Reptile/Reptile House Pack

The idea of a scenery pack centred around reptiles and reptile houses has floated around for a while, and I've become more and more fond of it over time to the point it's now among my favourite pack ideas. In fact, I'd probably say it's the single scenery pack concept I think has the most potential, both due to boosting representation of a group of animals currently lacking in diversity (habitat reptiles) and having great potential for extremely useful scenery pieces. Below is my personal optimal roster:

1. West African Slender-snouted Crocodile (Mecistops cataphractus) - Africa is the only remaining continent inhabited by crocodilians that currently lacks a species from the order, and so this is the perfect opportunity to finally fill that region hole in the roster. Given we've now gotten 3 members of the Alligatoridae, it's also about time we got another true crocodile. While the Nile crocodile is both more famous and common in zoos, the West African slender-snouted crocodile has my preference due to being significantly more distinct from the saltwater crocodile we already have, looking almost like an intermediate between the saltie and the gharial thanks to their namesake snout. They also have strong conservation value as a critically endangered species.

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2. Pig-nosed Turtle (Carettochelys insculpta) - This would be the headliner of this hypothetical DLC, both because of its marketable appearance and because it is the animal in the pack most distinct from the reptiles we already have in the game. The pignose is one of the best options for a freshwater turtle that's suitable to being kept in a habitat, given both its relatively large size and the fact it is a very active swimmer (which can't be said for the more popular alligator snapping turtle, which is virtually a living statue). While they'd be among the most aquatic animals added to the game so far, they are still capable of moving on land (albeit very slowly) so they wouldn't require any new mechanics.

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3. Radiated Tortoise (Astrochelys radiata) - It's a really tough pick between this species and the equally awesome African spurred tortoise, but I've chosen to go with the radiated tortoise here given it would be a huge plus for taxonomic representation in Madagascar (given all it has for now are lemurs). It also contrasts more with the two giant tortoises we currently have in the game through its small size and beautiful colouration, and also adds a second critically endangered species to the pack. In any case, most agree it's about time we got a new tortoise.

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4. Lace Monitor (Varanus varius) - A reptile pack wouldn't be complete without a new habitat lizard (almost went with two lizards instead of another tortoise), and for me personally the species I'd like to see the most is the lace monitor. While we already have two varanid species in PZ, the lacey brings something new to the table as an arboreal species - the first climbing habitat reptile in the game - and also through being an Australian member of the family (which is fairly necessary given varanids are one of the continent's dominant predator groups, more so than anywhere else). Additionally, they're a rare case of a potential habitat lizard suitable for the temperate biome tag (alongside tropical and grassland) given the species extends far down into the temperate south-east of Australia.

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5. King Cobra (Ophiophagus hannah) - The options for exhibit species in a reptile pack are virtually endless, and all sorts of species are very deserving of this spot; a chameleon, gecko, the tuatara, frilled lizard, green anaconda, sheltopusik, the list goes on and on. However, I've decided to go with the king cobra, for this pack feels like it needs a snake to properly round out the reptile roster (sorry Rhynchocephalia) and this is one of the most iconic species currently missing from the roster. It'd also be the first exhibit reptile in the game that's properly representative of Asia given the puff adder only marginally extends onto the continent.

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As big of an animal person I am, a Reptile/Reptile House Pack could potentially be one of the few cases where I'm just as, if not more, excited for the new scenery as I am for the animals, and this is for one very big reason - if there's any pack that should introduce a great variety of new faux pieces, it's this one. Given reptile houses are, by definition, indoor spaces, they often rely heavily on things like fake rocks, rockwalls, plants, branches, vines etc to make enclosures look as nice and natural as possible, and therefore I'd hope we'd get a great variety of such items here. Other options for scenery pieces include new landscape backdrops (similar to the river and polar landscape ones we got in the aquatic pack, but hopefully a little less cartoony), heat lamps, perhaps some new glass panels as well as just generally more items suited for use in an indoor setting.

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As much as I like this idea, I feel like it's fairly unlikely to actually happen as reptiles are generally just not animals that are on Frontier's radar (aside from crocodilians I guess) and they may not want to risk making a pack without cute and fluffy mammals.
 
