Horizons Recover Structural Regulators mission is making me crazy.... :)

[SuperDave1426]

I've gotten the mission to recover two Structural Regulators, and just can't seem to find any. I went to the system that I was directed to, used the discovery scanner to find the planet I needed to go to, and then went there. Found a marker called "Search Location Wrecked Ship" (or something similar, can't remember the exact words here...), and tracked it down. When you get close, the marker moves to another location, so follow it there. Eventually it just changes to "Wrecked Ship" (or something to that effect) and doesn't move. And in fact there is a wreck there, with a few items that can be cargo-scooped up. But they're always just materials - never the regulators. I've gone from place to place, low-and-slow, while doing the search just to make sure there wasn't something visible on the ground near where a given marker had been (while tracking it down).

I've left the planet and returned, repeated the process, and no regulators at the wreck location. I've even jumped out of the system and come back, then gone to the planet and repeated the process. But the $#@!ing Structural Regulators are never at the Wreck location.

What am I missing here?

 

[Chris Rosenkreutz]

Sounds like a bug. I just had a recover 9 structural regulators mission and there were only 6 at the crash site. I relogged, went through the searching again and found 6 more at an identical crash site at exactly the same location. It looks like we get less for some reason and with 2 that means the impossible 0.

 

[SuperDave1426]

Well, isn't that just... swell. [sad]

I hope that FD is aware of this bug and is working on getting out a fix soon. Thanks for the info. Guess when I next login, I'll quit wasting my time with this one and just abandon it since it can't be completed. <sigh> Guess I won't be taking any more "retrieve" missions until they get this fixed.

Thanks for the info. Glad to know I'm not just going crazy.

 

[Iron Orchid]

Well, isn't that just... swell. [sad]

I hope that FD is aware of this bug and is working on getting out a fix soon. Thanks for the info. Guess when I next login, I'll quit wasting my time with this one and just abandon it since it can't be completed. <sigh> Guess I won't be taking any more "retrieve" missions until they get this fixed.

Thanks for the info. Glad to know I'm not just going crazy.

They will know if you post a bug report?

 

[Shemuev]

I've gotten the mission to recover two Structural Regulators, and just can't seem to find any. I went to the system that I was directed to, used the discovery scanner to find the planet I needed to go to, and then went there. Found a marker called "Search Location Wrecked Ship" (or something similar, can't remember the exact words here...), and tracked it down. When you get close, the marker moves to another location, so follow it there. Eventually it just changes to "Wrecked Ship" (or something to that effect) and doesn't move. And in fact there is a wreck there, with a few items that can be cargo-scooped up. But they're always just materials - never the regulators. I've gone from place to place, low-and-slow, while doing the search just to make sure there wasn't something visible on the ground near where a given marker had been (while tracking it down).

I've left the planet and returned, repeated the process, and no regulators at the wreck location. I've even jumped out of the system and come back, then gone to the planet and repeated the process. But the $#@!ing Structural Regulators are never at the Wreck location.

What am I missing here?

I've same problem

 

[SuperDave1426]

They will know if you post a bug report?

Good point. I've submitted a bug report.

 

[GG7]

You CAN complete these. I do them all the time but...

These seem to be bugged in the number of canisters that are on the surface at a time. I have NEVER been able to collect all the required number the first time because there is always one or two missing.

What you need to do, is collect what is there, then leave the planet and go back into SC, then circle back to the crash site and land again. When you deploy your SRV for the second time, you should find all the stuff respawned. Then you can collect the few missing ones and complete the mission.

I've never encountered a site that didn't have any canisters, but I would assume that if you tried the above technique it should spawn a new batch. If you do all this and there is still nothing there, then obviously that particular site is fatally bugged. But that doesn't mean that all of them are that bad, cause they aren't. As I said, I do these every day I play and have always been able to complete the dozens I have accepted.

P.S. You don't need to go too far from the planet in SC. Just high enough to almost be out of orbital cruise, then turn around and head back down to the site. I hope they fix this, because at the moment it is pretty unrealistic game mechanics. ALL the required canisters should be there the first time, or they should direct you to a second location to find the few missing ones.

