Rift making me sick

[Droidling]

I got my rift a little less than a week ago. It seems to work fine on steam games. I've run ED from Steam, and it seemed fine at first. This week I got started on the CG that requires me to go to Alien ruins, and drive around shooting Scavengers. It seems like when I come in for a landing around the ruins I start feeling sick. It gets worse when I deploy the SRV. I've tried starting ED using the Occulus client, and turning off Steam and several other background programs. It doesn't seem to help.

I'm wondering if my frame rate is dropping. Unfortunately I don't know how to display the Frame Rate. I've been reading other threads on making adjustments to get better frame rates. My problem is I can't seem to find the quality settings that need to be adjusted. There appear to be some sticky threads for setting up the Vive, and DK2. Is there a tuning guide for the Occulus Rift?

 

[Deleted member 115407]

I got my rift a little less than a week ago. It seems to work fine on steam games. I've run ED from Steam, and it seemed fine at first. This week I got started on the CG that requires me to go to Alien ruins, and drive around shooting Scavengers. It seems like when I come in for a landing around the ruins I start feeling sick. It gets worse when I deploy the SRV. I've tried starting ED using the Occulus client, and turning off Steam and several other background programs. It doesn't seem to help.

I'm wondering if my frame rate is dropping. Unfortunately I don't know how to display the Frame Rate. I've been reading other threads on making adjustments to get better frame rates. My problem is I can't seem to find the quality settings that need to be adjusted. There appear to be some sticky threads for setting up the Vive, and DK2. Is there a tuning guide for the Occulus Rift?

I have to admit that when making tight turns with large objects around (roids, planetary surfaces) that it churns my stomach a bit.

Sorry, OP, I don't have anything beyond that.

 

[Droidling]

I have to admit that when making tight turns with large objects around (roids, planetary surfaces) that it churns my stomach a bit.

Sorry, OP, I don't have anything beyond that.

I was actually enjoying flying around asteroids in the RES (high). No nausea at all.

I should say I have spent some time playing mobile VR games, without a problem. I don't seem to have this issue with any other game on the Occulus so far. That was why I started thinking frame rate.

 

[Frank]

Ctrl-F displays your framerate but only on the mirror. It is in your headset as well but tucked away so far in the corner it's impossible to see.

You will need to acclimatise yourself to VR. Doing so will reap rewards because it will allow you to play some of the more dynamic games out there. "Windlands" is a game that has you swinging from building to building like Spiderman.

The main thing to remember when going through the acclimation is baby steps. As soon as you feel even the slightest sensations of nausea, stop playing. You don't want your brain to build an association with the headset and a feeling of nausea.

If you stop playing for a bit, you'll find that you can play for longer next time before that queasy feeling kicks in again.

 

[Faded Glory]

It certainly could be frame rate (and focus, I'm playing on a very underpowered GPU at the moment), but just check in the graphics setting that you've checked the options for tying the camera to the horizon, and another one that I'm pretty sure references the SRV. Sorry I cannot be more specific, but I'm nowhere near in front of my PC at the moment, but I think they are self evident in the Options>Graphics settings.

 

[Mxpower76]

The horizon lock for the buggy is under functions on the screen to your right. You of course have to be in the car to set it. Helps a lot with the srv. Especially when you flip it.

 

[Droidling]

Ctrl-F displays your framerate but only on the mirror. It is in your headset as well but tucked away so far in the corner it's impossible to see.

You will need to acclimatise yourself to VR. Doing so will reap rewards because it will allow you to play some of the more dynamic games out there. "Windlands" is a game that has you swinging from building to building like Spiderman.

The main thing to remember when going through the acclimation is baby steps. As soon as you feel even the slightest sensations of nausea, stop playing. You don't want your brain to build an association with the headset and a feeling of nausea.

If you stop playing for a bit, you'll find that you can play for longer next time before that queasy feeling kicks in again.

Oops! I've been doing just the opposite the last couple of days. I thought I could just tough it out and get used to it.

 

[DaggerSnake]

What is your PC hardware? I had a lot of nausea in the SRV until I upgraded video card and it's gone. Frame rate is number one for this.

Try lowering all graphic settings to min and work up from there.

Bee sure to check all the SRV settings designed to reduce nausea. Lock to horizon is something you will want for sure.

 

[Droidling]

What is your PC hardware? I had a lot of nausea in the SRV until I upgraded video card and it's gone. Frame rate is number one for this.

