Rabbits - Aye or Nay?
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One of life's greatest mysteries is why the Tasmanian devil is desired so much
So after stating that i want a domestic one, the question would be what breed, cause unlike many subspecies the breed can have massive differences in size, color and other morpholical differences.
After checking zootierliste the most common breed (most zoos dont specify what breed they have, so this is to take with a grain of salt, but these are by far the most common of the breeds that are specified) is the flemish giant rabbit with 91 holdings and the german black and white "subbreed" (wikipedia counts them as the same breed atleast) having 38 holdings.
These twos main upside besides easily shipping as the same animal with the right one being a common color variation would be their size. Flemish Giants are the largest breed of domestic rabbit and the largest members of lagomorphs in general, reaching weights of up to 10 kg with an average of 6,8 and lenghts of over a meter.
They need lots of space to freely move around and would fit well planet zoos tendency of giving everything huge requirements, which wouldnt be a problem as they are also easy to spot thanks to their large size and active nature. They are also very docile and tolerant making them great fits for mixed species enclosures aslong as they have enough save space to retreat to.
Lastly its also one of the oldest rabbit breeds, dating back to the 16th century.
The other big option would be a lop rabbit, with 54 across the two more "samey" looking breeds, the german (35) and meissner (19) lop. Like the flemish and german giant, these are also often grouped up as their own category of breed, with 51 more holding the dwarf lop rabbit, which are most notable of being small and colorfull without relying on the possibly lethal "dwarf gene" (if you know what a munchkin cat is, its pretty much the same but bunny).
The lop rabbits most notable feature for inclusion, besides again being rather common in zoos, are their floppy ears and wide variety of colors and fur patterns.
Floppy ears are a common sign of domestication and would greatly varry them from their wild counterparts. The two larger breeds are among the larger size for rabbits, averaging around 5,5 kg, notable for their especally chubby cheeks and stocky build. The meissner breed, which has on average longer ears the the german lop and comes in blacks, blues and silvers, being quite good as a colormorph/slight model variation. They also are on the red list of endangerd breeds as critically endangerd, for those who like the conservation aspect of new animals.
Dwarf lops are significantly smaller and more colorfull, averaging between 1,4 and 2 kg. They would be to small for a variation, so they would work best as a third option for the breed, or maybe if frontier is especally generous as an extra animal thats a borderline reskin thats size adjusted with a few moddel tweaks and different color variants.
I think both options are pretty much equal and could easily exist side by side in the game if we had enough slots. In a perfect world we would get one pack with the european rabbit, one with the flemish giant AND the german giant spot, as they are pretty much the same animal but it would be cool if they had multiple zoopedia pages and the same deal in another pack with the german, meissner and dwarf lop, where we get 3 species for 1 with minimal difference besides coats, but 3 zoopedia pages. That way we would get a nice variety of different breeds without actually sacrificing more slots, but if we stop dreaming for a sec, having either a german or a dwarf lop with a meissner color variation for the german and a german giant spot color variant for the flemish giant.
But what do you guys think? Which one of the 3 would you want or is there even another breed youd like to see more then them and why?
Hopefully this gives the discussion a little more depth then wild vs domestic
After checking zootierliste the most common breed (most zoos dont specify what breed they have, so this is to take with a grain of salt, but these are by far the most common of the breeds that are specified) is the flemish giant rabbit with 91 holdings and the german black and white "subbreed" (wikipedia counts them as the same breed atleast) having 38 holdings.
These twos main upside besides easily shipping as the same animal with the right one being a common color variation would be their size. Flemish Giants are the largest breed of domestic rabbit and the largest members of lagomorphs in general, reaching weights of up to 10 kg with an average of 6,8 and lenghts of over a meter.
They need lots of space to freely move around and would fit well planet zoos tendency of giving everything huge requirements, which wouldnt be a problem as they are also easy to spot thanks to their large size and active nature. They are also very docile and tolerant making them great fits for mixed species enclosures aslong as they have enough save space to retreat to.
Lastly its also one of the oldest rabbit breeds, dating back to the 16th century.
The other big option would be a lop rabbit, with 54 across the two more "samey" looking breeds, the german (35) and meissner (19) lop. Like the flemish and german giant, these are also often grouped up as their own category of breed, with 51 more holding the dwarf lop rabbit, which are most notable of being small and colorfull without relying on the possibly lethal "dwarf gene" (if you know what a munchkin cat is, its pretty much the same but bunny).
The lop rabbits most notable feature for inclusion, besides again being rather common in zoos, are their floppy ears and wide variety of colors and fur patterns.
Floppy ears are a common sign of domestication and would greatly varry them from their wild counterparts. The two larger breeds are among the larger size for rabbits, averaging around 5,5 kg, notable for their especally chubby cheeks and stocky build. The meissner breed, which has on average longer ears the the german lop and comes in blacks, blues and silvers, being quite good as a colormorph/slight model variation. They also are on the red list of endangerd breeds as critically endangerd, for those who like the conservation aspect of new animals.
Dwarf lops are significantly smaller and more colorfull, averaging between 1,4 and 2 kg. They would be to small for a variation, so they would work best as a third option for the breed, or maybe if frontier is especally generous as an extra animal thats a borderline reskin thats size adjusted with a few moddel tweaks and different color variants.