 

[SuperDave1426]

@GG7:
I mean no disrespect here, but did you actually read my original posting in this thread? I've done everything you suggested. Multiple times. Over two days. The other items (material type) show up at the Wreck site just fine. The items that are actually the mission objective, however (in this case, Structural Regulators), do not. Ever. Not once.

It's bugged.

Also, when I posted the bug report about this, someone from Frontier posted a reply saying that this is a known problem and that they're working on fixing it as soon as they can. So, see above regarding "it's bugged."

Edit: Yes, I agree with you that not all of them are bugged. I've done one other retrieval prior to this where one of two items was missing, so I did the leave-and-come-back thing to get the other one. But even that indicates a bug, since you're supposed to find the missing items at the search site and it shouldn't be necessary for you to do the leave-and-come-back thing. But at least it works while they're working out the kinks in it. But in the case of the one that I've reported, there are none to be found, even after multiple visits to the site. So this one has a mission-breaking bug.

Anyway, like I said, Frontier has indicated that they know about it and are working on it. But I'm still not going to take any more missions involving retrievals until they've got it fixed. I don't like not knowing which ones are going to let me complete them and which ones are broken, and I don't want to waste my time on the ones that are.

 

[SMcA]

I've gotten the mission to recover two Structural Regulators, and just can't seem to find any. I went to the system that I was directed to, used the discovery scanner to find the planet I needed to go to, and then went there. Found a marker called "Search Location Wrecked Ship" (or something similar, can't remember the exact words here...), and tracked it down. When you get close, the marker moves to another location, so follow it there. Eventually it just changes to "Wrecked Ship" (or something to that effect) and doesn't move. And in fact there is a wreck there, with a few items that can be cargo-scooped up. But they're always just materials - never the regulators. I've gone from place to place, low-and-slow, while doing the search just to make sure there wasn't something visible on the ground near where a given marker had been (while tracking it down).

I've left the planet and returned, repeated the process, and no regulators at the wreck location. I've even jumped out of the system and come back, then gone to the planet and repeated the process. But the $#@!ing Structural Regulators are never at the Wreck location.

What am I missing here?

It told me to find them at a signal source. I spent hours ignoring the wreck location on the planet. Grrr!

 

[GG7]

@GG7:
I mean no disrespect here, but did you actually read my original posting in this thread? I've done everything you suggested. Multiple times. Over two days. The other items (material type) show up at the Wreck site just fine. The items that are actually the mission objective, however (in this case, Structural Regulators), do not. Ever. Not once.

It's bugged.

I DID READ your entire post, and if you read ALL of mine you would see where I said that if you still come up with ZERO at a specific site, then perhaps that one is bugged, BUT not all of them are. I have a dozens of these completed and paid for under my belt to prove that.

They still have issues, but they are not so bugged that you can't do them. I have yet to encounter one like you describe where nothing is there even after repeated visits to the site as described above.

 

[SuperDave1426]

I DID READ your entire post, and if you read ALL of mine you would see where I said that if you still come up with ZERO at a specific site, then perhaps that one is bugged, BUT not all of them are. I have a dozens of these completed and paid for under my belt to prove that.

Yup, and I acknowledged that. That's what the "Yes, I agree with you that not all of them are bugged." part of my reply indicated.

They still have issues, but they are not so bugged that you can't do them. I have yet to encounter one like you describe where nothing is there even after repeated visits to the site as described above.

Lucky you. Wish I had your luck. In my original post in this thread, I've just documented for you a case where it does in fact happen. And Frontier has acknowledged this as being known and are working on it. In my bug report, I specifically stated that I'm getting NONE. Zero. Nada. Nothing. They didn't say anything along the lines of "Wow, we know about a bug on this but you should at least get some part of it," they said that it was a known issue and they were working on it. So I've even gotten an acknowledgement from them about it. I don't know why you keep insisting that it's impossible for it to happen and that I must just be doing it wrong. I've done every single step you suggested (and my original post listed all those steps, which was why I wasn't sure you read the whole message when you suggested steps that I'd already stated as having been done). So yeah, lucky me; I got to be one of the people who ran into this particular aspect of a bug that FD has acknowledged.