This took a while to look up.
OS: Windows 7 Pro
CPU: Intel i7-5820k
CPU Cooling: NZXT Kraken X61
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI Plus
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB GDDR5
Memory: Kingston Technology HyperX FURY Black 64 GB Kit CL15 DIMM DDR4 2400 MT/s Internal Memory (HX424C15FBK4/64)
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SSD: 2 x Mushkin ECO3 480GB SSD MKNSSDE3480GB (Mirror)

Try lowering all graphic settings to min and work up from there.

Bee sure to check all the SRV settings designed to reduce nausea. Lock to horizon is something you will want for sure.

This is why I asked if there was a guide. I don't know which setting you are talking about. Is this in the options menu in ED, or the Occulus program settings. There might even be some in GeForce Exp, or the Graphics card setup?

I did a little test. I went to a RES(High) and turned on the FPS. I had to take off the head set to see the reading But the numbers I saw ranged from 57 to 90. I flew for about a half hour with no nausea. It must be worse at the alien sites.

Added: Just had a thought; I have 3 monitors for flight sims and CAD work. Would it help if I turned 2 of them off when I'm in VR?

 

[Alec Turner]

Ctrl-F displays your framerate but only on the mirror. It is in your headset as well but tucked away so far in the corner it's impossible to see.

You will need to acclimatise yourself to VR. Doing so will reap rewards because it will allow you to play some of the more dynamic games out there. "Windlands" is a game that has you swinging from building to building like Spiderman.

The main thing to remember when going through the acclimation is baby steps. As soon as you feel even the slightest sensations of nausea, stop playing. You don't want your brain to build an association with the headset and a feeling of nausea.

If you stop playing for a bit, you'll find that you can play for longer next time before that queasy feeling kicks in again.

Just wanted to 2nd this statement ^^^

Acclimatise yourself to VR in short bursts. Stop playing when you start to feel sick, come back again the next day and do a little bit more. In a week or so you'll stop feeling nauseous.

I've heard tales of people who carried on playing despite feeling ill building up such a strong association between wearing the headset and feeling nauseous that they'd start to feel ill from just the smell of the headset.

 

[znôrt]

Oops! I've been doing just the opposite the last couple of days. I thought I could just tough it out and get used to it.

don't do that! follow Frank's advice, it's spot on. take a rest at first symptoms, be patient and it will soon stop bothering you. the srv is the most sensible situation, but you probably can get used to it too. if not then use the horizon lock.

as for settings, i'm not a settings freak and find it's often personal preference, but in case the problem is inconsistent framerate try setting quality to 'vr low' and see if it helps, then work up from there one setting at a time. again, this is very subjective, so don't blindly follow other's advice on settings, it's better you take the time to experiment yourself.

 

[TorTorden_VR]

Elite is simply just not the best performer.
You will have fps drops in certain areas even with nearly insanely powerful gear.

And the thargoid sites are definitely one of these areas.

 

[parva]

I have to admit that when making tight turns with large objects around (roids, planetary surfaces) that it churns my stomach a bit.

Exactly what I encountered. Barrel role inside the station was so heavy I had to close my eyes, the first time I nearly flew out of my chair. Combat in open space no problem but asteroid fields ...oh boy.
Luckys Tale I had to close also after the first coins

 

[DaggerSnake]

This took a while to look up.
OS: Windows 7 Pro
CPU: Intel i7-5820k
CPU Cooling: NZXT Kraken X61
Motherboard: MSI X99A SLI Plus
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8 GB GDDR5
Memory: Kingston Technology HyperX FURY Black 64 GB Kit CL15 DIMM DDR4 2400 MT/s Internal Memory (HX424C15FBK4/64)
Plextor M8Pe(G) M.2 2280 256GB NVMe PCI-Express 3.0 x4 MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SSD: 2 x Mushkin ECO3 480GB SSD MKNSSDE3480GB (Mirror)



This is why I asked if there was a guide. I don't know which setting you are talking about. Is this in the options menu in ED, or the Occulus program settings. There might even be some in GeForce Exp, or the Graphics card setup?

I did a little test. I went to a RES(High) and turned on the FPS. I had to take off the head set to see the reading But the numbers I saw ranged from 57 to 90. I flew for about a half hour with no nausea. It must be worse at the alien sites.

Added: Just had a thought; I have 3 monitors for flight sims and CAD work. Would it help if I turned 2 of them off when I'm in VR?

Your PC should be ok in most open space, but may be pushed on planets or crowded space. In game settings.

