Engineers SDC Commences "Operation SpicyBois 2.0"

So, I'm still wondering about this.

I've been playing with heat cannons off and on today. They do well against the unprepared, but I don't think they're the problem everyone is making them out to be.

I just came across an elite cmdr who was flying a Python at the Lave CG. I had a FAS with a full loadout of efficient G5 heat weapons. 3 fixed heat cannons on bottom, and a gimbaled heat pulse laser on top.

He had prismatics, and was running multi-cannons with heat-sinks and 3 shield cell banks.

I managed to empty my cannons from nearly full, with most shots hitting. There were several missed shots here and there, but for the most part, I was laying it on heavy. He wasn't running chaff, so the laser spent the majority of it's time on target as well.

I'm hardly the best pilot out there, and I made a few mistakes that cost me, but I was about to run out of ammo when I died.

He lost 2% hull from heat, and kept shields throughout.

On the other hand, when running all PA's on the same FAS, I've routinely heated it up to well over 300% during PvP engagements and survived, having killed my target.

I just don't see what all the fuss is about.

Did I miss the meta?

Are you supposed to kite and use synthesis a few times to slow-roast your targets?

Sometimes people are more afraid of heat damage than other types of damage. The alarms make it seem worse than it is; even if the actual damage is minor.

To be fair though, heat damage is usually worse on modules than it is on hull. Were you able to cause significant module damage to the CMDR's Python?
 
heat cannons are really awful. Why it have been no fixed yet?

Maybe its intended as quince - a quick win shortcut. Who knows. Everyone can play a game as he like.

I've been playing with heat cannons off and on today. They do well against the unprepared, but I don't think they're the problem everyone is making them out to be.

Its not hard to figure out if you take a good player with heats and good player without them, then this one with heat will have advantage no matter how this second will be prepared.

If something can be countered only by itself then it mean its OP.

Heat cannons are making a fight impossible to person without them. Only what is possible to just retreat.
 
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Deja Vu!
Hello again! You may remember our last operation under this banner from September 2016, when the "heat meta" was at its peak. The following patch, Frontier "fixed" heat weapons by hard-capping their induced heat to 95% of a target's heat capacity.

Or did they?

As some of you may be aware, thermal cascade cannons were completely untouched by this balancing pass. This means that they can spike your heat to anywhere between 110%-180% depending on your ship's heat capacity and the size of the cannons hitting you. It might also be worth pointing out that this effect works through shields, so you can just imagine what it's like to fight against. Even if you're idle in an FDL with a low-emissions powerplant and godrolled clean drives equipped, you will still spike to 140% heat after being hit with these weapons.

Currently, the weapons are nowhere near as prominent as they could be, due to the fact that most players have simply refused to use them against each other up to this point (yes, even SDC). While this does kind of solve the issue of removing them from the PvP scene, it still does not solve the underlying issue that they exist and are glitched and broken.

Of course, this has been ticketed and reported to Frontier on multiple occasions, but nothing has been done about it (we did get a few ship kits though, so there's that). Given the detrimental effect it is having on the game (PvP and PvE players alike are being affected) and the fact that they were not fixed in the beta that just finished, SDC is now going to commence that which it does best: an operation to cause enough public outcry to grab Frontier's attention. Cue Operation SpicyBois 2.0.


  • What is it?
Simple. We are going to strive to make the heat cannon glitch as widespread a problem as possible. Unlike last time, we will not be restricting ourselves to using non-meta ships for this operation. While we will still be using stupid things like heat cannon keelbacks and T9's to prove how broken they are, we will also be using heat cannon corvettes and FDL's. All targets will be sent a custom text macro that explains their current situation, and also encouraging them to make a post about their experience on the official forums regarding how stupid the enemy's heat cannons were.


  • Why are you doing this?
The only way to make Frontier fix a game-breakingly glitched game mechanic is through a tidal wave of community tears. It worked for the 2016 heat meta, healing beams, and starport firepower/countermeasures, so we are hoping for similar results this time around.

  • I just got roasted by a wing of SpicyBois, what do I do to stop this?
Glad you asked! Create a thread on the official Frontier Forums' "Dangerous Discussion" board regarding your issue, preferably with screenshots and/or videos to strengthen your case. Get a discussion going regarding the manner of your in-game death and the glitched game mechanics that made it possible. Hopefully Frontier lends an ear to the cacophony that will be generated.

The operation begins now. Everything burns.

Yours lovingly, CMDR Rinzler o7o7o7

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Must be school holidays already. Or Corbyns yoof vote is mobilising for anarchy 💩
 
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