By all means, keep doing those recovery missions; I never suggested that you should stop. Or that anybody else should stop, for that matter. But I only need to run into one of them and waste two days trying to get the items with no success to convince me that I'm not interested in doing any more recovery missions until they get them fixed. Your choice, based on your personal experiences with it, is to keep doing them. More power to you. However, you need to acknowledge that not everyone playing the game is going to have the exact same experience. My experience has been that on one that I did, I wasted two days looking for something that's simply not showing up, no matter how many times I leave and return, and now I'll get to deal with rep loss with the faction and fine when the mission auto-fails because I never brought them the items they requested. So for me, I'm not willing to chance it. One time was one time too many.

Your experience has clearly been different from mine. So keep doing those missions to your heart's content. I wish you many happy successful missions (yes, really ). Me, I'm gonna wait for them to fix the bug before I do any more, 'cause I'm not willing to take the chance that I'll hit another unsolvable one.

And that's the last I plan to say on the subject here. FD has acknowledged the bug in my bug report and have indicated that they're working on it, so that's the important part. Debating with you on whether or not I ran into the problem that I ran into isn't going to solve anything.

 

[[VR] Deggial]

Have you tried to simply log out and in again? It is less time consuming and - in case of a bug-workaround - a legit action.

I've done only one of these missions, so my data base is a bit more on the smaller side.
However, in this one incidence, the POI was really colse to the "original" one (though not identical) and it was easy to find it with the SRV's wave scanner and drive to it.

By the way, some "fun trivia": I've read that the missing canisters do exist but are located beneath the planet's surface, unreachable for the player. I really don't know how people can find out stuff like this. Maybe due to the other bug, where the SRV is located subterrain when logging in on the surface?

 

[SuperDave1426]

Have you tried to simply log out and in again? It is less time consuming and - in case of a bug-workaround - a legit action.

Oh yeah, over the course of the last few days (yesterday I gave it one final try, and then flew away; not going to stay anchored to that planet any longer) I've been logged in and out. I don't leave the game running 24 hour per day. So yeah, while that sometimes works, it didn't in this case.

I've done only one of these missions, so my data base is a bit more on the smaller side.
However, in this one incidence, the POI was really colse to the "original" one (though not identical) and it was easy to find it with the SRV's wave scanner and drive to it.

I wasn't thinking in those terms, but I did drive around a bit after grabbing the stuff that was there, thinking along the lines of "maybe it rolled down that hill," which I've seen some of the canisters do. No lock, unfortunately.

By the way, some "fun trivia": I've read that the missing canisters do exist but are located beneath the planet's surface, unreachable for the player. I really don't know how people can find out stuff like this. Maybe due to the other bug, where the SRV is located subterrain when logging in on the surface?

Yikes! I'm glad I haven't run into that one! I did have one case where I logged out while my ship was in close proximity to the planet. Not in orbital cruise mode, just cruising around, under 500m altitude. When I logged back in later that day, my ship was still where I left it, but it was completely frozen! I could headlook around the cockpit, but it didn't respond to any motion controls. I had to log out, then log back in to just Dangerous (without Horizons; I'm so glad that option is given in the launcher) so that it would force me into low orbit around the planet. Then I logged out and back into Horizons and was able to re-approach the planet. Fun stuff.... lol

 

[skurvenyzmrd]

I really don't know how people can find out stuff like this. Maybe due to the other bug, where the SRV is located subterrain when logging in on the surface?

switch to external camera while in SRV, you can now take a peek below planet surface

 

[GG7]

switch to external camera while in SRV, you can now take a peek below planet surface

I FINALLY found one of these sites without ANY canisters!

It was in a very uneven area and the wreckage was right up against a hillside. There was a couple of ship parts on the ground including a cargo rack, but not a single cargo canister. The mission was to retrieve Structural Regulators as well, so not sure if this bug is limited to just that one cargo type.

Anyway... For me this is a very rare event, since this is my 38th mission of this type and the first time I have come upon one like this. I concur with the theory that the canisters are underground and thus not visible or obtainable. I tried the camera trick, but didn't see any close by.

I have previously encountered Skimmers that pop out of the ground and then go back under the ground where you can't shoot them. Have seen that about three times so far, and I suspect these are all related to some kind of bug in collision detection. (The game doesn't know where the surface is in these areas).

