PvP Groups claiming systems

[Ghostickles]

It means that if you add someone to your ignore list you will not get spawned into an instance with them. 30 ships doing a "blockade"? no problem just add them all to ignore and the blockade effectively goes away.

Oh really? You can bury your head all you like, a majority of group players usually keep a long list of friends.
If your block list gets big enough its not everyone else who becomes lonely......
If you don't want to play others why are you here, is Open not for public, it should cater to you?

 

[ascendence]

if you guys cant handle that the online part of the game will develop its own dynamic, go play solo mode, whats the issue here?!

 

[schuesseled]

Yeah I see what your saying, one group of people having a bit of fun, in one of 400 billion systems really ruins ones day. Afterall, trading profits should never be interrupted hey. :/

And since someone brought up EVE.. Other than the dry spreadsheet gameplay, whats wrong with it? Lots of interesting emergent gameplay and player created content. Surely it beats drilling out meaningless trade routes and facerolling ones way to the best ships..

Let me ask though.. Having got that Anaconda, fully kitted out with billions in the bank.. What now? I wouldn't stress too much I think its pretty clear at this stage that Frontier is all about wrapping everyone in cotton wool and making them feel like special snowflakes. ugh!

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I don't see any problems with players trying to claim systems, heck let players start, control and try to beef up their own in-game factions.

 

[Morbad]

Anyone need a fighter escort? I've got guns and I know, more or less, which way the burny stuff comes out of them.

 

[StayFrosty]

Can't disagree with that...and players, inventing new ways to enjoy themselves, can only be a good thing.

Difference is, in Eve they can actually claim a system, here they can RP claim a system.....i think, perhaps that's what he was getting at.

His point seems mostly to be about him wanting ED to remain essentially a singleplayer game with no group activity, and most importantly, with no player being able to interact in any way they consider "bad" with them. This is a quite recurrent problem with those that refer to EVE.

Indeed the biggest problem is that the game won't really acknowledge it nor react to it, though it shouldn't be about ticking a "ownership" box either, which would make it less of a sandbox, but simply a reaction from the system authority. Which is why the crime system should be changed, and I say this as a criminal: paying bounties is too easy, the "wanted" status should stick for a longer time, and even then, you should remain marked as a criminal in some way.

 

[Messaline]

I don't comprehend this, meaning what or how? What are you saying, it sounds religious.

In the American South, if someone (almost always a woman) tells you "Bless your heart" in that particular tone of voice that only American Southern women can do, then you have just been royally burned. Basically, he/she is saying "Bless your heart". Nothing religious about it, believe me. As far as I'm concerned, you want to claim you own half the Milky Way, fine, do it if it makes you feel good or you're having fun doing it. I'll just go on ahead and do my thing in my environments (solo and private group), you do your thing in yours (open) and everyone's happy. No drama...no problems. Fair enough?

 

[SE-Apocalypse]

It means that if you add someone to your ignore list you will not get spawned into an instance with them. 30 ships doing a "blockade"? no problem just add them all to ignore and the blockade effectively goes away.

And I have great pity for those who think it is a smart choice to simply block anyone that annoy them and still have to play in open. It like shooting yourself in the knee.

 

[YDS55]

These people need to get some help. It's still a game and claiming systems is just a joke. I decide where I go in the game not some crazy people.

 

[SE-Apocalypse]

These people need to get some help. It's still a game and claiming systems is just a joke. I decide where I go in the game not some crazy people.

Not sure if serious. Because you are absolutely right. Claiming a system is just a joke, that is the whole point of claiming a system. Having fun about it, messing around with the game and the few player interactions that the game offers. Did I not get your sarcasm or did you just not get the joke? Do you need a disclaimer each time a pirate blows you up that it just a game, it all good fun and your ship blowing up is just a joke?

 

[YDS55]

Not sure if serious. Because you are absolutely right. Claiming a system is just a joke, that is the whole point of claiming a system. Having fun about it, messing around with the game and the few player interactions that the game offers. Did I not get your sarcasm or did you just not get the joke? Do you need a disclaimer each time a pirate blows you up that it just a game, it all good fun and your ship blowing up is just a joke?

No not everything was serious. It's a game and it's a joke but some people do take it way to serious and act like it's real life.
And sarcasme is hard to read so sorry for the misunderstanding haha.

 

[AlexRyder]

Please note, I'm not attacking anyone here but on the subject of "claiming systems"...

You can't claim a system unless you can have a constant presence in it... I applaud any group of players that can achieve this as it's a major feat of organisation.

If someone does this and you keep flying an unshielded type 6 into that system then you are a massive bellend and no the game shouldn't be changed to suit you. Your stupidity gets you killed, not the game.

Once multiplayer mechanics are properly implemented this will be a lot different, juicy cargo ships will have fighter escorts and trader convoys will change things also.

 

[SE-Apocalypse]

Please note, I'm not attacking anyone here but on the subject of "claiming systems"...

You can't claim a system unless you can have a constant presence in it... I applaud any group of players that can achieve this as it's a major feat of organisation.

If someone does this and you keep flying an unshielded type 6 into that system then you are a massive bellend and no the game shouldn't be changed to suit you. Your stupidity gets you killed, not the game.

Once multiplayer mechanics are properly implemented this will be a lot different, juicy cargo ships will have fighter escorts and trader convoys will change things also.

I doubt it. It seems like most traders trade simply in solo already and even more so would rather switch to solo than to invest some extra credits into escorts. The only player types who would fly escort for traders are those who currently are claiming systems. Sure, we can play with each other just fine, but we are unfortunately not the type of player that enjoys rudimentary implemented trade mechanics in the first place. So the chance to see an regular base player convoys is rather slime. The only place you might see them are private groups, a place were you not needing them anyway.

 

[seansamurai1]

Had it once.
doing a mission to pick up some bits.
some guy asks 'what are you doing in my system?'

after 6 seconds he says 'well?'

I just replied with 'milling about'.
id got what I needed and super cruised out.
i was hoping he would attack but he didn't, he knew full well systems authorities would have arrived.

hope he had a brilliant time on his own.

 

[Thermidor]

What really would be good is if you could (with LOTS of credits) corner a system to be owned by a player or group of players, and then earn cash from a % or trading done at the stations, or even hire a police force to stop people using your system all together without a pass. Groups of players of course would be able to raid and take back your system, it might bright MP forward a bit if it were done right.

 

[Flyinpiranha]

Eh, let them have their fun. There are multiple ways to avoid it so I don't see the problem. I'm pretty sure this isn't what was "envisioned" but then again, an MMO is a tricky beast. Either way, as long as they aren't exploiting game mechanics (although this can be good too, because that's how bugs are found and fixed) I see no problem with somebody playing the game you can play 'your' way, the way they please.

With Private Groups and Solo, I've had a lot of fun. I played in open up until about 2 or 3 weeks ago since beta and I just got annoyed at being interdicted while lazily playing/trading. I have too many real life distractions (kid, fiance, puppy, phone, etc ... ) to really pay 100% attention to the game every time I play so I'm glad they included a way for me to play by myself or in groups where I don't have to worry if I go AFK parked outside of a station for a bit. My only complaint really is that PVP-focused people are starting to whine and complain about game mechanics and getting them changed which ultimately results in my game being altered for the worse.