Rift Higher Price than Expected? $600

The compatibility tool tells me that my venerable old 3570k doesn't meet specifications, which is not exactly unexpected.

Move to CV1 for me would thus need a new CPU and motherboard and RAM to keep within spec, and it's a good while until I next invoice :(

Urgh - I was going to pull the trigger on some new kit but I'd really better not, at least until I get the Vive requirements.

Apparently the compatibility tool is really strict and only detects base clocks of the new cpus. The real test is the firestrike demo in 3d mark and if you can get over 9000 in that everything should run fine.

I have a 970 and a 4670k both at stock and it says i'm fine. I also have a rig with a 3930k in it (not tried yet as i'm out of the country) but people are reporting that shows as "failed" in the rift checker whilst it ranks higher in firestrike.

When I get back I'll be benchmarking both cpus with the 970 o see which one I'll stick with in the long run and go from there. It's still going to be a long wait until April though :)
 
well for me I'm good with the price, I fully expected it to be around this price. For the last few months Palmer and the Oculus team have stated it was going to be over $500, the $350 figure is years old and was never going to be realistic. Oculus has put in a lot of development into this and I don’t think that the Vive is going to be any cheaper. Fact is that if you want to sit on the bleeding edge of technology you should expect to pay for it.

Personally I believe the Rift is very good value. You get the Rift + tracker + remote + gamepad + 2x games + carry case. Let’s face it that’s a lot more value then what you get if you just purchase a 4K screen, which most are still well over the $599 Rift price.

This youtube feed is a spot-on talk about the $599 price tag and the Rift, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAwXhbYM-UE
 
Personally waiting for vive, I cannot imagine playing with hmd for an extended period of display without the ability to be able to quickly orientate and such with the real world, keyboard, drinks, ton of things, which vive has a way to allow you to navigate. I see a ton of oculus accidents spilling stuff and whatnot because they can't orientate themselves without lifting the headset.
 
Personally I believe the Rift is very good value. You get the Rift + tracker + remote + gamepad + 2x games + carry case. Let’s face it that’s a lot more value then what you get if you just purchase a 4K screen, which most are still well over the $599 Rift price.

I don't get that reasoning that it is a better deal than the 4k monitor when you can use the monitor for all games and all other applications. Total biscuit said the same daft thing about that, then went onto to talk about mobile phones forgetting that mobile phones do lots more nowadays compared to what the Rift is only doing. I know nit picky :)
 
That's a very dissapointing price considering the gfx card requirements and general pc spec needed to run this.

Gonna get myself a 4k screen instead which I know will definitely work well with ED 😀
 
Absolutely no reason to by the Oculus now, wait and see what the pricetag is on the Vive first. The low cost the Oculus has been hinting at was the ONLY reason to go with the rift in my opinion.

Soooooo glad I bought a DK2 now :)

So glad I didn't sell my DK2...
 
I was thinking about inquiring on behalf of my workplace on how much a rift headset alone is. No way they are going to sell it to businesses in that package. What use does say, an MD looking at CT scans, have for an xbone controller and games.

Ha ha, if any MD I was dealing with was using current level VR to look at my CT scans I'd be out the door in a flash! Really, you use such a silly thing as an example of how overpriced, or badly bundled, you think it is!?
 
I dislike Facebook and most things about Zuckerberg too. But it has to be acknowledged that, amongst other super-rich people, he's pledged to give away 99% of his fortune to charitable causes. So to say he doesn't do a thing that doesn't scream self interest is a touch nippy! ;) As with all things you could argue that he's doing it to look good, or have his name in lights in the pages of history but that's getting into the rather pointless "there's no such thing as a selfless act" argument.

Yeah, he's not though. As with most things, the devil is in the detail. He's moving 99% of his personal fortune into a Limited Liability Company (his "foundation") to avoid paying any taxes in the US.

It's an accountancy fiddle that makes him look good into the bargain.
 
Yeah, he's not though. As with most things, the devil is in the detail. He's moving 99% of his personal fortune into a Limited Liability Company (his "foundation") to avoid paying any taxes in the US.

It's an accountancy fiddle that makes him look good into the bargain.

