PvP and Premium ammo synthesis

[geoffrey.hdt]

Hi PvPeers,

I do understand that when ganking or getting ganked, or when facing enemy commanders at a CZ, etc..."fair" should not be part of your vocabulary: what is essential is to get the kill(s) or survive.
As such, synthetising Premium ammo could make a huge difference.

Now, when circling the main star of a system to find worthy challengers, practice and hone skills, I believe one should be looking for a fair fight.
Do PvPeers usually start the fight with Premium ammo, or synthetise the same during the fight? Is it the norm?

I could do that, too. I know how to harvest brain trees, trade down mats, but every time that is a few hours' journey to do so.
I find it to be yet another horrible grinding mechanics (and why do regular ammo synthesis only refill half??? I would be fine to have this use twice the amount of mats but fill it all!), basically "rewarding" those who regularly spend extra time gathering mats.

Anyway, no ranting here, I just want to know if I should systematically go Premium when seeking PvP.
If I have to, I have to, but would rather not since all I want is practice, getting better, and am not even interested in the kill most of the time.

 

[Agrippa]

Nah, it's generally frowned upon. But of course some people still do it.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

Nah, it's generally frowned upon. But of course some people still do it.

I wish the color of the shots would change when using Standard or Premium...but then there is also the ARX bought color customization.

 

[St0rmFury]

Generally, from what I've seen it's ok to use premium ammo in organic PvP (where everything goes) but not allowed in arranged PvP matches.

 

[[VR] Bulbulunufus]

Using premium in any setting is frowned upon by respectable PvPers. But arranged matches tend to be self-policing, and a level playing field is important, whereas apart from griping at their opponent about it, there's little someone can do in an organic setting.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

Using premium in any setting is frowned upon by respectable PvPers. But arranged matches tend to be self-policing, and a level playing field is important, whereas apart from griping at their opponent about it, there's little someone can do in an organic setting.

Yeah, figured.
I just went to visit my brain tree friends to be ready for the last day of the CG

 

[deleteduser]

Douple plus DPS is great 'n all... but relying on preems to win a fight, just means you spent more time preparing to still explode.
#GitGud etc...

DPS is maybe 1/4 of the win/lose equation. At most.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

Douple plus DPS is great 'n all... but relying on preems to win a fight, just means you spent more time preparing to still explode.
#GitGud etc...

DPS is maybe 1/4 of the win/lose equation. At most.

I'd be happy to get rid of the horrible standard and premium synthesis, and keep only the basic one.
Grindind to get your ships engineered is one thing, but continuously grinding to keep up with the others is another.

Oh well, that hostile Corvette cmdr yesterday might have soiled his pants after my double shot + screening shell frag Python2 with premium ammo planted its noise on his back.
I can't deny I did not enjoy it.

 

[Lateralus]

If you get caught using premium its almost as bad as combat logging in PvP circles...

The main problem is its sneaky usage. The opponent does not get any notice that you're using it until they lose their shields/hull at an abnormal rate. I've always said there should be an indicator like you get for experimental effects used against you. At least you can then decide to either leave/use premium yourself or continue the fight with a known disadvantage.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

...that, or using alt accounts as crew members do get extra pips...

 

[Jack Winter]

I recently saw a video about using multiple accounts simultaneously in Elite. If true it suggests that Frontier frowns on doing so, especially in open and affecting other players. Might lead to a warning or possibly even worse.

 

[geoffrey.hdt]

I recently saw a video about using multiple accounts simultaneously in Elite. If true it suggests that Frontier frowns on doing so, especially in open and affecting other players. Might lead to a warning or possibly even worse.

Yup, some YouTubers got banned (for a few days) due to such practice after publishing some PvP videos.

Organically, I believe it is still better to wing up than using fake/real crew members for the extra pips.
And since a crew cannot join a wing...
But for the lone ganker, that would be a different story.