ship interiors - will they happen

[Lukaz_Chrom]

Why are you expecting full ship interiors if the cockpit takes up (for example) 1/8 of the hull and that's not enough for you.
But when you see a station vestibule that takes up 1/10000 of the station is enough for you?

AHHH So THAT is what you meant.
Well I never expected FULL Ship Interiors.
I merely expect SOME Ship Interiors
But that doesn't mean that you can pull "The Bridge already are Ship Interiors"-Card here
Because guess what; we have a MUCH stronger connection to our own actually flyable Ships,
than we have to some random-*** Station XD

 

[varonica]

How many green giants are there in the galaxy ?

That has anything to do with what exactly?

 

[Agony_Aunt]

I don’t consider that the fault of Frontier either. The original context of that video, in the Kickstarter, was very clear that these were plans for future paid expansions. In my opinion, the fault lies with those who keep posting that video out of context:

Elite: Dangerous

Take a ship and 100 credits to make money legally or illegally - trade, bounty-hunt, pirate, assassinate your way across the galaxy.

www.kickstarter.com

YMMV

My only gripe i have in relation to this is that i've only got 2 free expansions over 10 years due to my beta purchase. I had kind of expected more.

Yes, like most, i wish FD had delivered more and better - the nature of the beast and not an unusual sentiment i think.

But as to whether i've got my money's worth over the years, that's a definite yes. Another expansion or two would have been nice though.

Still, good to see FD on the right track over the last year and hope they keep it up, and who knows, maybe, just maybe, another expansion coming in the next year or three?

 

[Lukaz_Chrom]

That has anything to do with what exactly?

I think I have an answer for that:
Due to the significant abbundance of green gas giants,
it would be hard to actually implement actual atmo. Planets, BECAUSE
let's not forgett, what is also green? YES
Baseball-fields
And where do baseball-fields usually reside? YES
On actual atmo. Planets XD XD XD

 

[SergMx]

AHHH So THAT is what you meant.
Well I never expected FULL Ship Interiors.
I merely expect SOME Ship Interiors
But that doesn't mean that you can pull "The Bridge already are Ship Interiors"-Card here
Because guess what; we have a MUCH stronger connection to our own actually flyable Ships,
than we have to some random-*** Station XD

I'm sorry, but you haven't proved to me why a cabin can't be the interior of a ship. And for that matter, we have the greatest connection to the bridge and especially the chair.
So based on what you say, we already have ship interiors.

 

[SergMx]

That has anything to do with what exactly?

I mean, there's no evidence that there are many atmospheric planets with biological life.
And even if there are such planets I don't think that other birds won't have feathers and won't fly by flapping their wings.
In other words, we can say that if there is life, it will be the same.
As for the existing planets with atmosphere, it is simply worked out factories for creation of atomosphere and there were brought animals from the earth.

 

[Inscydeus]

I'm sorry, but you haven't proved to me why a cabin can't be the interior of a ship. And for that matter, we have the greatest connection to the bridge and especially the chair.
So based on what you say, we already have ship interiors.

That's like saying we already have full atmospheric landings because there are Earthlikes in game.

 

[Darkfyre99]

My only gripe i have in relation to this is that i've only got 2 free expansions over 10 years due to my beta purchase. I had kind of expected more.

The funny thing is, Frontier has until the end of 2027 to release the next paid update to meet what I considered to be a more realistic timeline for their paid expansions back in 2012 through 2014. Which would’ve been as follows:

• Release - December 2015
• Horizons - 2018
• Beyond (the free “paid update”) - 2021
• Odyssey - 2024
• Colonized Worlds and Starports - 2027
• Alien Worlds and Ship Interiors - 2030

I’ve always added 50% to any gaming company’s time estimates further out from one month.

Yes, like most, i wish FD had delivered more and better - the nature of the beast and not an unusual sentiment i think.

But as to whether i've got my money's worth over the years, that's a definite yes. Another expansion or two would have been nice though.

Still, good to see FD on the right track over the last year and hope they keep it up, and who knows, maybe, just maybe, another expansion coming in the next year or three?

Same here. I’d never I pay more than a single expansion on a “lifetime expansion plan,” when those expansion plans don’t exist.

 

[varonica]

I mean, there's no evidence that there are many atmospheric planets with biological life.

Ah sorry, ok, you're bringing the real world into it again right? There's no evidence that we will ever be able to travel faster than light, there's no evidence we will every have any type of shields, there's no evidence for a lot of things we do or have in Elite dangerous. The fact that in the Elite Dangerous universe we already have billions of planets with thin atmospheres that already support life should be a clear indication that this would also be the case for most thicker atmosphere planets to have life. Or are you really suggesting FDEV should just hide half a dozen planets with life in the galaxy somewhere for us to find, by chance, somehow, among 400b stars?

 

[SergMx]

That's like saying we already have full atmospheric landings because there are Earthlikes in game.

That's what I'm writing about, in response to the fact that we already have station walking !

