questions about mining

So I tried mining for the first time today and while I did enjoy it overall and it seems like a great new gameplay loop to explore my results were not so great and I would appreciate any comments for improving my outcome. First off, I watched a couple videos and then went to a pristine metallic belt and flew directly to a Benitoite hotspot but after over an hour of mining I never once came across an asteroid with any Benitoite....zero, zip, nada. I ended up with a lot of Bauxit and Haematite, some Indite, some Uraninite and Lepidolite, some Rutile and assorted other minerals but nothing of really high value. I was in a Python and had 128 cargo but had to end up ejecting about 30 limpets in the end to make more space and fill up the ship. After selling I ended up with a little over a million credits. Tbh it seemed not much return on the effort compared to about 30 min bounty hunting in a RES where I can make 4-5 million.

A few things I don't understand so if anyone could explain it would help. Is it normal to deplete the asteroids after only 5-10 seconds of hitting it with the mining lasers bc that's what I found and I believe among many low concentrated asteroids I found quite a few with medium concentrated but don't remember seeing any high concentrations. I tried only mining with elements over 20-30 percent content but I don't understand how doing surface mining you get notification that asteroid is depleted when the beams haven't even going around the asteroid a single time.

Also, I got messages like resources unallocated or fragment requires allocation but no idea what that means. I also got message refinery full a couple times but then it would keep working so I figure maybe it just lags like when collector limpets say no valid targets but the other limpets continue to deliver items but idk for sure.

One last thing, I see on videos where cmdrs exclude things by going into the menu but I do not see that option either in the panel on the left or going into the inventory. Is there something I'm missing or is this not allowed anymore bc the videos I watched were at least a few years old and I know some things have changed over time.

Anyhoo, it was fun and pretty chill but I don't see this being a major game play loop for me unless one is able to make significantly more return on the effort.
 
Benitoite is found in rocky rings - core mining only and doesn't have hotspots EDIT - yes it does have hotspots.

The stuff you collected is low value - however it does count as units mined so moves you towards engineer qualification.

You can set material to be ignored (or removed from ignore list) in the left-hand panel, contacts page - select the fragment then on the right of the page you will get the option to ignore etc.

Making money by mining at the moment seems to be laser-mining for platinum in pristine metallic rings.

The following jpg I found very useful, you might too:

mining places.jpg

Click to enlarge - not my creation - EDIT: some info out of date.
 
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Hmm, that's strange because when I scanned the ring there were three hotspots that lit up with labels benitoite, alexandrite, monazite, and another I forget the name but when I pointed the ship in that direction the name lit up. But if they are only deep mine elements that explains why I didn't get any of it with surface mining.

About the panels, yea idk it didn't work for me but maybe I did it after all the material was collected. I thought there was material still available when I did it but I will try again.

Ty for the list I will print it off and use as resource.
 
Well I'm new here too so that list I got might well be outdated, I can't remember where I stole it from found it.

BTW - the EDTOOLS hotspot finder lists Benitoite as having hotspots so that info I gave was wrong, sorry



Linked there from EDMINING (dot) COM which is a great resource:

https://edmining.com/




I also had a good look for info when I first started, one thing I enjoyed was "The popular guide to mining" in the Guides and Tutorials sub-forum of the Newcomer's forum. It might be a bit out of date but in general it served me well as a primer:

 
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A few things I don't understand so if anyone could explain it would help. Is it normal to deplete the asteroids after only 5-10 seconds of hitting it with the mining lasers bc that's what I found and I believe among many low concentrated asteroids I found quite a few with medium concentrated but don't remember seeing any high concentrations.

Are you using prospector limpets class A because that makes a huge difference in the amount of material you can collect from each asteroid, this may be why you aren't getting much from each.
 
Is it normal to deplete the asteroids after only 5-10 seconds of hitting it with the mining laser
Depends on the prospector limpet controller you are using, depends on the size and amount of mining lasers you are using

any low concentrated asteroids
That's "material content", i.e. engineering materials (like Iron or Sulphur), not mineral content. That's the percentages you see from the prospector limpet.
I never once came across an asteroid with any Benitoite
Yeah, well, that's an ongoing issue - hotspots aren't. Also, depending on what you are looking for and in which type of ring you are, minerals may be accessible through classic lasr mining or one of the newer mechanics (surface, subsurface, core) and you can (are supposed to) look for those rocks with the wave scanner.