Always love a good reptile house idea, I tend to make reptile houses myself but always find myself using the same old animals again and again. Exhibit reptiles are in a rather dire condition with a lot of focus on arid/desert varieties leaving rainforest or temperate reptile houses pretty much empty. Sadly I agree that reptile packs are likely never gonna happen but one can hope, that being said the slender snouted crocodile and the radiated tortoise would be fantastic to have
 
I've been thinking of a similar reptile DLC and I think it would be an amazing addition. I love the ideas for items, but I'd pick some larger species for habitat animals:
  • Nile crocodile
  • African spurred tortoise
  • Asian softshell turtle
  • perentie

I think the idea is unusual but could work with good marketing and perhaps some changes regarding the 'traditional' exhibits.
  • Perhaps it would be an option to have more than one exhibit species this time (since we miss so many key reptilles).
  • The free update should come with more customisability for exhibits (i.e. having them boxless).
 
I love this.
Im a big fan of well thought out pack idears and this is one of the best in quite a while.
And its also quite the smart one, adding imo quite realistic options in a sneak oceania and madagascar expansion with 2 realistic animals that dont need new riggs and add good to the game from africa, aswell as a new climbing monitor rigg and the pig nosed turtle for australia.
Its moddest, but high quality, which is what feels most realistic.

Id say this is a near perfect concept, frontier im sure chudditch wouldnt mind you guys stealing it!
 
Also imagine if this was accompanied by an iguna update making them both exhibit and habitat animals.
Our reptile house possibilitys would sky rocket and add 2 "new" reptiles from a completly new taxa to the americas aswell.

Overall this pack would go well with the reptile update i lined out inthe update thread from about a month ago
 
As a reptile enthusiast, I would adore a reptile-focused DLC. Because of the large number of reptiles suited for exhibits, I would do an even split of four habitat reptiles and four exhibit reptiles.
  • Nile Crocodile
  • Green Sea Turtle
  • Asian Water Monitor
  • Alligator Snapping Turtle
  • King Cobra
  • Chinese Crocodile Lizard
  • Northern Caiman Lizard
  • Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle
 
As a reptile enthusiast, I would adore a reptile-focused DLC. Because of the large number of reptiles suited for exhibits, I would do an even split of four habitat reptiles and four exhibit reptiles.
  • Nile Crocodile
  • Green Sea Turtle
  • Asian Water Monitor
  • Alligator Snapping Turtle
  • King Cobra
  • Chinese Crocodile Lizard
  • Northern Caiman Lizard
  • Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle
Isn't the sea turtle more of an aquarium centric Animal, an impressive lagoon tank is probably the last thing I'd expect in a reptile house
 
I would prefer a new model of pack for a reptile DLC. Less habitat animals and more exhibit animals than usual:

  • Nile crocodile
  • African spurred tortoise
  • Perentie or lace monitor
  • A chameleon (e)
  • King Cobra (e)
  • Greek tortoise (e)
  • Tuatara (e)
  • Leopard gecko (e)
  • Green anaconda (e)
  • Plumed basilisk (e)

And I can still think of other exhibit reptiles
 
As a reptile enthusiast, I would adore a reptile-focused DLC. Because of the large number of reptiles suited for exhibits, I would do an even split of four habitat reptiles and four exhibit reptiles.
  • Nile Crocodile
  • Green Sea Turtle
  • Asian Water Monitor
  • Alligator Snapping Turtle
  • King Cobra
  • Chinese Crocodile Lizard
  • Northern Caiman Lizard
  • Roti Island Snake-Necked Turtle
Yeah that was my idea as well. To make a mixed pack with 4 habitat animals and 4 exhibits, but my picks would be:

Habitat:
1. Nile crocodile
2. Arrau river turtle
3. African spurred tortoise
4. Perentie

Exhibits:
1. Any cobra (preference king cobra)
2. Any gecko (preference tokay gecko)
3. Any chameleon (preference for Jackson's or panther)
4. Another turtle (preference for Alligator snapping turtle or Mata mata)
 
I’d also love for this pack to have multiple exhibit species of course (as I mentioned, the options are virtually endless for reptiles), but for this concept I decided to avoid that level of speculation and keep the animal choices in line with what we can currently expect from a scenery pack (4+1). Including an additional three exhibit species though, I’d choose the Tuatara (Sphenodon punctatus), Tokay Gecko (Gekko gecko) and Green Tree Python (Morelia viridis). I know not including a chameleon is a crime but even with 4 exhibit species there’d be lots left out.

Also imagine if this was accompanied by an iguna update making them both exhibit and habitat animals.
I’d also hope that the free update would finally add deep diving for the Nile monitor! Originally this pack included the northern caiman lizard as a second habitat lizard, so updating the semi-aquatic lizard we already have would be a good alternative.
 
