General / Off-Topic Rise of Skywalker (Give me literally every spoiler please)
out of this dumpster fire 
Must...argue...with...jasonbarron...can't help myself...
I gave an opinion complete with some easily verifiable reasons and comparisons to back it up.
You can feign a swoon about that if you like though, always good for a laugh.
I just think it's funny, I'm not swooning my friend. And say what you will, marginalize how you like, if it wasn't for Lucas none of it would have happened in the first place. Your rationale and reasoning is that of the man who gives the laborers on the assembly of a pencil manufacturing plant the credit instead of the man who built and runs the plant in the first place. I've run into that attitude all of my life and it's bull manure.
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To those bemoaning Ben's death (or force subsuming, whatever) - I don't see how else it could've worked. Sure, he was redeemed in the force and by his peers, but how could he have been absolved by the galaxy at large?
"Oh, you murdered billions and were seeking to become the universe's biggest despot, but I see the scales have now fallen from your eyes, let us forgive all and welcome our new hero"
No, wouldn't work. Ben was lost long ago and I was very glad he was redeemed. It was a neat way to make things right, and consistent with Anakin's fate. It also gives reason and purpose to Rey's survival.
"Oh, you murdered billions and were seeking to become the universe's biggest despot, but I see the scales have now fallen from your eyes, let us forgive all and welcome our new hero"
No, wouldn't work. Ben was lost long ago and I was very glad he was redeemed. It was a neat way to make things right, and consistent with Anakin's fate. It also gives reason and purpose to Rey's survival.
The dude in charge most likely inherited the plant and is paying someone poorer but far more competent to actually run it and would stab himself and get tetanus if he handled a pencil in person. Like Donald Trumps third attempt at a real estate business was stopped from collapsing (like the first two did) because his dad insisted on oversight and supervision personnel along with the third round of financing.
Well, i really loved the first trilogy. They were magical at the time.
I also liked a lot the prequels, but they were not as magical as the first movies were. But I liked them a lot.
The last trilogy? Not so much.
I mean, yea - went to see them them at the cinema, i enjoyed the moment when it happened.
But i also had to google the names for episode VII and VIII. *
edit: *(that happened before my first post in this thread... which is rather sad, but relevant to the state of the last trilogy)
I also liked a lot the prequels, but they were not as magical as the first movies were. But I liked them a lot.
The last trilogy? Not so much.
I mean, yea - went to see them them at the cinema, i enjoyed the moment when it happened.
But i also had to google the names for episode VII and VIII. *
edit: *(that happened before my first post in this thread... which is rather sad, but relevant to the state of the last trilogy)
This is about what I would expect from a socialist who takes his opinion about starting, owning and running a business from left leaning tabloids
Let's leave the politics alone my friend, and keep talking about Star Wars instead, ok?
When Lucas was young he had a good idea, where he got it from doesn't the really matter, he also had a tight budget, sometimes that is a good thing sometimes it’s not. The acting in 4,5,6 was sometimes great sometimes so pso and sometimes not worth remembering. However the story was good enough to carry the plot, Vader was excellent with the iconic voice and the force was believable. Then the sequels came, and we got Jar Jar Binks!
I don’t know who thought it was a good idea, but it was clearly a silly character to place in a space opera in a galaxy far far away. Young Vader was also a bad move, horrible acting, poorly directed just a mess.
without good strong characters like Han Solo, old Vader only a few characters was able to move the story forward.
Then Disney came along, and they managed to destroy what was left, with stupid plots, a story that could have been written by a hobo on mushrooms and glue vapor, just unwatchable. Like spoon feeding a baby with dog food .
Yes it made money, but not as much as it could have, and the size of the fan base just got smaller.
I don’t know who thought it was a good idea, but it was clearly a silly character to place in a space opera in a galaxy far far away. Young Vader was also a bad move, horrible acting, poorly directed just a mess.
without good strong characters like Han Solo, old Vader only a few characters was able to move the story forward.
Then Disney came along, and they managed to destroy what was left, with stupid plots, a story that could have been written by a hobo on mushrooms and glue vapor, just unwatchable. Like spoon feeding a baby with dog food .
Yes it made money, but not as much as it could have, and the size of the fan base just got smaller.
This is about what I would expect from a socialist who takes his opinion about starting, owning and running a business from left leaning tabloids
Lol, socialist.
If you are now offended by your own derail you should probably look to yourself for the most obvious solution to that.
Wishful thinking doesn't drop the box office take of the new star wars films, you should have a look at the numbers. They are doing better than ever.
Not really, they ain’t gonna make the billion dollar mark, and no one is visiting the new shiny theme park, they are actually losing money right now.
Its already got the third highest opening weekend take of them all, so it'll definitely break a billion.
The other ones that broke a billion are :
The Phantom Menace
Rogue One
The last Jedi
The Force Awakens
As you can see none of the original trilogy are there, so the "its doing badly financially" argument seems to be bantha poodu.
I've just noticed that there is a certain crowd who simply cannot help themselves but to argue with me, even if I start out by saying something they would normally agree with, and one of their chief tactics is going down the 'ol political road to derail us into a lockdown. If you look back you'll see that all I did was bring up pencil manufacturing plants to make a point (pun!), while on the other hand you couldn't help yourself but to bring up the big bad orange man himself
I just want Star Wars to be great again, that's all I'm saying.
It was a different time, they did great according to the standard of the time.
today a block buster need to break the billion dollar sealing to be successful, like the Joker.
I've just noticed that there is a certain crowd who simply cannot help themselves but to argue with me, even if I start out by saying something they would normally agree with, and one of their chief tactics is going down the 'ol political road to derail us into a lockdown. If you look back you'll see that all I did was bring up pencil manufacturing plants to make a point (pun!), while on the other hand you couldn't help yourself but to bring up the big bad orange man himself
I just want Star Wars to be great again, that's all I'm saying.
SWGA
not going to happen any day soon, first Disney need to burn it down to the ground, then they will sell it and then it can be rebuild.It was a different time, they did great according to the standard of the time.
today a block buster need to break the billion dollar sealing to be successful, like the Joker.
Lol, so they are doing badly financially only if you ignore the actual financials themselves. Right on commander.
You need to look at the whole business, the franchise is not doing well, however no need at argue, the numbers will give us the facts in due time.
They are in trouble like it or not, there will be changes the top management because of the financial bleeding.
Im already shorting WALTDISNE73Z and I’m gonna make a nice fat buck as it drops.
Your perception of movies has just changed over time. The franchise is the same as it ever was.
If you were 12 you'd think the Disney ones were great.
Nope, the kids I know don’t like it, they like the old ones, so directly form the source.
and I was an adult when the first movie came out, 40 years ago.