 

[SergMx]

Ah sorry, ok, you're bringing the real world into it again right? There's no evidence that we will ever be able to travel faster than light, there's no evidence we will every have any type of shields, there's no evidence for a lot of things we do or have in Elite dangerous. The fact that in the Elite Dangerous universe we already have billions of planets with thin atmospheres that already support life should be a clear indication that this would also be the case for most thicker atmosphere planets to have life. Or are you really suggesting FDEV should just hide half a dozen planets with life in the galaxy somewhere for us to find, by chance, somehow, among 400b stars?

Well, I mean, you don't have to make a lot of planets with critters and a variety of critters. We got walking on huge stations in the form of a vestibule of 2 rooms.

 

[Cmdr Travers]

In order for ship interiors to happen, they need to serve a purpose. As a "vanity" feature of being able to wander around inside your own ships, that a huge volume of work for Frontier for very little payback. The only real use I can think of is being able to dock with another ship so that you can board it to steal it or its cargo.

I could see this being a problem as while it would be a huge win for a part of the player base, it would be a massive irritant for many others who just aren't interested in that, would would essentially have it forced on them as it would then be part of the background game.

 

[Jinx Chrome]

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I could see this being a problem as while it would be a huge win for a part of the player base, it would be a massive irritant for many others who just aren't interested in that, would would essentially have it forced on them as it would then be part of the background game.

why forced? Teleport can and should continue to exist in parallel. Particularly, because ship and perhaps larger station interiors will probably be a paid add-on if it ever should come.

 

[Cmdr Travers]

why forced? Teleport can and should continue to exist in parallel. Particularly, because ship and perhaps larger station interiors will probably be a paid add-on if it ever should come.

What I mean by forced is because not every player enjoys combat, and not every player enjoys FPS combat. It would be impossible to have this feature unless some interdictions inevitably ended up by being boarded by NPCs.

 

[Rory12]

Just answer WHY do we need interiors?

Just stand and look at them or go to the toilet like in StarCitizen? Thanks, that's not what I came to ED for.

But landing on atmospheric planets will at least expand the available universe. This is good for explorers. Also, battles in the atmosphere can be interesting by aerodynamics or, for example, if lasers lose half their power. We'll have to pick up new builds.

Maybe someone wants to poking around in settlements or streaming interiors for their audience. No problem. But ED is primarily about flying around the galaxy.

 

[Lukaz_Chrom]

Just answer WHY do we need interiors?

Maybe because of this
97% of Viewers (Players) Want Ship Interiors
XD

And to tell you the truth,
this entire issue of Ship Interiors vs actual atmo. Planets ist just so utterly unneded.
Nobody sais that actual atmo. Planets should NEVER come, but it is simply totally unrealistic to ask for them in the current state of Elite (and FDev).
It is true that actual atmo. Planets can EASILY hold a candle to Ship Interiors,
it is also true that, in THISorTHAT Situation, actual atmo. Planets can do so with even greater ease.
BUT:
It is just as true, that they'd be SIGNIFICANTLY harder to develop the moment you want ANYTHING even coming CLOSE to ELW.
Anyone that denies this, lives in a dream world.
Ship Interiors on the other hand, could be leagues easier.
Because they could simply be done MUCH simpler, while still being an absolutely awesome feature

Maybe someone wants to poking around in settlements or streaming interiors for their audience. No problem. But ED is primarily about flying around the galaxy.

I mean srsly ... you are actually contradicting yourself here XD
Ship Interiors ARE part of the Ship which you fly around the galaxy.
If you want to see an ELW, look outside.

 

[SergMx]

Maybe because of this
97% of Viewers (Players) Want Ship Interiors
XD

We have the interiors of all the ships. True they are limited to the command bridge, but as the stations are limited to the vestibule only - everything is in compliance!

 

[Lukaz_Chrom]

We have the interiors of all the ships. True they are limited to the command bridge, but as the stations are limited to the vestibule only - everything is in compliance!

Yeah, I guess next time you order a Burger and instead of an actual patty,
you get a nugget,
you better be fine with them telling you:
"Look you have meat on your burger, it is just limited in its amount, everything is in compliance!".

Srsly dude, if you are trying to troll, you will have to try harder than this

 

[SergMx]

Yeah, I guess next time you order a Burger and instead of an actual patty,
you get a nugget,
you better be fine with them telling you:
"Look you have meat on your burger, it is just limited in its amount, everything is in compliance!".

Srsly dude, if you are trying to troll, you will have to try harder than this

I'm never trolling, I'm trying to point out that for some reason people think a vestibule at a station is walking around the station and that's fine. Even though the command room on a ship is not considered interiors.

 

[Rory12]

Maybe because of this
97% of Viewers (Players) Want Ship Interiors
XD

This does not answer the question for what purposes interiors are needed.


ED doesn't have full-fledged VR on feet yet. The interiors will be another flat misunderstanding.

I disagree about the difficulty of creating atmospheric planets. Atmospheric planetoids already exist. This is just an extension of the mechanics. We are not talking about megacities and the Amazon jungle.