All you can do is abort the mission and hope that the next one is on a flatter surface and the canisters are sitting on the surface. You will likely still run into the missing canister bug, and have to visit twice to complete. Those missing canisters could very well be under the surface also, since I have searched a good distance around some of these sites for the missing ones, and never found a single one.

 

[skurvenyzmrd]

I FINALLY found one of these sites without ANY canisters!

It was in a very uneven area and the wreckage was right up against a hillside. There was a couple of ship parts on the ground including a cargo rack, but not a single cargo canister. The mission was to retrieve Structural Regulators as well, so not sure if this bug is limited to just that one cargo type.

Anyway... For me this is a very rare event, since this is my 38th mission of this type and the first time I have come upon one like this. I concur with the theory that the canisters are underground and thus not visible or obtainable. I tried the camera trick, but didn't see any close by.

I have previously encountered Skimmers that pop out of the ground and then go back under the ground where you can't shoot them. Have seen that about three times so far, and I suspect these are all related to some kind of bug in collision detection. (The game doesn't know where the surface is in these areas).

All you can do is abort the mission and hope that the next one is on a flatter surface and the canisters are sitting on the surface. You will likely still run into the missing canister bug, and have to visit twice to complete. Those missing canisters could very well be under the surface also, since I have searched a good distance around some of these sites for the missing ones, and never found a single one.

i did 2 of these missions, both failed to deliver structural regulators. so not bothering with them anymore. rest of the missions have worked flawlessly for me so far, plenty to choose from fortunately.

 

[GG7]

i did 2 of these missions, both failed to deliver structural regulators. so not bothering with them anymore. rest of the missions have worked flawlessly for me so far, plenty to choose from fortunately.

I just completed another one of these with the Structural Regulators and the canisters were there, although as usual 1 of them was missing so I had to leave and return to complete. This site was on totally flat terrain, so I am pretty sure that the bug only effects the ones that are on uneven terrain.

 

[SuperDave1426]

[...] It was in a very uneven area and the wreckage was right up against a hillside. There was a couple of ship parts on the ground including a cargo rack, but not a single cargo canister. The mission was to retrieve Structural Regulators as well, so not sure if this bug is limited to just that one cargo type. [...]

Yup, that's exactly the same as the one that was giving me grief. Uneven ground, ship parts, a cargo rack that I could shoot to get the cargo out of it to scoop up, a couple of other material canisters, and that was it. Not a Structural Regulator to be found.

I do hope they get it fixed soon.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Dont forget canisters can roll away on uneven terrain. In those cases, use the SRV scanner. Did two dozen or so of them, finished them all with no issues.

 

[gmcraib]

So I have this mission, in 2024!
Recently back to the game and not done a lot of SRV stuff before, certainly no missions.

I took this one not realising it was a surface mission but decided to give it a go.

Actually picked up SRV driving again not too bad, certainly reminded myself of what I knew before and some more.

Anyways got this one and eventually figured out what to do and collected 7/8. No problem you must have to shoot that intact cansiter I tried to collect and just ended up ramming it

Got some materials but no canister!

Went to another site but quickly realised wasn’t welcome there…
Had some flashbacks from before of that type of encounter, hostile in this system anyway so decided not to engage the drones.

Went into super cruise and back to mission site. The canister was detected from my ship a few km from landing. Great!
Was a bit worried about it being below the surface but have landed and there are loads of them!! So it must have reset.
Bit annoying.

Have to also say putting the canisters amongst wreckage that a vehicle that likes to get stuck has to climb over or through was not great. Did get stuck a couple of times but managed to wriggle/boost clear.
Didn’t have to relog, this time.

So picked up the first canister and it still says 7/8???
Then picked up 3 more (one of which wouldn’t scoop because it wasn’t targeted at the time). Checked again and it then said 11/8 but it hasn’t completed the mission??

Yeah logged back in and crash site now gone. Still 11/8 in mission, still no completion and now no mission specific crash site.
I might try scanning again or just assume it has completed flag and see if that is reflected at the station…

No, I’m an idiot… Read the mission again and you have to take them to a different site.

Sorry dev’s, my bad. But still.

Mission completed, it now says I have 3 stolen structural regulators.