Shared Dinosaur Enclosures

T-Rex co-exists fine with Raptors and Deinonychus packs. Every once in a while they face off for half a second, but haven't had any fights or deaths. Though, I did find out that tranquilizing a Deinonychus in the same pen as the T-Rex will cause the Rex to come kill the tranquilized dino, which I wrongly assumed was not a possible game mechanic (I assumed dinos were magically protected while tranquilized). I therefore assume that a large carnivore will eat small carnivores if they are tranquilized in the same pen. Interestingly, the same is not true for the opposite script, the Deinonychus' left the T-Rex alone when she was tranquilized in their pen...

That's also the case with Deinonychus and Metriacanthosaurus. My Metriacanthosaurus killed one of my Deinonychuses while the latter was tranquilized.
 
That's also the case with Deinonychus and Metriacanthosaurus. My Metriacanthosaurus killed one of my Deinonychuses while the latter was tranquilized.

Mine was most unfortunate as it caused me to fail a mission. I was in the midst of trying to transport said Deinonychus when T-rex came and munched him, causing mission failure for killing a critical creature :(
 
It just seems to boil down to dinosaur type.

Giant herbivores can’t be killed (unless sedated)
Armored herbivores can’t kill or be killed by small carnivores (one scripted flex)
Large carnivores can’t kill or be killed by small carnivores (small can panic)
The rest of the herbivores are just fodder for any carnivore

I just made an enclosure with 1 each of the 3 different armor herbivore types + 1 giant + 3 velociraptors. The herbivores basically don’t treat the velociraptors any differently than small herbivores, minus the flexing.

This is disappointing when I think back to JPOG from a million years ago.

JPOG is a real failure of a game. This games does a few things different than JPOG some people call disappointments. Yet JPOG was a complete disappointment. This game does a lot of things much better than JPOG ever did.
 
JPOG is a real failure of a game. This games does a few things different than JPOG some people call disappointments. Yet JPOG was a complete disappointment. This game does a lot of things much better than JPOG ever did.

Maybe we've had different experiences; I've enjoyed both games, but, objectively, JPOG offered a lot more than JWE does at this point. The only things, IMO, that JWE does better than JPOG are: 1) Dinosaur selection and genome edits, 2) Jeep/Helicopter control and experience, 3) Graphics. Otherwise, if you offered either JWE as it is currently, or a reskinned JPOG with a modern engine, I think 80%+ would prefer the reskinned JPOG. Now, this isn't static. Frontier has a good history of game support, so I actually expect that the game will be much improved 1 year and 2 years from now. But as it is currently, it is a poor sequel to JPOG. And I don't want to hear that "it isn't related to JPOG" when many of the core mechanics are literally copy-paste.
 
Maybe we've had different experiences; I've enjoyed both games, but, objectively, JPOG offered a lot more than JWE does at this point. The only things, IMO, that JWE does better than JPOG are: 1) Dinosaur selection and genome edits, 2) Jeep/Helicopter control and experience, 3) Graphics. Otherwise, if you offered either JWE as it is currently, or a reskinned JPOG with a modern engine, I think 80%+ would prefer the reskinned JPOG. Now, this isn't static. Frontier has a good history of game support, so I actually expect that the game will be much improved 1 year and 2 years from now. But as it is currently, it is a poor sequel to JPOG. And I don't want to hear that "it isn't related to JPOG" when many of the core mechanics are literally copy-paste.

Did you play the console jpog or a pc version?? As the pc versions ive played have been heavily modded, some just general improvements, others just crazy ott. It makes me wonder as I see alot of people compare the two and look at jpog with rose tinted glasses and im curious to how many played the actual release versus current mods...



Anyway in regards to op, ive mixed ankylosaurs and dilophosaurs and they get on fine, aside from the odd square up but nothing happens. First time they interacted was very interesting, the ai for the dilo made it truly look like it was thinking about how to approach and whether friend or foe.
 
Did you play the console jpog or a pc version?? As the pc versions ive played have been heavily modded, some just general improvements, others just crazy ott. It makes me wonder as I see alot of people compare the two and look at jpog with rose tinted glasses and im curious to how many played the actual release versus current mods...