That makes no sense to me though. Surely he ends up with less personal fortune by giving away 99% and not paying taxes than by keeping it and paying taxes?
 
That makes no sense to me though. Surely he ends up with less personal fortune by giving away 99% and not paying taxes than by keeping it and paying taxes?

There's other things. LLC's are tax free companies because they are supposed to operate like charities, but unlike charities they don't have to make any declarations on who, what, and how much they donate.

They're also allowed to make a profit, donate to profit-making companies, and donate to politicians campaigns.

Naturally, Zuckerberg has refuted much of this and says he won't operate in that fashion, but he isn't known for being trustworthy.
 
well for me I'm good with the price, I fully expected it to be around this price. For the last few months Palmer and the Oculus team have stated it was going to be over $500, the $350 figure is years old and was never going to be realistic. Oculus has put in a lot of development into this and I don’t think that the Vive is going to be any cheaper. Fact is that if you want to sit on the bleeding edge of technology you should expect to pay for it.

Personally I believe the Rift is very good value. You get the Rift + tracker + remote + gamepad + 2x games + carry case. Let’s face it that’s a lot more value then what you get if you just purchase a 4K screen, which most are still well over the $599 Rift price.

This youtube feed is a spot-on talk about the $599 price tag and the Rift, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAwXhbYM-UE

And there are many 4k monitors on Amazon which are well under the Rift price. They are also guaranteed to work with ED which the OR 1.0 operating system definitely isn't at this time. The comment by Zac "at sometime in the future" and when FD have moved over to Vive support from long time OR support, should send a very strong note of caution to any prospective OR CV1 purchaser to take a wait and see attitude.

Yes, if every prospective purchaser did that it may hold back further development of OR VR but players in ED are not FB's cash cow. Your better advised for now to pay out a much lower price for a 4K monitor with, incidentally free shipping from Amazon.

The low end 4k's are now pretty good and if you get one plus trackir you will have a pretty good setup that your own imagination can produce a lot of the immersion that VR gives, and will still come in a fair bit lower priced than the OR with it's high shipping costs.
 
There's other things. LLC's are tax free companies because they are supposed to operate like charities, but unlike charities they don't have to make any declarations on who, what, and how much they donate.

They're also allowed to make a profit, donate to profit-making companies, and donate to politicians campaigns.

Naturally, Zuckerberg has refuted much of this and says he won't operate in that fashion, but he isn't known for being trustworthy.

Those comments are fair enough - I don't like the guy either - but even with all that, surely he's still better off personally if he just kept his shares and paid the taxes? I can't see how "giving away" 99% even with some tax dodging shenanigans would leave him with more personal wealth.
 
Those comments are fair enough - I don't like the guy either - but even with all that, surely he's still better off personally if he just kept his shares and paid the taxes? I can't see how "giving away" 99% even with some tax dodging shenanigans would leave him with more personal wealth.

Because he's not "giving away 99%". He's transferring into a tax-free LLC Foundation, which can cheerfully make money and influence politicians, without the drawbacks of Facebook's PLC status.

Doubtless he will "give" some away, but philanthropist he ain't. If he was, he'd be doing what Bill and Melissa Gates are doing.
 
Your better advised for now to pay out a much lower price for a 4K monitor with, incidentally free shipping from Amazon.

Not sure why you're trying to advise someone who thinks CV1 is "very good value" that they should buy something else. Those of us arguing that the price is reasonable are not actually trying to advise people to buy it, just arguing that the price is not unreasonable for what you're getting.
 
The low end 4k's are now pretty good and if you get one plus trackir you will have a pretty good setup that your own imagination can produce a lot of the immersion that VR gives, and will still come in a fair bit lower priced than the OR with it's high shipping costs.

I am upset by the rift price I am also worried about FD seemingly not committed to oculus support for launch but for me personally the above quote is simply not true.

A 4k monitor with head tracking is an OK way to play a game but the experience is not even close to comparable to even dk2 vr imo
 
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I can't complain about the price really. VR HMD's were retailing at 3K + for far inferior products not so long ago (they still are in fact). Any one interested in VR & HMD's in general pre-rift would know this, hell the Sony HMZ series was sold at the £1000 price point here in the uk and didn't have tracking let alone positional tacking or even a wide FOV...