Regarding Chameleons, i stand by that why would you want an exhibit chameleon when this bad boy exists
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I swear if they will give us the parsons chameleon as a habitat animal (as they should) im gonna be satisfied no matter what else would be in the pack. Having a cat size arboreal reptile that is this unique would be the best thing to happen to this game i can imagine
 
I must admit of all the animal choices in the game as it stands, some of the reptile choices do baffle me with how they've been selected and implemented.

I know people who favour the "we should only have animals that actually appear regularly in zoos" approach dislike it, but I still maintain Marine Iguana would make for an interesting and unique habitat animal.

I don't particularly think another crocodilian is a priority right now due to how similar they largely are visually, but personally Nile is just too famous to leave out if they were gonna add another.

We definitely need a cobra and a chameleon. I'd favour King or Spectacled and Panther respectively. A gecko would be good too - tokay or leopard probably.

I also think we need a coral snake species.
 
Habitat:
1. Nile crocodile
2. Arrau river turtle
3. African spurred tortoise
4. Perentie
  • Nile crocodile
  • African spurred tortoise
  • Perentie or lace monitor
  • A chameleon (e)
  • King Cobra (e)
  • Greek tortoise (e)
  • Tuatara (e)
  • Leopard gecko (e)
  • Green anaconda (e)
  • Plumed basilisk (e)
I've been thinking of a similar reptile DLC and I think it would be an amazing addition. I love the ideas for items, but I'd pick some larger species for habitat animals:
  • Nile crocodile
  • African spurred tortoise
  • Asian softshell turtle
  • perentie
Looking at some of the Replies made me think that the Composition of a Reptile DLC would largely depend on the Type and Theme of the Pack. If it is precisely a Reptile House Pack, then it should solely focus on Species that are almost always exhibited indoors. But if it is more Generic, for instance a Reptile Animal Pack with no Theme, then it could include things like the Sulcata Tortoise and Nile Crocodile.

The idea of a scenery pack centred around reptiles and reptile houses has floated around for a while, and I've become more and more fond of it over time to the point it's now among my favourite pack ideas. In fact, I'd probably say it's the single scenery pack concept I think has the most potential, both due to boosting representation of a group of animals currently lacking in diversity (habitat reptiles) and having great potential for extremely useful scenery pieces. Below is my personal optimal roster:

1. West African Slender-snouted Crocodile (Mecistops cataphractus) - Africa is the only remaining continent inhabited by crocodilians that currently lacks a species from the order, and so this is the perfect opportunity to finally fill that region hole in the roster. Given we've now gotten 3 members of the Alligatoridae, it's also about time we got another true crocodile. While the Nile crocodile is both more famous and common in zoos, the West African slender-snouted crocodile has my preference due to being significantly more distinct from the saltwater crocodile we already have, looking almost like an intermediate between the saltie and the gharial thanks to their namesake snout. They also have strong conservation value as a critically endangered species.

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2. Pig-nosed Turtle (Carettochelys insculpta) - This would be the headliner of this hypothetical DLC, both because of its marketable appearance and because it is the animal in the pack most distinct from the reptiles we already have in the game. The pignose is one of the best options for a freshwater turtle that's suitable to being kept in a habitat, given both its relatively large size and the fact it is a very active swimmer (which can't be said for the more popular alligator snapping turtle, which is virtually a living statue). While they'd be among the most aquatic animals added to the game so far, they are still capable of moving on land (albeit very slowly) so they wouldn't require any new mechanics.

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3. Radiated Tortoise (Astrochelys radiata) - It's a really tough pick between this species and the equally awesome African spurred tortoise, but I've chosen to go with the radiated tortoise here given it would be a huge plus for taxonomic representation in Madagascar (given all it has for now are lemurs). It also contrasts more with the two giant tortoises we currently have in the game through its small size and beautiful colouration, and also adds a second critically endangered species to the pack. In any case, most agree it's about time we got a new tortoise.

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4. Lace Monitor (Varanus varius) - A reptile pack wouldn't be complete without a new habitat lizard (almost went with two lizards instead of another tortoise), and for me personally the species I'd like to see the most is the lace monitor. While we already have two varanid species in PZ, the lacey brings something new to the table as an arboreal species - the first climbing habitat reptile in the game - and also through being an Australian member of the family (which is fairly necessary given varanids are one of the continent's dominant predator groups, more so than anywhere else). Additionally, they're a rare case of a potential habitat lizard suitable for the temperate biome tag (alongside tropical and grassland) given the species extends far down into the temperate south-east of Australia.

