Rock Shelters Need Adjustments

Robbierotten

R
So, I made a shelter out of rocks and had a pretty neat looking cave for my grizzly bears. Met 0% of the hard shelter requirement. I tweaked it a bit, added some rocks to different sections...and... 25% of hard shelter requirement met. Downloaded some random rock cave off of the workshop that didn't look all that different than mine. 100% of hard shelter requirements met. What????

I don't understand how rock shelters work. Seems like you have to place the rocks in very precise ways and positions for it to count as a shelter. It should be easier to just make a cave out of rocks for bears and have it count as a shelter. Of course people are going to want to make caves for many animals in this game, and as of now it's just a huge pain.
 

Floridaman123

F
Seems like vertical pieces are calculated weirdly, when I check the heat map for shelter areas near my vertical rocks are not included. Also gotta make sure roof height is high enough
 

Souldrake

Souldrake
I've been using some of the flat pieces to make a roof then piling more rocks on top of those to break up the flatness when making my hard shelters out of rocks. Haven't had much of an issue. You might have gaps in your ceiling or something?
 

Agathorn

A
AFAIK Shelter is calculated by casting rays straight down in world space and seeing what gets blocked, or the equivalent of that anyway. In other words only "ceiling" overhead is counted towards shelter. Think of it as blocking rain but also there is the bounding box of the animal to account for, so generally the area inside the shelter will be smaller than its physical area.

On top of that bear in mind that the bounding volume on some rocks is a bit wonky and parts of some rocks can be penetrated so overlapping your rocks helps to reduce this. Typically the cladding pieces work well.

Another trick I often do to make my life easier is to build the shelter with terrain first, then cover it with rock for looks.
 

Hyawehb

Hyawehb
That's right it's too bad because we have a lot of cute or nice shelter in the workshop or building by ourselves and they aren't considered as proper shelter by the game, tho the animals go into them and slept there. I still have trouble to understand well how shelters work for now.
 

MsRedNebula

MsRedNebula
Agathorn said:
On top of that bear in mind that the bounding volume on some rocks is a bit wonky and parts of some rocks can be penetrated so overlapping your rocks helps to reduce this. Typically the cladding pieces work well.

Another trick I often do to make my life easier is to build the shelter with terrain first, then cover it with rock for looks.
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I do something similar, but instead of terrain, I use construction roof pieces and float them above the ground. As soon as I get enough that it shows 100% hard shelter, I build my rock cave over the roof pieces.
 

Aiste

A
Each animal, depending on the species, occupies a specific area in the shelter (for sleeping, resting and hiding). The area occupied by one animal is multiplied by the number of animals in the habitat, and thus the total space under the roof is calculated.
 
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