When put in perspective £500 is a steal for a decent consumer VR compatible HMD.
 
Not sure if this has been posted here yet...
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/3zt7ul/i_am_palmer_luckey_founder_of_oculus_and_designer/

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I handled the messaging poorly. Earlier last year, we started officially messaging that the Rift+Recommended spec PC would cost roughly $1500. That was around the time we committed to the path of prioritizing quality over cost, trying to make the best VR headset possible with current technology. Many outlets picked the story up as “Rift will cost $1500!”, which was honestly a good thing - the vast majority of consumers (and even gamers!) don’t have a PC anywhere close to the rec. spec, and many people were confused enough to think the Rift was a standalone device. For that vast majority of people, $1500 is the all-in cost of owning Rift. The biggest portion of their cost is the PC, not the Rift itself.
For gamers that already have high end GPUs, the equation is obviously different. In a September interview, during the Oculus Connect developer conference, I made the infamous “roughly in that $350 ballpark, but it will cost more than that” quote. As an explanation, not an excuse: during that time, many outlets were repeating the “Rift is $1500!” line, and I was frustrated by how many people thought that was the price of the headset itself. My answer was ill-prepared, and mentally, I was contrasting $349 with $1500, not our internal estimate that hovered close to $599 - that is why I said it was in roughly the same ballpark. Later on, I tried to get across that the Rift would cost more than many expected, in the past two weeks particularly. There are a lot of reasons we did not do a better job of prepping people who already have high end GPUs, legal, financial, competitive, and otherwise, but to be perfectly honest, our biggest failing was assuming we had been clear enough about setting expectations. Another problem is that people looked at the much less advanced technology in DK2 for $350 and assumed the consumer Rift would cost a similar amount, an assumption that myself (and Oculus) did not do a good job of fixing. I apologize.
To be perfectly clear, we don’t make money on the Rift. The Xbox controller costs us almost nothing to bundle, and people can easily resell it for profit. A lot of people wish we would sell a bundle without “useless extras” like high-end audio, a carrying case, the bundled games, etc, but those just don’t significantly impact the cost. The core technology in the Rift is the main driver - two built-for-VR OLED displays with very high refresh rate and pixel density, a very precise tracking system, mechanical adjustment systems that must be lightweight, durable, and precise, and cutting-edge optics that are more complex to manufacture than many high end DSLR lenses. It is expensive, but for the $599 you spend, you get a lot more than spending $599 on pretty much any other consumer electronics devices - phones that cost $599 cost a fraction of that to make, same with mid-range TVs that cost $599. There are a lot of mainstream devices in that price-range, so as you have said, our failing was in communication, not just price.


>As a self-professed audiophile, how would you rank the integrated audio solution alongside entry-level audiophile headphones like the ATH-M50x, or the HD 598s?
Favorably. They are open-back drivers with pretty accurate response and a great soundstage. Somewhat similar to ATH-AD700s.

Those comparable headphones are £168 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-AD700-Headphones-ear-cup/dp/B000CMS0XU
 
I don't get that reasoning that it is a better deal than the 4k monitor when you can use the monitor for all games and all other applications. Total biscuit said the same daft thing about that, then went onto to talk about mobile phones forgetting that mobile phones do lots more nowadays compared to what the Rift is only doing. I know nit picky :)

indeed, from a consumer perspective, the mobile phone is an essential piece of personal tech which we, as a society, are plugged into. if you take a high end mobile phone, and compare it against a VR unit of the same cost, then regardless of what the VR experience provides, the mobile phone represents better value for money, by providing something that, for most, is in permanent operation throughout its ownership, and provides a far greater wealth of uses.

VR is amazing new tech, i wouldn't dream of trying to debate anything other, but comparing bread to a torque wrench.. not realistic lol. i think for many, in a situation like this, unrealistic comparisons or arguments, are basically a validation mechanism, something to justify the luxury spend, and if you are having to try and justify the spend that way.....
 
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