Question about Brain Trees

I tried searching and couldn’t find an answer to my question. I’m currently out and ran across some brain trees. I am no where close to a nebulae nor any Guardian site/ruins/systems. From everything I can gather brain trees = guardians somewhere nearby. It’s just this location isn’t near the typical I’ve read about both here and around the web.

I’m going to start searching nearby systems to see if I find anything. My question is has anyone found brain trees without some sort of guardian system nearby?

I actually signed up to the forums for this one :)
 
I just thought about it. I am within 1k ly of the current guardian bubble. Does that take care of my question or...?
 
My question is has anyone found brain trees without some sort of guardian system nearby?

I just thought about it. I am within 1k ly of the current guardian bubble. Does that take care of my question or...?

We have different definitions of "nearby", LOL. Seeing that I'm finding Brain Trees like corn in Kansas where I'm currently at, if "nearby" were 100 LY, I would be very interested in knowing this!
 
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It’s not really. I’m just trying to figure out if seeing them is a definite indication of a guardian location, and if so what’s the general distance, or if they’ve been seeded throughout the galaxy. Maybe like supply depots for the guardians when going from A to B.
 
It’s not really. I’m just trying to figure out if seeing them is a definite indication of a guardian location, and if so what’s the general distance, or if they’ve been seeded throughout the galaxy. Maybe like supply depots for the guardians when going from A to B.
The general rule is that an Ancient Ruins will have braintrees on every eligible body in a 70-100ly radius.

Applying that in reverse is what’s enabled various remote sets of Ancient Ruins to be found.

The area around the main Guardian region has exceptions though.

What are you treating as the Guardian bubble when you say you’re within 1kly?
 
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The general rule is that an Ancient Ruins will have braintrees on every eligible body in a 70-100ly radius.

Applying that in reverse is what’s enabled various remote sets of Ancient Ruins to be found.

Thanks! Pretty much what I was looking for. Really appreciate it o7

The area around the main Guardian region has exceptions though.

What are you treating as the Guardian bubble when you say you’re within 1kly?

Also, Old Duck, where are you approximately?[/QThe area around the main Guardian region has exceptions though.

What are you treating as the Guardian bubble when you say you’re within 1kly?

The area around HD 63154 seems to be where the main concentration on the galactic map shows them to be. Granted I’m an “old” noob to the game (started on the original back in ‘85) so I’ve only been at this for a couple weeks and could be wrong.

I poked around a little more and it looks like the closest Guardian sector is actually within 500-600ly away. I came back to the bubble to help someone out so I can’t give an exact range at the moment. I know it’s only one data point but it seems to be in line with a route that would link that area with the Eta Carina Nebula and the Guardian secotors there. Once I get back out there a little later I’ll post the exact range and start looking around to see what I can find.

However don’t all guardian sectors show up in the civilization filter now or do they have to be found first to show up?
 
Thanks! Pretty much what I was looking for. Really appreciate it o7
Anytime! Have a look at the main Guardians discussions sticky thread as well:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/380519-Guardians-Discussions

Lots of info on the front page, although the thread itself has gone a bit quiet, as most things just get posted in the general subforum now.


The area around HD 63154 seems to be where the main concentration on the galactic map shows them to be. Granted I’m an “old” noob to the game (started on the original back in ‘85) so I’ve only been at this for a couple weeks and could be wrong.
Close enough! And welcome back to the galaxy, from another original Elite player! o7

General consensus is that the 'centre' of Guardian space is in the Regor sector, but that's still only a guess. It's based on the density of Guardian locations per unit space, and that it gets denser towards the centre. 'Centre' doesn't necessarily mean the mid-point of all sites in this context though, and there could certainly be reason to suspect that what was Guardian space wasn't spherically distributed.

I poked around a little more and it looks like the closest Guardian sector is actually within 500-600ly away. I came back to the bubble to help someone out so I can’t give an exact range at the moment.
Have a look at the Canonn (Canonn is a player group) map for reference:

https://map.canonn.tech/guardians-combo.html

The Braintree locations aren't showing properly for me, but all the sites are.

Anyway, it'd be great if you could submit the Braintree location you found so it an be added to the map! Here's the link:

https://canonn.fyi/btreport

I know it’s only one data point but it seems to be in line with a route that would link that area with the Eta Carina Nebula and the Guardian secotors there. Once I get back out there a little later I’ll post the exact range and start looking around to see what I can find.
Any location is valuable info! A major consideration as well is that the current known locations are at least in part likely to be an artefact of where has been checked; there will have been far more activity on the bubble side of Regor than the far side.

Another consideration might be that the distance that Braintrees from the Guardian locations, isn't a fixed value, but is instead related to what the Guardian population density would have been. Comprehensive searches were difficult, but things have got a lot more accessible since 3.3.

However don’t all guardian sectors show up in the civilization filter now or do they have to be found first to show up?
No, not even all found and reported sites show on the Galmap.

I found one in Col 173 Sector HU-D C13-2 just after 3.0 dropped, and handed in the UC data. It still wasn't showing as Guardian when I went to map the relevant body after 3.3.

It didn't change after I handed the mapping data in either, though maybe it's updated since.

Anyway, on a related note, I'm intending of organising a wider community search at some point later in the New Year. Early days at the moment, but it'd be great to have you on board for it if you'd be interested!
 
Whereabouts are you at the moment?

I'm at ....... ooooh, you almost got me there ;) Sorry, I'm very protective of my "neighborhood", for reasons of which I also cannot share because it would give away my little secret. I can tell you that I'm not near the official "Guardian Bubble" as defined blue dots in the filtered Galaxy Map.

Which begs the question (one I asked in another thread), is it possible to find new Guardian ruins that currently are not displayed on the Galaxy Map? Are those "blue dots" all Guardian sites, or just discovered Guardian sites?
 
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I'm at ....... ooooh, you almost got me there ;) Sorry, I'm very protective of my "neighborhood", for reasons of which I also cannot share because it would give away my little secret. I can tell you that I'm not near the official "Guardian Bubble" as defined blue dots in the filtered Galaxy Map.

Which begs the question (one I asked in another thread), is it possible to find new Guardian ruins that currently are not displayed on the Galaxy Map? Are those "blue dots" all Guardian sites, or just discovered Guardian sites?
Ha ha ha! I’ll get you next time, cmdr, next time! ;)

But in seriousness, that’s fair enough! :)

To answer the question, the blue dots are definitely not all Guardian sites, as not even all discovered Guardian locations show as blue dots.

in terms of the Guardian areas, you can probably count anywhere within around 800 ly of Gamma Velorum (Regor) as the main Guardian area of space.

Even within that area, things that aren’t in the commonly travelled area (between Regor and the Bubble) are probably of more interest, as less people have been traversing those areas, so less have been discovered.

If you’re a good way from the main Guardian area, then you should be able to establish the edges to the area you’re in using Braintrees, and the systems the stop/start occurring in. Work out the edges and you should be able to tell where the centre is, which should be where the Guardian locations are.

If you’re within 1kly of Regor, then you may still be in the main Guardian area, which means that the Braintrees won’t necessarily have Guardian locations within 70-100ly.

Best of luck and hope you find something interesting! o7
 
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