Fellow Republican. Glad to know you exist. You'll understand the concept of the dodge that criminals do to maintain their ability to make others suffer. All arguments against this are nothing other than that. But it's always funny watching a liberal being scammed by the criminal mentality. Criminals will confuse the issue with fallacy after fallacy. It takes someone with a backbone who can think straight to see through the deceit. FD has none of that. So the suffering will continue. Maybe FD needs to put in few admins called commander Trump who shows up when summoned by a commander who has been a victim of a griefer. That would be funny stuff.
Resolving the Griefer Issues
- Thread starter Hooplah
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Fellow Republican. Glad to know you exist. You'll understand the concept of the dodge that criminals do to maintain their ability to make others suffer. All arguments against this are nothing other than that. But it's always funny watching a liberal being scammed by the criminal mentality. Criminals will confuse the issue with fallacy after fallacy. It takes someone with a backbone who can think straight to see through the deceit. FD has none of that. So the suffering will continue. Maybe FD needs to put in few admins called commander Trump who shows up when summoned by a commander who has been a victim of a griefer. That would be funny stuff.
All you have to do is respect speed limits, griefers will not get you killed
Minonian
Banned
Heavier justice system and ban the absolutely unchangeable category out of open after that what they will do, is up to them. If this not happens? there are also things what we can do... I thinking about something like the fuel rats hotline, in case of griefer attacks. But when we talk about more peaceful community events, it's safe to say they will be around, so anybody wants to do some rabid animal hunt? Just go there and keep cruising.
They will bite! Only to recognize they got more what asked.
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First, mods can and do delete posts. Seen it done. Second, this isn't the answer. I don't know what is the answer, but this isn't it.
To the mods: feel free to close the thread. Already a threadnought for this topic.
Minonian
Banned
Than with all due respect?
What's the resolution? If you don't know a better one, than please don't stop the others to use and propagate an imperfect one. Even that is better than nothing. But one thing is true. To forcefully push towards PVP the game balance, is not the resolution. that's only useful for the griefers.
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Than with all due respect?
This isn't even an imperfect solution. People have already tried this on their own. Ever heard of Adle's Armada? What do you think they do all day? They interdict griefers with full WINGS of PvP combat fitted FDLs. And that still isn't a deterrent. You really think an in-game "moderator" would do anything? I am a fuel rat. Instancing problems alone make this "solution" not feasible. And that isn't even considering the lack of man-power. AND even the forum moderators mess up. Why do you think you are allowed to appeal a decision here? How do you propose that a decision made in game would get appealed? Fdev support? Because clogging their system with appeals is such a great idea (SARCASM!).
Not sure if you actually read my post, and the post I was replying to, because it seems that you didn't. Reading and understanding what you are replying to before you reply is quite helpful.
Nah too much work.
All they need to do is put player kills reported to any authorities into a database and keep track of the kills. If they break a certain threshold in a given amount of time, then things happen. Like once you have killed 10 commanders in the same system you can no longer by that ship back. Rebuy wont be possible. It will be tied to the ship that did the crime so sidewinder cop outs cant happen.
If they continue to do this time and time again in unprovocked attacks. then eventually they get hunted down relentlessly until they are killed. When they are killed all ships and credits are taken from the persons account.
Thats all that needs to be done. We dont let criminals keep all their money and assets in RL and there is no reason to do so in ED.
Well you know your idea is pretty typical republican thinking. Rather than address the basic inequities inherent in a system or hierarchy, you just hire more cops.
Hiring more cops almost never works, because it doesnt address the problem.
ROTFL! Well then you must also be a Republican since you know how well we think without even asking.
I'm all for "address the basic inequities inherent in a system or hierarchy". Since the game went online that has not happened nor does it appear there is any light at the end of the tunnel. So maybe another approach is worth a look. We could have game moderators enforcing the rules and Liberals shouting Police harassment and protesting at the System Authority checkpoints. Should be fun! The sneaky part is if there were game moderatiors then we would actually need RULES that address the basic inequalities for them to enforce. That is what threads like this are really all about.
Salute to everyone who intelligently discussed the issues as well as those more emotional about it. Lot's of great opinions have been offered and remember, if someone takes a shot at you personally then they typically don't have a valid response to your opinion. You win.
o7 from the OP
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ROTFL! Well then you must also be a Republican since you know how well we think without even asking.
I'm all for "address the basic inequities inherent in a system or hierarchy". Since the game went online that has not happened nor does it appear there is any light at the end of the tunnel. So maybe another approach is worth a look. We could have game moderators enforcing the rules and Liberals shouting Police harassment and protesting at the System Authority checkpoints. Should be fun! The sneaky part is if there were game moderations then we would actually need RULES that address the basic inequalities for them to enforce. That is what threads like this are really all about.
Salute to everyone who intelligently discussed the issues as well as those more emotional about it. Lot's of great opinions have been offered and remember, if someone takes a shot at you personally then they typically don't have a valid response to your opinion. You win.
o7 from the OP
I think we should build a wall to keep all the nice people inside
I think we should build a wall to keep all the nice people inside
Good idea, then the rest of us won't have to listen to their sanctimonious tosh
Simple. Prevent people from suicidewindering out of paying off gargantuan fines. That would be a start.
Making bounties major faction wide rather than just minor faction. That also would help.
But seriously, what's needed is a major overhaul of the crime and punishment system so that there are actual long term consequences to their actions. While at the same providing some sort of pvp 'arena' for big ships to offer an outlet for those who really like shooting at other commanders.
Making bounties major faction wide rather than just minor faction. That also would help.
But seriously, what's needed is a major overhaul of the crime and punishment system so that there are actual long term consequences to their actions. While at the same providing some sort of pvp 'arena' for big ships to offer an outlet for those who really like shooting at other commanders.
I would love to see a bloodsport gladitorial arena within the game where players were offered substantial financial rewards to offset losses. This arena could cater to wings, 1 v 1, etc.
People... can we please learn from history that unchecked power = corruption?
And what part of this game is a sandbox do people not understand?
Nomocracy was created precisely to get rid of absolute sovereigns and here we are trying to install them again...? Please stop the devolution.
And what part of this game is a sandbox do people not understand?
Nomocracy was created precisely to get rid of absolute sovereigns and here we are trying to install them again...? Please stop the devolution.
ED Arena is just that, is it not?
Dear lord no. Just no. We're talking about how to enhance Open and give some more meaning to PvP by allowing players to pit their ships, skills and wealth against one another in a context that actually matters. Arena was a bad idea that's turned into a worse joke.
Minonian
Banned
CQC Overhaul with ingame ships and loadout?