seriously?!?!

[Phaaded]

Uhh you guys are all wrong. If someone interdicts you it's a pretty reasonable assumption that they did so with criminal intent.

If accidentally grazing a cop while attacking a wanted ship gets you a bounty, pretty sure interdiction should get you a bounty as well.

This is just poor game design from the devs.

Interdiction is like breaking into someone's house, you wouldn't do it if you didn't want to do something bad. Yes it's that simple.

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Oh, and I forgot to mention: When you interdict an NPC, that NPC automatically considers you hostile and free to retaliate. The same should apply to players.

Damn right. Poor game design.

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Believe what you want but security vessels DO interdict to perform a scan, and if all is well youre free to leave.
This was clearly not the case though, but as mentioned you must scan to make sure someone is wanted before firing at them or else be demed "wanted".

I get you frustration because you didnt know this but now you do

Uhh no, cops having the right to interdict is one thing (like getting pulled over).

Non authority vessels will interdict you for one reason, and only one reason. To cause you harm.

EDIT: ALSO, an authority vessel that interdicts you already scanned you from super cruise and found that you were wanted. A player that scanned you from super cruise and interdicted you when you are not wanted is because they found you an easy target. C'mon guys, this is simple stuff.

 

[smsKONG]

It has to remain legal or bounty hunters can't check bounties from other factions with a kill warrant scanner.
Remember that you can be wanted for crimes in other jurisdictions but still show as clean in others systems...

Same with being interdicted by npc security or police - it's their right to pull you over to check you; just like in real life you could be pulled over time and time again for no real reason - good luck claiming harassment through our modern day courts unless you are seriously loaded!

As for not knowing you could submit to interdiction - I learnt it was possible because I was trying to escape and slowed down too much while following the blue circle - it flashes up in huge big writing - "SUBMITTING TO INTERDICTION" (!).
Now if you had tried to escape a few times you should have worked out that it is easier to follow the blue circle if you slow down a bit (just like normal flight where optimum manoeuvrability is between the blue bars on the speedo...)
So the process of learning how to escape leads to the discovery of how to submit!
I love that not every single nuance is hand fed.


There are many solutions to the problem you faced - many...
It is not the games fault (or the player who was possibly or possibly not greifing you) that you chose to react in the most violent manner possible - all you did was enable the worst possible outcome for yourself.

If it were me I'd chalk it down to experience and move on.

 

[Phaaded]

It has to remain legal or bounty hunters can't check bounties from other factions with a kill warrant scanner.
Remember that you can be wanted for crimes in other jurisdictions but still show as clean in others systems...

Same with being interdicted by npc security or police - it's their right to pull you over to check you; just like in real life you could be pulled over time and time again for no real reason - good luck claiming harassment through our modern day courts unless you are seriously loaded!

As for not knowing you could submit to interdiction - I learnt it was possible because I was trying to escape and slowed down too much while following the blue circle - it flashes up in huge big writing - "SUBMITTING TO INTERDICTION" (!).
Now if you had tried to escape a few times you should have worked out that it is easier to follow the blue circle if you slow down a bit (just like normal flight where optimum manoeuvrability is between the blue bars on the speedo...)
So the process of learning how to escape leads to the discovery of how to submit!
I love that not every single nuance is hand fed.


There are many solutions to the problem you faced - many...
It is not the games fault (or the player who was possibly or possibly not greifing you) that you chose to react in the most violent manner possible - all you did was enable the worst possible outcome for yourself.

If it were me I'd chalk it down to experience and move on.

What are you talking about?

It SHOULD BE legal against wanted players, illegal against unwanted players. It's literally done by players for criminal activity against a target they can exploit. Why else would you interdict them?? Seriously??

 

[Oddball_E8]

It is not illegal to interdict someone.

And the game has never told you that it is illegal to interdict someone.

It is illegal to shoot at someone who isn't wanted.

And if you shoot at someone who happens to be wanted but without scanning them first (to actually find out they're wanted), then you're a criminal.

TL;DR It's not illegal to interdict someone, and it's illegal to attack someone who'st not wanted.

 

[nhall72]

I think interdicting someone is an aggressive (and annoying) act so if it were up to me, I'd say it should be illegal. This doesn't mean you can't do it...it just means that if you do you're going to get fined, etc. just like with any other illegal act. Of course, if you're a criminal already then why would you care?

