crime. I'm an adult and i have full rights to decide whether I want to see profanities or not.

Not to mention real hypocrisy. You can buy and sell people - human trafficking. You can shoot skimmers - destruction of property. You can scoop material - unlicensed natural resource acquisition, theft (if from wreckage). You can shoot and pirate traders - piracy and assault. You can shoot and kill targets - assassination and murder.

All good and fair. But saying "Bucky Ball" is forbidden for it may corrupt minors...

I wait for game bans dor chat misbehave. Recently I saw one youtuber to be banned for punching in a face a female NPC, in a game that revolves around violence.

This whole consciousness of “OMFG someone might be offended by this,” really irks me.
We are moving into a world of ultra sensitive snowflakes where peole are actively searching for things to be offended by and calling them out, not even caring about prior context or frame of reference.

I got blasted on this very forum for using the epithet “g...” (literally as written here) seriously.

I really hate censorship with a prejudice.
rT9umAeE9yExkPAs4J0_MnpK7P-6NU4xIWkuJONdo5CVpwAgfTg6PYc4557H5f5ldXE3833onQ=w300-h300-nc
 
Never ascribe to the illuminati that which is adequately explained by a PEGI 7 rating.

Exactly.

Once, when I was a kid, we had a sports tutor arrested because of just this.

He was meant to be teaching us football, but every time he went to say "and kick the football like this...", the magic hand of censorship saved us! Instead he just blurted out "and kick the foot**** like this".

Long story short, some kid kicked another kid in the foot, all hell broke loose, a trophy cabinet got smashed and the tutor was arrested for disturbing the peace and teaching the kids violence.

So that's today's lesson.

Or something.


We are moving into a world of ultra sensitive snowflakes where peole are actively searching for things to be offended by and calling them out, not even caring about prior context or frame of reference.

Aye...offence is always taken - not given.
 
This whole consciousness of “OMFG someone might be offended by this,” really irks me.
We are moving into a world of ultra sensitive snowflakes where peole are actively searching for things to be offended by and calling them out, not even caring about prior context or frame of reference.

I got blasted on this very forum for using the epithet “g...” (literally as written here) seriously.

I really hate censorship with a prejudice.

Do you not think you are overreacting as badly as them ?.
 
could you please elaborate, why the filter is not an optional feature in the first place?

tinfoilhat question: does that have to do wtih tencent and the asian market that is currently facing lots of censorship and extreme restrictions to games?
or is it due to the omnipresence of SJW everywhere?

This whole consciousness of “OMFG someone might be offended by this,” really irks me.
We are moving into a world of ultra sensitive snowflakes where peole are actively searching for things to be offended by and calling them out, not even caring about prior context or frame of reference.

I got blasted on this very forum for using the epithet “g...” (literally as written here) seriously.

I really hate censorship with a prejudice.

I'm not sure why that (imagined or otherwise) dictatorship of the SJWs has to come into the discussion here.

Enforcing hgiher standards of language in the presence of children is not a particularly SJW concept: I was born in the late 80s in a resolutely lower class family, mom started working at 16 to help her parents family, my grandparents were manual workers, great grand-dad was a coal miner... no need to say nobody in the family other than myself and my sisters received much of an academic education and everyone subscribed to a no-nonsense outlook on life. But you can be sure that, as much as adults didn't mince their words, foul language was still frowned upon, and us kids were certainly held to a much higher standard.
It's basic decency really. Adults are free to become the foulest persons they want, but they can't really have that choice if as kids they never got to learn to behave and communicate decently.

Although the lack of a toggle for the filter is a silly oversight, do remember it's still a PEGI 7 game (for some reason).
 
I'm not sure why that (imagined or otherwise) dictatorship of the SJWs has to come into the discussion here.

