Rares Trading Metro Map

Count

Count
Drownerfood said:
Amazing map, what program did you use to draw all the lines?
Ah, 'BM' means black market, not 'banned material' or something. I didn't think there were that many illicit rares!
I think I've gotten more than 10T at a time from Jotun. Also, the dark blue lines look like they're on top of orange or light blue lines that they cross, when they're supposed to be the lowest, right? Also, is Diso system missing: it should be right next to Lave, right?
You probably know about this site, but it's a useful tool for anyone else reading the thread: Rare Trading Distances Calculator
Oh, I'm having trouble finding Cherbones on the map, to retrace the Blood Crystals to Lave CG a few weeks ago. Maybe a second page with some sort of grid or key to help find stations? It's hard to go from a station name to finding it on the map right now. Good for finding the next closest rare to where you currently are, though.
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I used this free online tool.
http://beno.org.uk/metromapcreator/#

Diso is missing - well spotted - that is an error! there are also one or two stops that need amending that no longer sell rares (system flipped).

There are a few things that are slated for the next update.

* Distances on the lines between each stop.
* Rares buy/sell/avg price
* Cleaned up Hi Res version

I am also thinking about putting it onto a grid, which would help in finding stations from the list. I want to avoid trying to put all the info on here, because it is designed to be used alongside other tools, not as a stand alone tool. But there is a good balance to be had there.

It's never really meant to be a 'map' as such, but an aide/planner. So for instance, the current CG, when you work out where you are, you can easily see a number of Rares sites that you can detour to.

But your feedback is gold! :)

BACKER #-4112 said:
This map seem to have evolved since I saw this thread last, how I haven't subbed is beyond me.
Good work.
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Yeah thanks, I managed to tidy things up and check some of the data enough to put it out as v1.0!
 
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Drownerfood

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I think a 2x2 or 3x3 grid would be fine, just something to get you looking the right area. I finally found cherbones and it was across the map from where i was looking.
 

Limoncello Lizard

Limoncello Lizard
Count said:
there are also one or two stops that need amending that no longer sell rares (system flipped).
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If you know of any recently blocked rare goods, can you please let us know at the Community Activity to Liberate Rare Trade Commodities thread.
We are currently working to get Gilya Signature Weapons back on the market, our next goal is Indi Bourbon.
We also know about Wolf Fesh and Borasetani Parthogenics. Plus there are rumours of a couple of "unknown" rare goods that we may get around to trying to liberate.
 

Count

Count
Limoncello Lizard said:
If you know of any recently blocked rare goods, can you please let us know at the Community Activity to Liberate Rare Trade Commodities thread.
We are currently working to get Gilya Signature Weapons back on the market, our next goal is Indi Bourbon.
We also know about Wolf Fesh and Borasetani Parthogenics. Plus there are rumours of a couple of "unknown" rare goods that we may get around to trying to liberate.
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Yeah nice work on that!
 

Limoncello Lizard

Limoncello Lizard
Far from done yet. I'm guessing that it will take at least another 2 weeks.
It's more work than any CG that I've been involved with, and without the financial rewards.
 

Drownerfood

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Ok, so Heike seems to be in the opposite quadrant from where it actually is, along with Helvetitj and Vidavanta. This is quite confusing when trying to make a route between the different y-axis/color levels. I'm guessing a sign error on the coordinates did it, but there could be others that are off too.

Edit: did more looking and it seems the whole orange level of systems is mirrored from where it should be along the x=z plane. This isn't too obvious around Lave, but everywhere else the systems are across the bubble from where they should be.
 
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Count
Still lots of good feedback.

I will be revisiting some of the sites in the coming weeks to carry out tests and check the data, allignment and placing of stops, preparing for aligning them closer to a grid.

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Limoncello Lizard said:
Far from done yet. I'm guessing that it will take at least another 2 weeks.
It's more work than any CG that I've been involved with, and without the financial rewards.
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No but Galactic Kudos points surely? :cool:
 
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Count
Drownerfood said:
Ok, so Heike seems to be in the opposite quadrant from where it actually is, along with Helvetitj and Vidavanta. This is quite confusing when trying to make a route between the different y-axis/color levels. I'm guessing a sign error on the coordinates did it, but there could be others that are off too.

Edit: did more looking and it seems the whole orange level of systems is mirrored from where it should be along the x=z plane. This isn't too obvious around Lave, but everywhere else the systems are across the bubble from where they should be.
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There does seem to have been an odd axis flip... rotated along a diagonal axis...

You deserve a prize for spotting that!

This is why I want to place a grid on the map...
 

Drownerfood

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Count said:
There does seem to have been an odd axis flip... rotated along a diagonal axis...

You deserve a prize for spotting that!

This is why I want to place a grid on the map...
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Well, if you get it fixed the map will be easier to use.
Prize? Gimmie Gimmie! :D
 

Count

Count
Drownerfood said:
Well, if you get it fixed the map will be easier to use.
Prize? Gimmie Gimmie! :D
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Haha yeah some Rares are coming your way!

I hope you didn't spend too long examining it closely, it can send you screwey, trying to translate things to the galaxy map with only a fleet of sidewinders is not funny!
 

Drownerfood

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Nah, just took 5 minutes to figure out the orange level was flipped. I'd been trying to use it for the last CG and it hadn't worked out quite right, so I looked at some other systems and realized what was wrong. It was easy if you zoom out so that the 100Ly map grid shows up, easy to see the quadrants then.
Have you used the rares system tool? It's handy, and has all the coordinates, prices, allocations to compare with.
 

Count

Count
Drownerfood said:
Nah, just took 5 minutes to figure out the orange level was flipped. I'd been trying to use it for the last CG and it hadn't worked out quite right, so I looked at some other systems and realized what was wrong. It was easy if you zoom out so that the 100Ly map grid shows up, easy to see the quadrants then.
Have you used the rares system tool? It's handy, and has all the coordinates, prices, allocations to compare with.
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The first version I used the Galaxy map and my Sidey Fleet... :rolleyes:

But for the current one I used this tool;
http://eliterares.toolset.io/

There is some kind of weird inversion along a diagonal axis going on.

I also downloaded a nice Excel sheet. I will be using these to check the coords and then form a basis to put them on a grid (still not exactly in place to avoid it being a plate of spaghetti) and it will look the same, but different lol!

Back to the drawing board. If it survives the two sustained volleys from my fists so far! [haha]

What you say is exactly how I intend to use it, and I did use it successfully for the Heike tea run. It was easier for me because I have them 'bookmarked' so I can see immediately where CGs are near. At a stroke I could see the area around Whichhaul, and with so little effort was bringing some nice profitable hauls back with me.

I have to say in that instance it did work a treat, but also reminded me there was info missing (Rares prices and distances between stops)

Appreciate the feedback! There will be a V2 in the next [insert reasonable time allowing for rl and using a differetn method...] soon!!
 

jimbeau1571

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This is a great map ... great work Count.

Even printed an A3 version off in work.
Look forward to the next update. (PDF in the OP is still showing Diso as missing and Witchaul mispelt, but you probably know this lol).
Top drawer this.
 

GTwannabe

GTwannabe
One day, someone will successfully reverse engineer Xihe Biomorphic Sexbots, rendering slaves obsolete. Get while the getting's good!
 
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