SDC live Event: Let's Pew!

[Boomer Kay]

Most weren't born in the age of diversity, can't really blame them. Some adapted phenomenally, most did not, for reasonable causes.

"Bro", we were not born in the age of diversity, we CREATED the age of diversity, using nothing but our imagination and technology that was never designed to be used creatively.
I attended a speech of Dr. Konrad Zuse (you know, that guy that invented computers?) back in 1990 or something and he was a funny, grouchy old man who easiely outsmarted an entire elite university of twentie-something "know it alls" - all with a wink and tongue in cheek .. From memory: "I never created computers to be used for spreadsheets and profitability calculations..."

Sometimes I feel like good old Treebeard. I was there, wen the glory of men failed. And so where many others and some of them cannot possibly be blipped to take some new generation priding themselves of having 'invented' things that were standard before their birth seriously - you blame them? I was sneaking around RPKs in the fabled Ultima Online (paying 10 bucks an hour for the 'pleasure') and now RPKs are .. sneaking around me.. hurrrfricking durrr.

 

[Karla]

*Sneezes*

Ugh... must be getting a cold .-.

Careful, you'll be *chucking up in the background* next.

 

[Cosmos]

The issue with having an "older" user base is that they cling incessantly to a certain morality and are very vulnerable to stress and are easily intolerant of anything outside of established comfort zone.

Most weren't born in the age of diversity, can't really blame them. Some adapted phenomenally, most did not, for reasonable causes.

Likely depends on the individual, I'm of that age bracket but am young at heart and mind, and never had a problem in game. Many of my age related peers are right sticks in the mud and behave like folks in their 90's.. Most of them are miserable in bad relationships and a burdened with 'responsibility'.. [blah]

Looking at many of the comments on this issue I'm surprised the world isn't a better place for if they get this upset about a computer game then the real world must really get them going. I really can't fathom what is so unexpected or upsetting about players shooting at other players in a multiplayer space sim.. Its quite a natural thing to do. I suppose some people get old before their time..

 

[DukeIronHand]

The issue with having an "older" user base is that they cling incessantly to a certain morality and are very vulnerable to stress and are easily intolerant of anything outside of established comfort zone.

Most weren't born in the age of diversity, can't really blame them. Some adapted phenomenally, most did not, for reasonable causes.

Wow. Did you really say that?
I could launch into a lengthy...whatever...but somehow I sense there is little point.

 

[Boomer Kay]

Most of them are miserable in bad relationships and a burdened with 'responsibility'.. [blah]

And quite a few of them join RPK groups, just to escape their misery. (remember when dear Nyxi asked me for empathy? .. don't do that... ever)

 

[Sandysky]

Thanks for the warning, I'm close to that area and as the SDC as sociopathic attention seeking #######(<-- insert your swear word of choice) I'll switch to solo mode.

 

[Karunamon]

Tl;dr:

..just realized i'm going to get warned for that image and i have no idea how to delete it.

Just imagine the "What trolls want you to think" vs "What is actually happening" image, or google it, and you've got a pretty good idea of this thread and the maturity level of its instigators.

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[Moritz Norman]

Fine. So you do have enough money, you do have the opportunity to go elsewhere after being slaughtered by outnumbered and outpowered ships. You're then a very lucky person.

SDC does not provide ANY thrill in game. Your statement is the first time I heard something like this, I have heard countless accounts of contrary descriptions regarding SDC activity. From people having paused (or quit) the game.

SDC is not a fun group for people outside the little ganking squadrons.

It's fun to a lot of us. On my deaths to SDC/affiliates while CG running I learned lessons about tactics and loadouts, making adjustments and getting better (even at CG running/trading) makes the game more interesting to me.

Also the thread starter is a pretty nice guy in game.

 

[StevieG]

We have more direct feedback channels with developers regarding beta testing (a small PvP focus group)

Thats a great shame. All they need to do is watch the SDCs twitch over the last few nights to see your contribution to the community. Specifically trying to bankrupt CMDRs flying in/out of Jameson Memorial.

Your actions bring nothing to this community and its a great shame if you have any type of feedback into the devs.

 

[Arguendo]

Looking at many of the comments on this issue I'm surprised the world isn't a better place for if they get this upset about a computer game then the real world must really get them going.

Where I live, people don't walk up to me on the sidewalk, punch me in the face, laugh at me and tell me it's my own fault for leaving my apartment
(Hey, you brought in the real world, not me)

 

[Cosmos]

Where I live, people don't walk up to me on the sidewalk, punch me in the face, laugh at me and tell me it's my own fault for leaving my apartment
(Hey, you brought in the real world, not me)

That doesn't happen to me either largely because I wonder around without a victim mentality and an aura that says if you screw with me expect pain. Besides in our 1st world existance we don't get incinerated for a parking infraction, in ED you do.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Oh dear. Self centered layman psycho babble.

 

[GluttonyFang]

"Bro", we were not born in the age of diversity, we CREATED the age of diversity, using nothing but our imagination and technology that was never designed to be used creatively.
I attended a speech of Dr. Konrad Zuse (you know, that guy that invented computers?) back in 1990 or something and he was a funny, grouchy old man who easiely outsmarted an entire elite university of twentie-something "know it alls" - all with a wink and tongue in cheek .. From memory: "I never created computers to be used for spreadsheets and profitability calculations..."