Having said that, I'm okay with the current mechanic. I can promise you that if you try to interdict me, I will always fight it simply to ensure that you take damage...period. It's going to be expensive for you to watch me jump away while laughing at you the entire time. Go ahead, keep doing it...all the way to bankruptcy.

 

[smiths121]

It has to remain legal or bounty hunters can't check bounties from other factions with a kill warrant scanner.
Remember that you can be wanted for crimes in other jurisdictions but still show as clean in others systems...

Same with being interdicted by npc security or police - it's their right to pull you over to check you; just like in real life you could be pulled over time and time again for no real reason - good luck claiming harassment through our modern day courts unless you are seriously loaded!

As for not knowing you could submit to interdiction - I learnt it was possible because I was trying to escape and slowed down too much while following the blue circle - it flashes up in huge big writing - "SUBMITTING TO INTERDICTION" (!).
Now if you had tried to escape a few times you should have worked out that it is easier to follow the blue circle if you slow down a bit (just like normal flight where optimum manoeuvrability is between the blue bars on the speedo...)
So the process of learning how to escape leads to the discovery of how to submit!
I love that not every single nuance is hand fed.


There are many solutions to the problem you faced - many...
It is not the games fault (or the player who was possibly or possibly not greifing you) that you chose to react in the most violent manner possible - all you did was enable the worst possible outcome for yourself.

If it were me I'd chalk it down to experience and move on.

+1 this.

I had fun with another player trying to interdict me as I analysed an unexplored star - to be fair he did sort of stand out on th scanner. I was going very slowly in SC to perform the scan. I then kept turning to face the player - as he kept moving to get behind me - as you need to be behind to interdict another ship. Not sure how long until I got bored, seemed like ages - sent a chat, "not wanted no cargo". The player then hyperspaced out. I read about slowing right down and turning on this here forum.

I got a lot of joy out of the above. Easy to spot in an unexplored, fairly empty system I am learning to use the zoom on the sensors so I spot ships coming in for the interdict and evade, set speed etc. Treating Supercruise as an active action rather than line up set throttle and get bored is a lot more fun ...... and safer.

 

[smsKONG]

Edit - To Phaaded - sorry forgot to quote

There's no need to be agro mate.

Obviously no point trying to explain anything to you but I'll give it another whirl.
Regardless of what you BELIEVE should be -it isn't that way.
It isn't that way for a good reason; you can't do a kill warrant scan in SC as far as I'm aware, mine has a range of 4km and cost over 300k.
I'm also pretty sure you have to deploy hardpoints to scan - something else you can't do in SC...

So tell me again how a legitimate bounty hunter can find out if you are wanted in other systems when you are showing clean in SC.
You could have a billion credit bounty in empire space but be clean with the federation.
So the bounty hunter isn't allowed to check under your rules because he would immediately become wanted for interdicting an apparently clean target.

 

[Redcon One]

It has to remain legal or bounty hunters can't check bounties from other factions with a kill warrant scanner.
Remember that you can be wanted for crimes in other jurisdictions but still show as clean in others systems...

Same with being interdicted by npc security or police - it's their right to pull you over to check you; just like in real life you could be pulled over time and time again for no real reason - good luck claiming harassment through our modern day courts unless you are seriously loaded!

Interdiction is a seriously aggressive act, if done at the wrong time can lead to ship destruction and death. As many have pointed out a great example is our modern day truckers, they are armed to the teeth and will retaliate vigorously if confronted by an unknown. As for KWS its nice but if we are to apply it to modern stuff as you did in the last sentence only valid law enforcement can detain and check you in depth, PI's and bail enforcement can get *most* info on active warrants and major background stuff but they don't have access to nationwide or worldwide info for that they would use someone like me to dig that up or use one of their LEO sources. If you can't use a KWS then tough krap I say but you crash my ship from 100 times lightspeed just so you can try and run my name through a galaxy wide check? nuh uh..you won't have me in range for that 10 seconds just a frame shift wake and a buncha mines left behind for you to nibble on


Oh last thing there smsKONG...You can't get pulled over time and time again for no real reason and not have any recourse. You were either being an idiot or the cop was. You don't need money to file a complaint or a lawsuit. Police work off bonds, without bonds they can't work. Place a lien on their bond in your lawsuit. Know your rights.