OPTIONS > GRAPHICS
Start with QUALITY = VR LOW
there are lots of separate graphics settings in the quality tree, don't worry about those at first. You just want to get the highest frame rate by reducing your GPU workload to see if that is the issue.

Down the list
REDUCE CAMERA SHAKE = ON
VEHICLE MOTION BLACKOUT = ON
VEHICLE MAINTAIN HORIZON CAMERA = ON

Do other games make you sick? Echo Arena (free) or Luckys Tale? if you're fine on those, then it may not be your body.

 

[[VR] Frank_G]

The trick for me was, to stop playing immediately, when i felt the slightest effects of nausea. I wasnt able to play longer than 15 minutes, when i first got the Rift, but over time the brain adapts (took me about two months and duration from session to session increased noticible). Besides that, a decent and steady frame rate is key. Better go down with quality than with fps.

Two weeks ago, i did an 8 hour session and the only annoying thing was the Rift face afterwards . And i would not recommend to switch on the cam stabilizers. Get used to the motion, as it feels much more natural. Just dont force yourself to continue. This could actually ruin VR for you completely. Stop on the slightest effects and continue an hour later or so.

You will be playing this game as long as you want in no time.

be seeing you in the void CMDR! o7

 

[Cliché]

My problem is I can't seem to find the quality settings that need to be adjusted...

It sounds to me like you can't find the actual setting in the game. You need to go to options, graphics, and then click on the box with the "+" in it to expand the options. There should be a standard option for VR LOW, which should work, but to customize you will need the expanded settings. The options for locking the horizon in the SRV and etc are further down the list - just keep clicking on the expand boxes to see everything.

 

[Alec Turner]

Exactly what I encountered. Barrel role inside the station was so heavy I had to close my eyes

Yup, the station barrel roll is definitely a bit of a head twister the first first times, that and driving the SRV. I think it's basically when there's lots of frame-of-reference scenery around you that starts tilting which really makes your brain throw a bit of a wobbly.

Another thing I'd recommend which has really helped me feel a lot fresher and less claustrophobic and clammy is to get yourself one of these ..

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...desk-fan-has-really-improved-my-VR-experience

Having a cool, gentle breeze on your face definitely makes the VR experience a lot more pleasant (I liken it to winding the window down if you're feeling car sick).

 

[The Lawful]

FWIW, I have a 1070 too (Asus ROG Strix 1070GTX OC) and absolutely no problems even after several (7-8) hours, whereas my wife and a friend of mine both get sick within seconds, in particular on planet surfaces. The only situation where I might feel a tad uneasy in are tight turns in external cam inside the station, i.e. when checking livery. So apart from different brains maybe (mine seems to be dumb enough), I cannot come up with a proper explanation, the hardware itself should be powerful enough for Elite VR. I would recommend lowering the VR settings to low, too, in particular the SS and HMD Image quality settings. I run the game at SS 1.0 and Image Quality 1.25 and get a constant 90fps outside stations and even in Hazres fights, inside stations and on planet surfaces with installations, it drops to 45fps due to ASW kicking in. The station menus are a good place to check IMHO, I found these to be the most critical. The Thargoid wrecks are demanding, too, in particular near the center. If I set the quality settings too high and frame rates drop below 45fps, I get evil headaches too, so part of it may be fps-related, but this somehow can't be the only reason. In case of my wife, the SRV's movement without physical feedback is an identifiable factor, but as she refused to take part in further experiments, I can't tell anything more. For reference, she could drive around for some time in Euro Truck Simulator 2 until she crashed, then things went instantly downhill. My friend originally had a Razer OVR2K and really tried for two weeks, but it didn't work out. When he tried my Oculus CV1 on the rig I use everyday, he said it was better, but still not bearable for him.

HTH, and all the best,
[noob]

 

[Rob At Work]

I get this with several games, particularly those with a first person perspective (always prefer 3rd person as it happens less often) - I am told this is due to motion sickness, I would like to know more but TBH I CBA

 

[Greyhawk]

I found if I moved my head slightly into the direction of motion it helped. For instance if I bank left, I tip my head slightly left and so on. But Frank's advice is spot on. As soon as any nausea starts, take off the headset and walk around for a bit.

The first time I flew in VR I got the same panic attack I get when I'm in an actual plane. My fear of flying is pretty bad so I took it slowly with slow rolls and gentle movements, working up gradually until I don't have any issue any more.