Anyway in regards to op, ive mixed ankylosaurs and dilophosaurs and they get on fine, aside from the odd square up but nothing happens. First time they interacted was very interesting, the ai for the dilo made it truly look like it was thinking about how to approach and whether friend or foe.

I played the PC version with no mods. I'm not saying it was a perfect game, just that clearly Frontier used it as a base when making this game, but they left out or failed to advance so many key areas of JPOG that it's a bit of a head scratcher. I guess, I just expected that after 15 years we would get a JP park building game that advanced in most areas from JPOG, but that hasn't been my experience so far. Again, I am enjoying the hell out of the game, just hope they support it and add improvements and content, even if it's paid. I'd spend $30 for a full fledged expansion.
 
I have kept both T.rex and Indominus in large enclosures with Velociraptors and Deinonychus and had zero issues. It's a ratio of 1 to 6 (1 T.rex/Indominus with 6 Velociraptor/Deinonychus). The big guys roar at the small carnivores, and it is considered "fighting" in the status field, but it's never ended in a fatal exchange. The smaller ones eventually back down and run away. As long as the enclosure is big enough, they don't panic for long.

One exception is that the large carnivores will take advantage of tranquilized prey. Opportunistic predators, I guess.
 
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I do wish people on both sides of the JPOG debate would not keep bringing it into unrelated threads :(

Hey, JPOG is a Star Citizen of dinosaur games. You've been here long enough. You know how it's gonna end.
There will be one huge JPOG thread in the Bunker and rest of the forum will be kept clean of it. JPOG fanatics are certainly working on it hard. :D
 
I have kept both T.rex and Indominus in large enclosures with Velociraptors and Deinonychus and had zero issues. It's a ratio of 1 to 6 (1 T.rex/Indominus with 6 Velociraptor/Deinonychus). The big guys roar at the small carnivores, and it is considered "fighting" in the status field, but it's never ended in a fatal exchange. The smaller ones eventually back down and run away. As long as the enclosure is big enough, they don't panic for long.

One exception is that the large carnivores will take advantage of tranquilized prey. Opportunistic predators, I guess.

It seems to depend somehow on their attack vs. defense stats if they fight for death or just roar at each other and go along. The more agressive you modify them the more likely they will kill each other
 
It seems to depend somehow on their attack vs. defense stats if they fight for death or just roar at each other and go along. The more agressive you modify them the more likely they will kill each other

They start to give up when they get hurt, so there's some margin there.

I think a lot of us (and I'm one of them) got so used to JPOP that we think these animals - and it's carnivores we're talking about - will get along in half a dozen tiny pens, all crammed into one island but it might be time to think bigger? What about 'the whole of Matanceros' as an environment for mixed large predators so they have space to avoid each other? (Large herbivores on Sorna, small herbivores on Tacano etc) it's a snap to jump between islands. Just a helicopter ride away.

On Pena at the moment, I've made three pens on the bottom level connected with gates (ranger access at each end of the string) .. Velociraptors in one, T-Rex in next, Deinonychus in the third but I think that's best seen as a really cramped research / entertainment facility. Remodelled islands with huge ranges (restart island with a different save called Matanceros, when you've done your unlocks?) and gyrosphere access to drive around in, might be a more realistic expectation for a viable ecosystem?

Mostly though, if you add pit viper genes, it's basically not a dinosaur anymore? I reckon if you have to add herbivore skin toughness to get them to live, yes it's artificial but so is resurrecting a 65myo extinct species?
 
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I keep seeing people say this, yet every time I put raptors or deinonychus with my ceratosaurus or metri, the small ones get hunted down and eaten.
Can you post a pic/vid of this “hunting”? I just set up an enclosure with 8 deinonychus and 2 ceratosaurus to try to see it. Nothing happened, I tranquilized one deinonychus and he gets eaten but that’s not hunting.
 
When I put a Tsintaosaurus together with my T-Rex for hunting purposes.. The T-Rex lived happily ever after with the Tsintaosaurus .. Until Ms. Raptor came along and made stew from the Tsintaosaurus.
 
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