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5. King Cobra (Ophiophagus hannah) - The options for exhibit species in a reptile pack are virtually endless, and all sorts of species are very deserving of this spot; a chameleon, gecko, the tuatara, frilled lizard, green anaconda, sheltopusik, the list goes on and on. However, I've decided to go with the king cobra, for this pack feels like it needs a snake to properly round out the reptile roster (sorry Rhynchocephalia) and this is one of the most iconic species currently missing from the roster. It'd also be the first exhibit reptile in the game that's properly representative of Asia given the puff adder only marginally extends onto the continent.

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As big of an animal person I am, a Reptile/Reptile House Pack could potentially be one of the few cases where I'm just as, if not more, excited for the new scenery as I am for the animals, and this is for one very big reason - if there's any pack that should introduce a great variety of new faux pieces, it's this one. Given reptile houses are, by definition, indoor spaces, they often rely heavily on things like fake rocks, rockwalls, plants, branches, vines etc to make enclosures look as nice and natural as possible, and therefore I'd hope we'd get a great variety of such items here. Other options for scenery pieces include new landscape backdrops (similar to the river and polar landscape ones we got in the aquatic pack, but hopefully a little less cartoony), heat lamps, perhaps some new glass panels as well as just generally more items suited for use in an indoor setting.

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As much as I like this idea, I feel like it's fairly unlikely to actually happen as reptiles are generally just not animals that are on Frontier's radar (aside from crocodilians I guess) and they may not want to risk making a pack without cute and fluffy mammals.
This is why I think the OP's Pack Idea and Roster delivers more because of its Animal Choices being perfect for a more specific Reptile House Theme. The other more Popular choices like Sulcata and Nile Crocodile can always feature in other Packs with different Classes anyway, or they would still be perfect for a generic Reptile Animal Pack.
 
Looking at some of the Replies made me think that the Composition of a Reptile DLC would largely depend on the Type and Theme of the Pack. If it is precisely a Reptile House Pack, then it should solely focus on Species that are almost always exhibited indoors. But if it is more Generic, for instance a Reptile Animal Pack with no Theme, then it could include things like the Sulcata Tortoise and Nile Crocodile.


This is why I think the OP's Pack Idea and Roster delivers more because of its Animal Choices being perfect for a more specific Reptile House Theme. The other more Popular choices like Sulcata and Nile Crocodile can always feature in other Packs with different Classes anyway, or they would still be perfect for a generic Reptile Animal Pack.
Coming from a temperate region, pretty much all reptiles are indoor species to me. If my memory serves me correctly, spurred tortoises and Nile crocodiles are housed at Antwerp's reptile house for instance.
 
Coming from a temperate region, pretty much all reptiles are indoor species to me. If my memory serves me correctly, spurred tortoises and Nile crocodiles are housed at Antwerp's reptile house for instance.
All reptiles are indeed kept indoors in Antwerp. They don't have nile crocodiles though but american alligators.
 
Coming from a temperate region, pretty much all reptiles are indoor species to me. If my memory serves me correctly, spurred tortoises and Nile crocodiles are housed at Antwerp's reptile house for instance.
There isn't a Rule against keeping them Indoors year-round. Many Zoos still do that. It makes things easier to manage. Others have Indoor and Outdoor Sections. But then you have some Species that need to be strictly kept Indoors. These are usually Tropical Species that never experience any Temperature Extremes in the wild, or they are Small Bodied. Nile Crocodiles for instance can inhabit places that experience Frost and Snowfall to a degree (both current and historic distribution). The Sahel, where Sulcatas are from, can also experience Near-Freezing Temperatures, so these guys also know their way around moderately Cooler Temperatures. However this doesn't mean you should throw them out in the Cold. Just gives you more Flexibility with Exhibit Design. It really comes down to what Practices each Zoo prefers, their Budget and whether Individual Animals have been subject to different Climes and Seasons over their Lifespan. But with many strictly Tropical Species, you don't have this Freedom. I was differentiating between the 2 Categories. I think a Reptile House Concept is better off with those that have no other Options.
 
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The entire PZ Community seems to be sleeping on argentine black&white tegus whenever habitat reptile come up. They are beautiful, super common in captivity and most importantly a realistic habitat lizard thats not a monitor for once :D.
Give those guys some love!
 
The entire PZ Community seems to be sleeping on argentine black&white tegus whenever habitat reptile come up. They are beautiful, super common in captivity and most importantly a realistic habitat lizard thats not a monitor for once :D.
Give those guys some love!
 
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