So you pirate commanders flying their trading ships in Open but when you trade yourself you do so in Solo? And you encourage your piracy victims to do the same?
Same old song about cheaters
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So you pirate commanders flying their trading ships in Open but when you trade yourself you do so in Solo? And you encourage your piracy victims to do the same?
No, I stay in open, I pirate in open, I make cash in open, and I encourage my friends to do the same.
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No, I stay in open, I pirate in open, I make cash in open, and I encourage my friends to do the same.
My bad, I misunderstood. Have some rep
Deary me. People gain self worth from playing a game in a certain mode. They pat themselves on the back. We are so brave and hardcore! We play a game .... in a certain mode. Go us!
It's quite comical. Please continue
It's quite comical. Please continue
Deary me. People gain self worth from playing a game in a certain mode. They pat themselves on the back. We are so brave and hardcore! We play a game .... in a certain mode. Go us!
It's quite comical. Please continue
No, you misunderstand. It's not about this mode vs that mode, it's about fairness and a diverse Open mode. If you choose to pirate and murder in Open then you should accept that you may become a piracy and murder victim in Open at those times when you don't want to fly your A-grade PVP ship.
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I wasn't commenting on your post exclusively, just the mentality I read the last couple of pages
But with regard to the situation you described, I have no problem with people who pirate and murder in Open, then go to Solo to do other stuff. Everyone should play in the mode that suits them best at any one time.
Fairness.. I don't even know where to begin... I suspect this is a European concept to begin with - that everything should be fair. Hence we have little league sports with no scores, and trophies for everyone - just to be fair.
We give jobs to people who are totally not qualified for them - to be fair.
We give vouchers for food, and rent, and public transportation and cellular phones to drug addicts and prostitutes who have no legitimate jobs - to be fair.
But the harsh truth is that life is not fair. Dinosaurs are extinct because life isn't fair. Neandertal is extinct because life isn't fair.
Because life isn't fair.
I won't say things would not be different, potentially better, if life were fair, but it's pure fantasy to think that it ever will be.
And that brings me to this: "you should accept that you may become a piracy and murder victim [...] when you don't want to fly your A-grade PVP ship." which serves to flawlessly illustrate exactly why many Americans, myself included, are such staunch supporters of our Right to Bare Arms. This is precisely why so many of us DO own and carry guns - to help even the odds between law-abiding citizens and the criminal element that disregards the law. We're just trying to make things a little more fair.
And really the only "fair" solution here is to prevent any sort of log-off. All ships should be turned over to AI's whenever the account owner is not online, be it accidentally or by choice. That's the only thing that would be fair, and it has to apply to griefers, pirates, explorers - everyone. Once you log in that very first time, that's it - you're here for eternity. You'll find yourself landed where ever you landed last. And if you were flying through space, well, you'll just be that much farther when you come back, unless, of course, you happen to have been blown up while you were away, then you'll log back in to an insurance claim screen.
This is a game.
If someone peaks into your cards during a game of poker, and therefor cheats, you exclude him from your poker game evenings.
No need to go back to adam and eve for that.
The right to bare arms? Ban cardigans?
I prefer the right to arm and keep bears myself
I prefer the right to arm and keep bears myself
Yep this is Europe! This is where the victim is jailed for longer than a criminal for punching him, that who just killed their dog, smashed a window, stole half the valuables in the house, set fire to the car, and tried to blow up the house with a failed gas explosion attempt..
It's hard not to be cynical here
But you're right! Forbid if citizens carried guns themselves, and started shooting at criminals attempting a stick-up at a bank! The police would be in fear of being out of work!sorry back on topic..
ED isn't one of the games where mode matters. I can honestly say I play ED for me. If i wanted to get into the affairs of other fellow space dwellers, I'd probably still play EVE, but I came away from that to avoid unwanted PvP. ED caters very well, and SOLO provides that all important ZEN, where it's just me, and our galaxy.
Didn't realise I was posting in the Daily Mail forum.
So sorry, I'll be on my way
So sorry, I'll be on my way
Gosh, well that escalated quickly lol.
Didn't realise I was posting in the Daily Mail forum.
So sorry, I'll be on my way
Isn't that a bit of a low blow?
Deary me. People gain self worth from playing a game in a certain mode. They pat themselves on the back. We are so brave and hardcore! We play a game .... in a certain mode. Go us!
It's quite comical. Please continue
Heh ... there may always a bit of chest-thumping where us PvP-types are concerned.
However, I think that for many the decision to play in Open only is a personal RP choice - essentially choosing which dimension you envisage your character existing in, then staying there.
Personally, I did my trading in a Type-7 in Open, a looonngggg way from the hotspots. What this achieved was not people thinking that I was tough (I had precisely nobody on my friends list at the time...) but a reduced credit income in return for 'mah immersion' - a greater feeling of realism, the sense that I was avoiding danger by taking active steps to achieve that, rather than abolishing that danger.
Later I got braver and traded in a Python in Open, even at CG's - even escaping the legendary pirate Bangfish on one memorable occasion.
This was to become a theme for me even after I joined a player group. For example, when the original Robigo smuggling broke, by then I was in Adle's Armada. We all went to Takurua so as to avoid Robigo fighting and did all our smuggling from there in Open - again accepting slightly diminished returns (though, here, the incentive being of course mixed between personal RP satisfaction and 'group image').
A related example would be over players' personal decisions as to whether they do or don't trade virtual slaves. Pure RP.
However ... every man has his breaking point. I am not at all a fan of 2.1 and done every second of my months of RNGineering in Solo. I estimate that the lower-risk adjustments I'm thus able to make to ship choice, outfitting choice and flying style (in SC and before docking) probably save me 5 mins to 10 mins every hour.
And where RNGineering is concerned, 5-10 mins/hr means more to me than all the RP or image in the galaxy and then some...
Fair enough.
But combat loggers aren't peaking at your cards are they? They are folding when they are losing.
And it isn't *your* game, it's just a game at a big casino called FD.
And generally: these people aren't even at your table. Many (most) are playing at private tables and the ones at public tables still are likely not at yours at any given moment.
And you want the casino to ban them because you don't chose fold when you are losing and you don't think they should be allowed to either.
Yeah, but because of the influx of immigrants, all we have left are low blows.
You could live here. We have some yahoo trying to put up a wall and blame the minorities for all the problems that the wealthy created for the country.
Plus fabulous hair.
No, It's like folding your cards then refusing to pay the bets placed.
People saying combat logging is just "giving up" are being wilfully misleading and or ignorant. I don't care about your personal sense of what losing is and what giving up is when I'm pirating you or killing you for a bounty.
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