But if you want to mine for profit (instead of numbers for the engineer, or materials for engineering), then yes, Palladium/Platinum/Osmium are the minerals to go for. Just spam prospectors until you find a rock with a decent percentage of these, mine it and go on.
Oh - and find an Industrial or Tech station in Boom or Investment in a high population system to sell your stuff to (or rather, find such a station with high prices and high demand, the search on Inara for the nearest pristine metallic ring to go mining to. Station data on Inara are often outdated, rings aree static). I docked in the Minerva system yesterday with the intention to go mining in IIRC LHS 65 - but that constellation might have changed after today's server tick.
 
Depends on the prospector limpet controller you are using, depends on the size and amount of mining lasers you are using

Even with 4 mining lasers on my type 9 I get way longer than 5-10 seconds to deplete an asteroid when using top rated prospectors so it looks like that problem.
 
I went back to type A limpets. I switched them for D to save weight but I just prefer the longer life and I think the durability of the As. Also, I noticed something I had not before that you can visually watch as the percent of material counts down in real time in the bottom left screen. So I guess it's just that I expected such a big rock to take a long time to be depleted but that's due to my own misperceptions. It's actually pretty fun and in the most recent session I made 44 million so that's pretty good return on an easy loop vs jumping in and out of my ship to do more lucrative but not as enjoyable exobiology.
 
Gol dangit, why can't you folks read ? This is the place for PC discussions! Go mine your questions elsewhere!
 
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Well gee willikers if you really enjoy playing hall monitor this much you could've at least pointed out the proper place in which to post about mining bc I didn't see it here...and I did look first.
 
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Well gee willikers if you really enjoy playing hall monitor this much you could've at least pointed out the proper place in which to post about mining bc I didn't see it here...and I did look first.

That would probably come under playstyles, mining is a profession for some players so it would fit there, but I don't really worry to much, ask a question get an answer, that's fine.
 
The only thing that posting in the "correct" (whatever that may be in the eyes of anyone) subforum would help with is the amount and quality of the responses. Apart from the language rule (i.e. non-english content shoudl stay restricted to the corresponding language specific subforum), there are no official forum rules that would require (or even encourage) anyone to post any topic into a specific subforum.

That said - come over to the Newcomers forum. There's a few of old farts hanging out there who are usually very patient when it comes to beginner's questions. And we'll do our best, no matter which topic.
 
Maybe I'n wrong here but does anybody detected also when I'm mining the Limpets seems to be shoot rifght out of my pilots face? It's quite nice but unrealistic.
 
Maybe I'n wrong here but does anybody detected also when I'm mining the Limpets seems to be shoot rifght out of my pilots face? It's quite nice but unrealistic.
No. Unless there are some chunks drifting right ion front of my canopy, the limpets are leaving from (and returning to) the cargo hatch. What ship are you flying?
 
No. Unless there are some chunks drifting right ion front of my canopy, the limpets are leaving from (and returning to) the cargo hatch. What ship are you flying?
Imperial Cutter named "Aldi Reisen" (Aldi Voyages). It's is a new Phenomena. In the past I haven't it. With the same ship. Also the Limpets seems to "dance" recently.
 
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Yes - the dance under the cargo hatch is new.
 
If I understand correctly, the hotspots are for core mining only (although maybe also for subsurface mining? I'm not entirely sure.)

Anyway, I recommend trying core mining. It's a bit difficult to get the hang of at first (the game notoriously doesn't explain much), but once you do, it gives you the most valuable metals and minerals. (These are particularly useful if you are mining for merits.)

You'll need a seismic charge launcher and an abrasion blaster. After splitting the asteroid with the seismic charges, send limpets to collect the floating fragments, and use the abrasion blaster to break off surface deposits from the asteroid parts (which will usually contain the same material as was in the core).

You don't really need mining lasers for anything (what you get with them isn't really all that valuable, and almost useless if you are doing core mining. The lasers are better used in an actual dedicated laser mining build.) Although I suppose it doesn't exactly hurt to have them (after all, you only need two hardpoints for core mining, the remaining can be used for whatever.)

If you need to understand how to use the seismic charges effectively, I can explain that too. It's not completely trivial at first.
 
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