 

[smsKONG]

Not in the UK you can't

Edit - my point was more that you can be pulled as many times as the police like - I'm not saying you wouldn't have a case if it was the same copper each time but that's not what I said!
Either way it hardly matters to the point at hand.
Though if you kept on driving away from the police as they were walking to your car (the equivalent of boosting and running!), I imagine you probably would get pulled again fairly soon

 

[Chris M Fortune]

If you stop you wont get damaged. Then if he is clean just boost up and leave. If he shoots at you and hits you he will become wanted and you can get him.
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The best way to not get interdicted so much is to not fly straight to your destination. Like when you come into a star from a jump and then go straight for a station, thats what everyone does and its the route with most traffic. I jump in, fly sideways a little bit, then steer towards the station. And while going towards the station i keep an eye on the radar, and if someone is coming my way i just move a bit to keep them at a distance. Last 10 hours i played i was interdicted once from an NPC.

I use this by accident as I always top up my tanks scooping before heading to station/next jump. This carries its own hazard of scooping and being interdicted whilst scooping.

 

[Thebadmf]

So am I the only one noticing that post interdiction, the target is pre scanned? Has been for the past few times I have submitted for free cash.

 

[nosleepdemon]

Man up OP. The guy fragged you, big frigging deal. Learn from your mistake and watch your radar for closing contacts. If you are bad at evading interdiction drop out of super cruise before the guy can get to you.

 

[Dweezil_Moon]

Uhh you guys are all wrong. If someone interdicts you it's a pretty reasonable assumption that they did so with criminal intent.

If accidentally grazing a cop while attacking a wanted ship gets you a bounty, pretty sure interdiction should get you a bounty as well.

Unless, of course, you are in an anarchistic system in which everybody is clean. Oh ... and what happens if you are in a fed system and are onlsy wanted in emperial systems?
As a bounty hunter, I can not scan a ship for warrants while they are in SC, and as others have pointed out : interdictions come with a price for the interdictor.

Seriously people, if you don't want to face potentially hostile players then just go solo or play in a private group. I never played with them, but the moebius group has around 1600 commanders and is pure PVE, so probably exactly what you want ... and let those players who actually like the fact that Elite can be Dangerous (with all the virtual drawbacks this can have) their fun.

As for official interdictions : they happen ... I have the scorchmarks to prove it (and just because of a 300Cr 'accidental' bounty too!) And I survived, so ....

 

[blarkey]

Clearly some people here are unfamiliar of EVE online-like ffa rules that this game is modeled upon (which in turn is modeled after the original Elite).

 

[schuesseled]

Uhh you guys are all wrong. If someone interdicts you it's a pretty reasonable assumption that they did so with criminal intent.

If accidentally grazing a cop while attacking a wanted ship gets you a bounty, pretty sure interdiction should get you a bounty as well.

This is just poor game design from the devs.

Interdiction is like breaking into someone's house, you wouldn't do it if you didn't want to do something bad. Yes it's that simple.

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Damn right. Poor game design.

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Uhh no, cops having the right to interdict is one thing (like getting pulled over).

Non authority vessels will interdict you for one reason, and only one reason. To cause you harm.

EDIT: ALSO, an authority vessel that interdicts you already scanned you from super cruise and found that you were wanted. A player that scanned you from super cruise and interdicted you when you are not wanted is because they found you an easy target. C'mon guys, this is simple stuff.

Firstly it's much more akin to looking through someone's window than breaking in. You are looking for that nice tv to maybe steal, or a burglar to catch.

Secondly npc's don't always attack if interdicted, criminal npcs might, because they are supposed to do naughty things. Might have to try inderdicting a cop

Thirdly you cant use cargo scanners or kill warrant scanners in super cruise, so you might just be being pulled over by another player for assessment of criminal behaviour or potential.

 

[Kolato]

Know the game mechanics before you complain about the game mechanics.

 

[S~P]

so they can damage my ship, harass me, and it's perfectly fine??? but if i stand up for myself, suddenly i'm the bad guy??

i've NEVER been interdicted by anyone other than pirates... so i just don't believe you when you say "Navy NPCs do it"

Look this is realistic, you wouldn't attack the police for pulling you car over to check you have insurance would you? Police HAVE the right to pull you over and bounty hunter may also pull you over to check if you are wanted also, as well has pirates. You can also avoid damage for interdiction by slowing down or you can plot escape vector and avoid be interdicted as well.

 

[Pingzite]

Ill be up for making interdictions illegal once you can use Kill warrant scanners, wake scanners and cargo scanners in supercruise.
Until then, Hell no.