I think both options are pretty much equal and could easily exist side by side in the game if we had enough slots. In a perfect world we would get one pack with the european rabbit, one with the flemish giant AND the german giant spot, as they are pretty much the same animal but it would be cool if they had multiple zoopedia pages and the same deal in another pack with the german, meissner and dwarf lop, where we get 3 species for 1 with minimal difference besides coats, but 3 zoopedia pages. That way we would get a nice variety of different breeds without actually sacrificing more slots, but if we stop dreaming for a sec, having either a german or a dwarf lop with a meissner color variation for the german and a german giant spot color variant for the flemish giant.
But what do you guys think? Which one of the 3 would you want or is there even another breed youd like to see more then them and why?
Hopefully this gives the discussion a little more depth then wild vs domestic
I am crazy for the Tassie. I'm also hoping for rabbits. Of course, I want every single animal to arrive in the game (153 down, only 1.4 million KNOWN species to go)
Well, thinking about history, Tassies have a big appetite and eat mooses, octopuses, gazelles, giraffes, Giselle's... AND ESPECIALLY RABBITS!!!
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the Teporingo (Romerolagus diazi) would make a great addition. Also known as volcano rabbits, these endangered lagomorphs are found in a very reduced area in Mexico, and Mexican zoos keep and breed this species for conservation and reintroduction projects. They are also found at a Japanese zoo, they were exchanged for one of the pandas that currently lives at Chapultepec. Why do I think they'd make a good addition?:
- Introducing a lesser-known endangered species to a wider public is always a good thing.
- Wider variety of small mammals for the game.
- Central-American representation.
- The well-needed lagomorph rig.
- If you build with realism in mind, this is a very iconic species if you ever feel like making a Mexican park.
- If you don't build with realism in mind, an adorable animal for all of your parks. If you feel like pretending they can perfectly pass as your domestic rabbits in your farm area!
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All this just reminds me that, if Frontier gave us the necessary tools to make and upload our own species (once DLC support is over, of course), then that would be the bomb.
All they'd really need to do is give us enough different rigs for it to work...
That gives me an idea for a thread. See y'all
Sir, thats literally what modding is
I know, I know. But it's limited. We're missing very few tools to make animals feel like they're part of the game, most notably sounds
I think the European Rabbit for me, though that's not an absolute that it must be that species. I absolutely love lop-eared rabbits, but their distinctive ears is what, to me, makes them not the picture of an iconic rabbit. Which i realize is the point with them. I think if we get one rabbit though, we'll probably get another. The reason I say this is that it would be a new rig, new animations, and that's a bit of work to invest on just one animal that's not an iconic "must have" animal for a zoo game (giraffe or meerkat for instance). So having a lop-eared and a standard Rabbit would be entirely possible I'd think.
I believe it is because most of the player base doesn't seem to know much about Australian fauna other than mainstream species such as kangaroo, koala, emu, and the Tassie. That and the dog-like face of the Tasmanian devil will easily win over people unlike other Australian fauna.
With regards to the topic, I believe that the rabbit wouuld work as a domestic animal, if the game support goes on longer than we anticipate.
I agree. As far as I can tell, I had been putting up the usual choices, and the Rabbit suggestions I've posted could've made a nice tradition.
American White Rabbit
Cape Hare
European Rabbit
Woolly Hare
Eastern Cottontail Rabbit
Black-Tailed Jackrabbit
Snowshoe Hare
American White Rabbit
Cape Hare
European Rabbit
Woolly Hare
Eastern Cottontail Rabbit
Black-Tailed Jackrabbit
Snowshoe Hare
Or maybe it's just because it's a really cool and unique animal. I'm quite possibly the biggest Australian wildlife nerd on this forum and it's still my most wanted animal, so I don't think a lack of knowledge is the reason for its popularity.
Aye
I’m sure my thoughts have been covered but, I am on the fence when it comes to lagomorphs.
I have seen rabbits in small exhibits and at petting zoo portions of zoos. To me that’s not all that interesting.
I remember an episode of The Zoo talking about their program with the New England cottontail rabbits, they admit that’s not a usual headliner for an episode but there’s a great story to tell. Those rabbits were pushed out of their natural range becoming a threatened species and the zoo is doing a part to reintroduce them to their range.
I would support Hares, Arctic, European and jackrabbits for habitats.
Rabbits in general as exhibit types.
I have seen rabbits in small exhibits and at petting zoo portions of zoos. To me that’s not all that interesting.
I remember an episode of The Zoo talking about their program with the New England cottontail rabbits, they admit that’s not a usual headliner for an episode but there’s a great story to tell. Those rabbits were pushed out of their natural range becoming a threatened species and the zoo is doing a part to reintroduce them to their range.
I would support Hares, Arctic, European and jackrabbits for habitats.
Rabbits in general as exhibit types.
Rabbits would make @Narwhaler so happy.
Unique group of animals with an unique rig, so big 'Aye' from me!
Unique group of animals with an unique rig, so big 'Aye' from me!
"There's the new DLC!"
"What, behind the rabbit?"
"It IS the rabbit".
"What, behind the rabbit?"
"It IS the rabbit".
sad Australian player noises