Modes Restrict or remove PvE from the game, making Open a nicer place

[StiTch]

See title.

What about having PvE in relegated areas? I mean it could be controversial, but aside from cries that "FD sold us a game that said I could blaze mah own trail!", it would be a fair riposte to players that want to bring Open mode down to the exact same level of Solo play.

So, what are the arguments for this? And it They can be summed up in a single word: Toxicity.

Toxicity is the bane for many games, and with PvP in any game, you get very high levels of toxicity generated by PvE players that are terrified of the idea of interacting with other human beings.

No, PvP isn't immune to toxicity, but it gets much worse when any discussion around it is instinctually invaded by pitchfork wielding knights on high horses.

Ok, having said all that, there are times PvE can be useful and fun, even for those who are predominantly...no sorry, I can't bring myself to finish this one.

Suggestions:

1) Restrict PvE only to private groups. Players that don't want PvP...oh wait, this is already working as intended

2) Create special zones where PvE players are safe from murder. It could be called "private group" or something.

3) Implement a system of PvE consent. All who want to PvE have to ask the NPC nicely, as it is not ethical to shoot an NPC that hasn't given his consent. The consent lasts until the NPC despawns, and circumventing this mechanic to shoot an NPC that hasn't given consent will have you labeled as a neckbeard sporting psycho.

Thankyou for your consideration xxx

 

[Zieman]

Toxicity.

Toxicity is the bane for many games, and with PvP in any game, you get very high levels of toxicity generated by PvE players

Most toxic are those players who cannot stand the fact that PvP doesn't dominate the whole game.
Belittling, insults, all kinds of negative behaviour comes from them. The perceived "toxicity" of those who (foolishly) respond that behaviour is just the trolls projecting their world view to their victims.

 

[StiTch]

Most toxic are those players who cannot stand the fact that PvP doesn't dominate the whole game.
Belittling, insults, all kinds of negative behaviour comes from them.

...going as far as asking for PvE to be removed! The cheek of it!

 

[Sylveria]

0/10

We all know what the reality here is.

It's only a matter of time before the devs break out the nerfstick on where the "toxicity" REALLY comes from.

And with that.. here's a little song... Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzcWwmwChVE

 

[Zieman]

...going as far as asking for PvE to be removed! The cheek of it!

Lol, yeah.

 

[StiTch]

And with that.. here's a little song... Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzcWwmwChVE

0/10, wasn't a rickroll

 

[Toumal]

0/10

We all know what the reality here is.

Indeed. As previous polls have shown, PvP is but a mere fraction of the ED playerbase, yet they make the most noise of them all. And from personal experience I can say that the... let's call them "PvP focused demographic"... has driven away many players from the game, for good.

It's up to Frontier to finally deliver on the crime and punishment system they promised. And I don't mean the one that certain PvP oriented player groups are trying to push via forum threads.

 

[Stigbob]

You already have this just by selecting CQC at the menu.

Job done, well done FDEV.

 

[Theodrid]

Blimey Stitch, thought you were better than a cheap -for-tat thread.....

 

[Stealthie]

Blimey Stitch, thought you were better than a cheap -for-tat thread.....

This.

 

[Sylveria]

0/10, wasn't a rickroll

Don't despair. There's always EVE: Valkyrie, after all.

 

[Stigbob]

Blimey Stitch, thought you were better than a cheap -for-tat thread.....

It's a well written parody thread that made me laugh.

 

[StiTch]

Blimey Stitch, thought you were better than a cheap -for-tat thread.....

Hey, it's only -for-tat when people are throwing punches or taking out each others Ghandi eyes or whatever it is.

I happened to think my source thread was quite well and entertainingly constructed, and has my full praise. And after all, imitation is the highest form of flattery - and I'd really like to flatten Agon...okay, that's not quite right...

 

[Theodrid]

It's a well written parody thread that made me laugh.

Glad to hear it, but serious or parody such threads still get my goat a little.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Parody? Perhaps a little. Trolling? Perhaps a little trollish.

Serious? Not very. We all bought the same game and we know what we bought. Just some people don't want to accept that.

However, the points i wrote are valid and as worth discussing as any thread we have around here in this sub-forum.

Perhaps one day someone can come up with an idea that would please a majority of players, but haven't seen anything like that in 3 years.

 

[Rob At Work]

This is turning into a wall peeing contest

 

[StiTch]

Serious? Not very. We all bought the same game and we know what we bought. Just some people don't want to accept that.

However, the points i wrote are valid and as worth discussing as any thread we have around here in this sub-forum.

Your points were an excellent pot-stirrer; I was thoroughly impressed by the controversy potential!

Let's not make people seriously think that mods are trying to remove PvP from the game. Being THAT openly biased would...actually never mind, I think most of the forum has accepted that by now, Brett included.

Perhaps one day someone can come up with an idea that would please a majority of players, but haven't seen anything like that in 3 years.

To be fair it's a bed that FD created removing offline solo. If that had been implemented correctly from the start I suspect there wouldn't be half the problems we have now. When I first started ED up I actually thought the Open/PG/Solo format was well conceived, until I became half experienced and realised what they had attempted with the BGS - which was ultimately the downfall; "all players are tied into the same BGS, only not actually tied together".

You already have this just by selecting CQC at the menu.

Job done, well done FDEV.

As in CQC is your dedicated PvE mode?

Given the matchmaking I can't disagree

 

[lokvette]

This did make me chuckle, and not in the background but out loud on the bus home.

 

[Sylveria]

Let's not make people seriously think that mods are trying to remove PvP from the game. Being THAT openly biased would...actually never mind, I think most of the forum has accepted that by now, Brett included.

People are going to think what they want regardless of what the mods do or don't do. They're human beings, volunteers and players. They have opinions just like anyone else, and to expect otherwise would be ridiculous indeed.

They could have just created "forum alts" instead, but then people would still imply that they're being biased. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Personally, I have more respect for them being up front and honest than hiding behind alt accounts. Too bad some don't give them the respect they deserve in return.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Restrict of remove PVC from Open. Poly Vinyl Chloride is so 21st century. Remove from Solo and Private as well while you're at it.

Let's not make people seriously think that mods are trying to remove PvP from the game. Being THAT openly biased would...actually never mind, I think most of the forum has accepted that by now, Brett included.

You and Goose should team up and form the Citizens against the Illuminati Society.