Enforcing hgiher standards of language in the presence of children is not a particularly SJW concept: I was born in the late 80s in a resolutely lower class family, mom started working at 16 to help her parents family, my grandparents were manual workers, great grand-dad was a coal miner... no need to say nobody in the family other than myself and my sisters received much of an academic education and everyone subscribed to a no-nonsense outlook on life. But you can be sure that, as much as adults didn't mince their words, foul language was still frowned upon, and us kids were certainly held to a much higher standard.
It's basic decency really. Adults are free to become the foulest persons they want, but they can't really have that choice if as kids they never got to learn to behave and communicate decently.

Although the lack of a toggle for the filter is a silly oversight, do remember it's still a PEGI 7 game (for some reason).

Yeah, let's not derail this thread into political rants.
 
Never ascribe to the illuminati that which is adequately explained by a PEGI 7 rating.
But it had that rating BEFORE the filter was added. The Illuminati is a better explanation. Not a good explanation, mind you, but the rating doesn't explain anything unless there's been some change to the way ratings are assigned which would have put the game in danger of losing its rating.

Also, is Frontier committed to ensuring that this game always remains suitable for seven year olds? Because if so, we are NEVER getting space legs.
 
But it had that rating BEFORE the filter was added. The Illuminati is a better explanation. Not a good explanation, mind you, but the rating doesn't explain anything unless there's been some change to the way ratings are assigned which would have put the game in danger of losing its rating.

Also, is Frontier committed to ensuring that this game always remains suitable for seven year olds? Because if so, we are NEVER getting space legs.

Its just a swear filter in chat. I wouldn't assign any significance to it other than that.
 
The fact that you can’t choose to play in an adult only space is a little disappointing. My family and I are sweary by nature so I’d prefer free reign to speak how I speak.

Yet when I’m at work (one of my businesses is a language school in Tokyo) I make sure I keep things in check.

However, I honestly believe that the customers should choose their “play level” and the system should do its best to match without resorting to high school level algorithms impeded communication unnecessarily.

Someone asked why SJW found its way in? Becuse the whole “failure on the side of safety” at the expense of direct communication reeks of PC corporatism and “FamilyValyooz” AstroTurfing.
 
Communicating is important.

The filter censors perfectly normal, none offensive words.

Like, cockpit, fitted, assume, assess, assassinate, and hundreds of others.

Does it not just make you laugh ?.

All words are important.

As is the ability to decide when to use them.

I'm in an archery club with three distinct levels of shooting line banter, normal club a bit sweary, veterans very very sweary hugely improper and the juniors not sweary at all.

I shoot with all three groups and just adapt accordingly.

If they brought in a new club rule of no swearing I'd happily go along and provide a swear jar for charity, I don't see an issue.
 
Does it not just make you laugh ?.



As is the ability to decide when to use them.

I'm in an archery club with three distinct levels of shooting line banter, normal club a bit sweary, veterans very very sweary hugely improper and the juniors not sweary at all.

I shoot with all three groups and just adapt accordingly.

If they brought in a new club rule of no swearing I'd happily go along and provide a swear jar for charity, I don't see an issue.
If I were to offend anyone by typing a word, they're already free to block me.
No clunky server-side filters needed, the player can personally filter based on their own belief system.
It's already part of the game.
 
Why is swearing so important ?.

I could ask the counter-question: why is any form of swearing (and any non-swear uses of these words) so utterly terrible that it must be mandatorily censored? I am fine with voluntary filters for those who prefer it that way. I can respect that. But likewise, I want people (and FD in particular) to respect that I'd rather be able to read an f-bomb than to see asterisks.

As is the ability to decide when to use them.

A mandatory, untoggleable filter however takes that decision out of your hand.
 
Last edited:
I'm not sure why that (imagined or otherwise) dictatorship of the SJWs has to come into the discussion here.

Enforcing higher standards of language in the presence of children is not a particularly SJW concept:

hmm, in my country this game has a rating of 16+, aka that is "teenager" as far as i would translate it into english.
this contains the warning of explicit language.
and the presence of children in elite dangerous should be in the responsibility of their parents.

ok, i still remember that case a few month after launch where a father complained about the explicit language of the NPC pirates that his son (<10 years) was facing ingame.
 
Back
Top Bottom