Revisiting rares trading

Borasetani Pathogenetics is interesting as we were happliy selling them last time I looked, so either a state blocks selling of them or Fdev has fiddled in the background again
legality/illegality of rares came back with the fleetcarrier update, so very recently and without a patch note.
 
Yeah, I noticed yesterday that I haven't got all of the illegal commodities marked.

I also found another station that wasn't selling (Arque - Baird Gateway), due to Infrastructure Failure.
So I need to add yet another column I guess, to note the current state of affairs on that station.
 
I think I still have my old smuggling rares route. Basically rares which could be sold in a black market on a circular route. Started and finished in the Kamorin system.

I found the route fun because it added just a slight tinge of excitement when you pulled im after flying half the bubble and risked being scanned and losing it all.

Having said that, I am not sure what the changes the black market have done to this route. They changed how Black markets work after I created it.
 
I miss Limoncello Lizard.

I also liked rares trading in a Cobra or T-6

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Big respect on the tea stains!

I haven't seen the Lizard in game in ages (like many months) so I suspect he's having a break from it for now. Hopefully he'll be back, a real legend.
 
Ok, so I did some flying and visited 14 locations that were on the list (excel sheet is updated).

3 of those locations do not have their rare goods for sale (anymore?), these are:
HIP 118311 Swarm - Lubbock Market - HIP 118311
Eden Apples of Aerial - Andrade Legacy - Aerial
Yaso Kondi Leaf - Wheeler Market - Yaso Kondi.

And the Tiegfries Synthsilk from the Tiegfries system at Larbalestier Dock was remarkeable as well. Because ... they've MOVED the station! It is now hanging out around the Tiegfries B star, at a distance of 563,034 Ls.
I mean, who moves a station? The Flat Galaxy Society! That's who! No, I'm not making this up, the Flat Galaxy Society is the ruling faction in this system.
I went there, topped out at 1010C. They had 45 tons of Synthsilk available.

Also, Larbalestier Dock is an outpost, so the largest available landing pad is an M. I've added an "(M)" to the stations name. If I find more outposts I may move this to it's own column later.

Inara.cz has updated (9 days ago) the location of this station. But their rare comodities list still states a distance of 498Ls.

This moving station made me think: I wonder if these are stations orbitting a commet?

As described here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...-drop-into-normal-space-close-to-them.350586/
 
I noticed that I forgot to update the date for the 'last update' yesterday. So I fixed it so that field now just picks the most recent date from the system check dates. When I update a system that I've visited, the 'last update' field is updated automatically.

I added another empty line underneath the "Your location" bit. Because everytime I paste a set of coordinates Excel gives me a pop-up with pasting options. And that pop-up hovers right over the filter button of the distance from you column. And right after pasting coordinates that's the filter I want to click next. That pop-up was in the way every time and was started to annoy me. Now it no longer blocks the filter button.

I added that column for the current state of the controlling faction. That column is still pretty empty now, but as I go along and fill it out you should be able to cherry pick the systems in with booming economies or in investment state.

I'm still on the fence about what to do about the systems that don't have their rare commodity available, because the current faction in control has made it illegal. I'd like to make a note which faction would free up that trade again, but it's going to take a bunch of screen space for only a select few commodities. So I'm going to leave that out for the time being and think about that some other time.

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Really good to see people trading Rares and keeping the "Old ways" alive.

There are still some Rare goods BGS players about but I think many have moved on.

There are plenty of merchandising potential in Rare goods. Bobble heads and flight suits for instance. I'd pay actual money to have a Biomorphic pet. (Not sure how it would deal with zero gee but who needs details)
 
This is worth a mention:
Just visited Ngurii - Cheranovsky City.
They're booming and currently have 400 tons of Soontill Relics available.

Ik can load up with 208 tons, go to somewhere 160+ Ly away, sell for probably 3.5M profit from that single trip, buy some other rare goods, go back to Ngurii sell and load up again.

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Flew (175Ly) to Bento - Snow Moon. Got 21,509 credits profit per ton, 4.47M credits profit on a single haul.
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I'll take a look at this tool shortly, but does it have routing options?

Some of the fun in ye olden days was doing a big loop round as many as possible.

I think I started in a hauler and ended in a t7 the once (but this was before these new much higher caps), which I gather is a pittance in credits per hour (tm) these days.
 
This was one of the only legit ways of making some proper credits before being able to afford a larger ship and get into the trading game and make yet more credits back in the day... And because of this and so many people doing it, it led on to many pirating ships going to these systems and made for some great interactions with other players.

It's a shame that you can make stupid money so quickly nowdays and all this turned to crap..
 
The rares allocations do indeed vary with bgs states. With the right collection of states, Hutton Mugs for instance were available in batches of over 100. They're regularly over 70.
 
I'll take a look at this tool shortly, but does it have routing options?

Some of the fun in ye olden days was doing a big loop round as many as possible.

I think I started in a hauler and ended in a t7 the once (but this was before these new much higher caps), which I gather is a pittance in credits per hour (tm) these days.
Routing options? Tool? Well, it's a very DIY excel sheet ... don't expect too much.

You can tell the sheet where you are by copying and pasting your coordinates. The sheet then calculates all distances from you to the other systems with a rare commodity. You can then sort those by distance, or apply a filter to your liking.
For instance, you're at Jameson Memorial. Your coordinates are 55,72 / 17,59 / 27,16, copy those and past them at "your location". The J column now shows all distances from you. If you click the filter butten of that column you can choose to sort by those distances. Sort them low to high. Now you can see that Jaradharre is the closest system with a rare, 33,83 Ly away. But it's station is a 525,542 Ls trek. So the next system is Crom at 39,71Ly, but that's a permit system. So you may want to pick another.

And in the personal notes section, in the V column, you could give each commodity that you'd like a number, so you can create your own route as you go. Next loop you could filter out all the systems not in your loop, and sort them by your numbering, and you have your own custom loop.

I also have 3 columns there with the 3 closest systems (excluding some). Although I've been filling those fields as I go, I haven't really been using them. You can use them to sort of recognise clusters, when a group all point to eachother.

Other filters I have applied and found useful where to filter by faction. I went around the Empire systems for a bit. Or to apply a filter to the distance from Sol. I filtered out everything within 100Ly of Sol, to stay out and make a big loop. Or you can filter on the coordinates, to stay in the negative Z for a bit, and so on.
 
Now that I've got the Fleet carrier for storage, I'm trying to collect 2 of each of the rares.

I just found out that Aganippe Rush isnt available at Julian market.:( Its independant and in Boom, so I dont know why.

EDIT: I checked the other stations too. Its not available
 
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Now that I've got the Fleet carrier for storage, I'm trying to collect 2 of each of the rares.

I just found out that Aganippe Rush isnt available at Julian market.:( Its independant and in Boom, so I dont know why.

EDIT: I checked the other stations too. Its not available
yeah, i saw yesterday that aganippe has changed controlling faction recently, so its production might be blocked.
 
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