Question for kickstarter backers

gary.brain

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I paid over £200 and I don't feel Entitled for anything, I still buy from the store to continue by support for the game.

I just know I helped the Dev's to get the money to make the game that I love and have loved since the Acorn days.


Long Live Elite.....
 

GaryII

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Obsidian Ant said:
Well the thing is, there wouldn't even be a game without those Kickstarter backers...
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This, and also if FD failed to deliver the game = they lost all money for nothing
So it was risky investment and it paid off, if they enjoyed E...
btw if somebody feels that he/she did not paid enough, there is solution - buy ship skins and other stuff from FD shop
 
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JeffRyan

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Jason S said:
Ok the 80 GBP KS option was a very good deal.

The DDF was a bad deal I think.

Naming your star was a bad deal given how many there are in my opinion.

Being an early adopter can mean risk but a big upside if you are lucky. Bitcoin shows that.
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A part of me regrets backing for the station. It has no real use in my gameplay and is in a backwater. I wish it was in Cubeo these days.
 

rasputinman

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Im a kickstarter backer , pledged £200 , bought a copy for my son and the horizons update , will probably get the next for him as well,

£200 is/was a lot of money for a game, in the end with all updates are free for me , the longer i play the better deal it gets

but , I will break even on the fifth season , still 3 to go
 

rootsrat

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rootsrat
Personally I don't think the KS backers are owed anything. They made the game possible, they got their rewards, sweet. I joined at Premium Beta 2 stage (wasn't in the financial position to back KS at the time unfortunately), which was the last chance to get LEP.

Do I feel entitled to anything? No. Sure, I have different view on the game and FDEV because I don't have to pay for the expansions anymore, but it doesn't make me feel superior to anyone at all.

We've all paid for this game, some more, some less. Just because Player 1 paid more than Player 2 due to paying separately for all the seasons, doesn't mean P1 paid more than P2 in total, as P2 may have spent fortune in the store for cosmetics.

In either case, nobody is more (or less) entitled to anything, just because they've paid more (or less).

IMHO.
 

Phoenix_Dfire

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I think the OP is missing the point a little.

Most of the backers I know of backed at levels that is the equivalent of paying for every expansion until year 8 or 9 of the 10 year plan and if the kickstarter had not reached the required amount (and there was some worry half way through) then we wouldn't be even having this conversation.

I know there's boasting, entitlement and regret i.e. personally shouldn't have backed for the DDF level and the removal offline issue for people who didn't have a reliable network connection was painful

But you'll find these backers are still buying ship skins and kits, bobbleheads and there will be name plates aplenty to support the game and I would prefer this to the monthly sub model.

I think the only concern I have, is that Frontier won't be able to keep it's promise to release the galaxy back end to the community when the game is 'Sunset' (I hate that term), so that we can continue playing Elite: Dangerous. I Still Miss the Matrix Online and Star Wars Galaxies when they were shut down and I'd hate to have the galaxy of Elite taken away from me as well.
 

xyphic

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I pledged at the DDF level. The only thing relating to my pledge that I'll get entitled about, or annoyed about is when people come on the forums and complain about the DDF backers. [And no, I don't regret putting in that much as I enjoyed the process even if the fruits of our labours were all but ignored]
 

Jex =TE=

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sewerratuk said:
Yup, I totally get that Mr Ant but on the flip side, without everyone else paying for the expansions the game won't develop very far

And I don't have a problem with kickstarters getting them for free, it's just the regular posts about I paid a nominal amount and now I'm entitled
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Well that depends on how you view development. remember that Elite was made by 2 guys, FE2 was made by Braben in 4 years which is almost the exact same game but it had more (ships, landable planets, cities, mining on planets, nuke missions....)

If one man can do all that in 4 years then I don't know what to say about them needing more money. What do they need it for exactly of the tens of millions they've already made?
 

Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
Phoenix_Dfire said:
But you'll find these backers are still buying ship skins and kits, bobbleheads and there will be name plates aplenty to support the game and I would prefer this to the monthly sub model.
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Agreed on both counts: my store purchases (second copy + Horizons, skins & bobbleheads) amount to about 60% of what I pledged during the Kickstarter (and that percentage is only likely to increase) - and I'm very glad that Frontier have not chosen to go down the subscription path.
 

Jex =TE=

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I'm not really sure what the OP is on about either. Self entitled? Surely OP you mean they are entitled, right? Entitled to get what they paid for? LOL are you saying that now that they've paid for something they're not entitled to get it?

I've never ever heard of such a strange, weird, ridiculous little view in my life.
 

Rob At Work

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I watched the kickstarter campaign with interest, but decided to resist temptation (and that was hard) and not pledge.

Two days after the game came out I bought in. I was blown away at the time and once the Lifetime Expansion Pass was offered again I took it. I have a few early cosmetic items also. More recently I have left the game in favour of "World of Tanks" but I wouldn't rule out a return, as I want those early feelings to return.

There is always a choice.
 
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iFred

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sewerratuk said:
The minimum fee to get all expansions at kickstarter was £80.
I joined at the mercenary edition stage and I have paid for Horizons, i didn't buy the second chance one off payment for all expansions for reasons. I will buy the next expansion if I'm still gaming by the time it comes out and at that point I will have paid out more than a lot of kickstarters (I'm not including all the other cosmetic stuff I brought because I'm sure lots of others have spent a bit on that too).

Anyway, will you still feel that you are owed more than the rest of us plebs when you are not contributing to the development costs?
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After I first heard that Elite is on Kickstarter we spent around 200 Euro for whatever-package. I didn´t even read the expansion policy at this time. I just remembered that I have a valid Elite License and the ability to play the basic version of Elite. I didn´t care about Expansions, DLC´s or whatever was planned, I just had read the Early Design PDF and I were pretty much convinced that we will see the most of the stuff that was mentioned in this document in the next 2 years with maybe the one or other DLC for a couple of euros, maybe once a year.

Then i bought a premium beta including LTP (IIRC in may 14, shortly before PB went live) for myself (best decision ever :)) and from this time I was 100 % sure that I never have to pay for a DLC or a season pass again.

I bought a couple of merchandising stuff, paint jobs, bobbleheads etc.

So, today´s amount of money that FD has gotten from me is between 400 and 500 Euro. I am currently starting the 26th ingame-week in playing time. I honestly can say that I got my money´s worth already. But: I wouldnt have played that much if I didn´t have the early design document in mind. All I am doing in the game right now is feeling like I am on a "preparation"-run for the things that still have to come into the game.

And I would be very disappointed if they start charging for new stuff or making a new game based on ED (rumours about Elite:Deadly are coming into my mind from 2 years ago).

And what ObsidianAnt said: There wouldn´t have been a game without us Kickstarter Backers, and to add to his statement: There wouldn´t have been so many backers without the very detailed concept FD had. So yes, I think they owe us the one or other page of the early design document :)
 

Arindor

Arindor
I bought PB and LXP and, at the time, it was worth it. So I'm glad I don't have to spend more money of ED atm. I hope FD don't renege on the LXP, but we're talking about a group of people who gave us PP and RNG, so anything can happen. If they do renege on the LXP, I hope ED dies. :)

Phew! I feel better after that bit of hyperbole! :D
 

Vikinger

Vikinger
I spent over 200£ in the kickstarter and ive never payed so much for any game before. But I wanted to be in from the start and pledged so I cud participate in the Alpha.
Today, If there is stuff in the store I find "useful" il buy it.

Without the backers we would not have any game.
So thanks to the backers :)
 
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Kosmetas

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Phoenix_Dfire said:
But you'll find these backers are still buying ship skins and kits, bobbleheads and there will be name plates aplenty to support the game and I would prefer this to the monthly sub model.
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I would have paid $720 at this point! I prefer the "full price" model... whatever that is.
 
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