Sometimes I feel like good old Treebeard. I was there, wen the glory of men failed. And so where many others and some of them cannot possibly be blipped to take some new generation priding themselves of having 'invented' things that were standard before their birth seriously - you blame them? I was sneaking around RPKs in the fabled Ultima Online (paying 10 bucks an hour for the 'pleasure') and now RPKs are .. sneaking around me.. hurrrfricking durrr.

Um... inspiration for computers started very early, and probably the earliest version can be argued to be the ENIAC (which funnily enough at that time they didn't credit Alan Turing, want to know why? Because he was gay .-. like... seriously, I can't help but laugh every time I think about this), first inspiration is probably Babbage.

The funny thing about your argument is that it's self defeating.

Technology created not intended for creative purposes is exactly what the last generation did. Creating a tool and using it for creative purposes are two different things. The last generation is accountable for creating the tools, and this generation is accountable for using it creatively.

As for Konrad Zuse, he wasn't the inventor of computer, he was the inventor of programmable computer, there is a huge difference. He opened up the variety for people to use computers for the purposes they wish to prescribe. Creating the tools and using the tools in certain manners are two different things.

 

[Arguendo]

That doesn't happen to me either largely because I wonder around without a victim mentality and an aura that says if you screw with me expect pain.

Spoiler

 

[GluttonyFang]

Wow. Did you really say that?
I could launch into a lengthy...whatever...but somehow I sense there is little point.

I mean, if you are one of the "older" user base, you either adapted to the current generation or did not. I didn't bash either side on the matter but merely distinguished between subgroups.

 

[Mohrgan]

I mean, if you are one of the "older" user base, you either adapted to the current generation or did not. I didn't bash either side on the matter but merely distinguished between subgroups.

I mean, if you are one of the "younger" user base, you either adapted to the current generation or did not.

That 'distinguishing' you mention, is exactly the same as stereotyping. I am in my 50's, and I have adapted to the current generation but, that doesn't mean I give them a pass when they cross the line. I don't think adapting to the current generation means that they just have to be accepted. Every generation needs to have it's morays adjusted. Acting like a putz is still the same no matter how old one is.

 

[DukeIronHand]

I am of the "older generation" and what is meant by "adapting to the current generation" which, in my mind is almost insulting as I have not been impressed by most of the "news", I do not know.
However texted word lacks nuance and inflection so we will agree to disagree.

 

[Theodrid]

Yeah, for calling out Muppets when they act like Muppets we are stuck in our ways, with 90 year old mentalities.....yeah, sure.

Knowing right from wrong, knowing when someone is acting like a           and sticking to your principles is actually the right side of the fence. Folk that do this are not some plague to the gaming scene that some of those making stupid generalisations would have people believe, in fact, I'd say the opposite is true.

So, should I call you all 'pew pew kiddies' and stoop to your level or do you want a sensible discussion?

Having principles and decency is not age restricted beyond around 10 years old

 

[GluttonyFang]

This is by far the most interesting definition of "back then they had morale and character".

Welcome to generation selfie.

Strict morality only leads to unnecessary oppression of freedom of expression. While it gives form and frame to expression, it undermines diversity to an unnecessary degree.

I mean come on, 1920, 1964, 1962.

Sure, there was "morality," but it's plain as day that this "morality" was nothing but egoistic personal preferences that did nothing but oppress people for no good reason.

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I mean, if you are one of the "younger" user base, you either adapted to the current generation or did not.

Yea, precisely.

That 'distinguishing' you mention, is exactly the same as stereotyping. I am in my 50's, and I have adapted to the current generation but, that doesn't mean I give them a pass when they cross the line. I don't think adapting to the current generation means that they just have to be accepted. Every generation needs to have it's morays adjusted. Acting like a putz is still the same no matter how old one is.

The problem is with this "line." Sometimes it's unnecessarily stringent as I have provided examples to.

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I am of the "older generation" and what is meant by "adapting to the current generation" which, in my mind is almost insulting as I have not been impressed by most of the "news", I do not know.
However texted word lacks nuance and inflection so we will agree to disagree.

I explained ^.

 

[Cosmos]

Yeah, for calling out Muppets when they act like Muppets we are stuck in our ways, with 90 year old mentalities.....yeah, sure.

Knowing right from wrong, knowing when someone is acting like a and sticking to your principles is actually the right side of the fence. Folk that do this are not some plague to the gaming scene that some of those making stupid generalisations would have people believe, in fact, I'd say the opposite is true.

So, should I call you all 'pew pew kiddies' and stoop to your level or do you want a sensible discussion?

Having principles and decency is not age restricted beyond around 10 years old

Applying real world morality to a computer game that takes place in a cutthroat galaxy seems a little odd in my view. An intereresting point of trivia but when SWTOR released the vast majority of players chose to be a Sith. Might it be that in an imaginery game world we explore and act in ways we wouldn't other wise do? If you choose to be one of the good guys in game thats your choice but judging others for their in game actions strikes me as a very limited and unintelligent way to look at it