Ships for adults.

Hecatonchires

Hecatonchires
Would it be possible that the next ships you will propose to us do not look like children’s ships fan of Star Wars or Star Citizen from the 1970s, such as the Mandalay, the Corsair and soon the Panther. Please, thank you.

Why does the Type 8 look like a mining ship when it is a transport ship?

When are you going to articulate the landing gears of the ships?

When are we going to be able to move on foot in the ships?

And of course when are you going to remove the antennas, toothpicks, at the tip of the wings of the Kraits, please.
 

Inscydeus

Inscydeus
Hecatonchires said:
Would it be possible that the next ships you will propose to us do not look like children’s ships fan of Star Wars or Star Citizen from the 1970s, such as the Mandalay, the Corsair and soon the Panther. Please, thank you.
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Each to their own. I quite like the designs, even the Corsair and I'm not typically a Gutamaya fan.
Why does the Type 8 look like a mining ship when it is a transport ship?
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It looks like an industrial ship. Transport ships are industrial ships.
When are you going to articulate the landing gears of the ships?
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They aren't already? :unsure:
When are we going to be able to move on foot in the ships?
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Honestly? Probably never.
And of course when are you going to remove the antennas, toothpicks, at the tip of the wings of the Kraits, please.
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Hopefully never.
 

Stealthie

Stealthie
Hecatonchires said:
When are you going to articulate the landing gears of the ships?
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100% behind this!

Personally, I think ED's ships have an amazing level of "realism" which, honestly, I suspect a lot of people aren't aware of.
How many people know that the Eagle, for example, has a big sliding cover on the top that opens when to expose cooling ducts when it gets hot?

One of THE most "immersion-breaking" things in the entire game, for me, is to engage the ADC, use the camera-suite to watch the ship land (as I often do, because they just look so damned cool), watch the landing gear extend and then see the ship flop down onto the pad like a big static model.
It just looks so rigid and... static.

And then, of course, there's the times when you land on a planet's surface and find your ship is, apparently, balancing on a couple of it's landing struts with the others just hovering in mid-air.

Surely it'd be possible to creat landing feet that are "independant" of the ship, itself, so they can find their own level on a planet's surface and then have a telescopic section of strut to fill the gap between the foot and the ship's hull?

The actual act of landing should show the feet contacting the surface, the struts compressing as they take the weight of the ship and then the ship sinking down onto the struts and then settling as thrust is disengaged completely, ideally with clouds of dust rising as the feet press on the ground and gas being vented from the struts themselves.



It might be worth noting that ED is already capable of mechanics related to this in the way that, if you're flying a Viper, it lands on stumpy little landing struts but if you have an SRV bay fitted it'll land on comically lifted struts so there's space to deploy an SRV underneath it.
All that'd be required (and I say "all" with the understanding that nothing is ever that simple) would be for each of a ship's individual landing struts to act in a similar way to the Viper as a whole.
Once deployed, the landing feet would maintain their X and Y position relative to the ship, with their Z position a default length below it.
As the ship landed, the hull would take up it's final Z height above the surface, the feet would either extend further or retract to sit on the surface and a telescopic section of strut would extend from the foot to the more detailed part of the strut.
 
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Kira Goto

Kira Goto
Rat Catcher said:
Particularly the Beluga...
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… couldn’t you extend that to the S-K ships in general if you’re already inclined to think that way?

Not that I ever saw them as such… and I’ve never flown any of those luxury liner ships. They’re not in my market category.

Speaking of ‘adult entertainment’, where’s the person that used to take their refugee passengers from Thargoid war systems to a Titan?
 

Kira Goto

Kira Goto
Rat Catcher said:
The Beluga is a nice ship to fly, particularly in VR, then you do get a sense of how huge the bridge is, there is a whole dance floor behind the seats!
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… and I don’t play VR. Not something I’ve gotten around to trying. Currently no plans to either, just yet at least.

I would have to ask how occupants plan to dance in zero G. The only thing keeping things grounded is the magnetic boots.

On subject of OP - can’t really say I agree with the idea that the ships are not “adult” looking (whatever that really means). I am a bit mixed on the Mandalay basically looking heavily inspired by (jet?) aircraft (with an underbelly) and The Beak isn’t for me, but I would not say that they’re particularly out of line or ‘childish’ to such an extent. And the T8, like, you remove those front two outriggers or whatever the accurate term would be, all you’re left with is a comical box with thrusters attached as the T9’s little brother.

In other words, would actually look ridiculous. Panther? Don’t care much how it looks, being its main use would be for me to haul, but Frontier had a design in mind of keeping a certain industrial aesthetic coupled with the “lines” or whatever of Zorgon Peterson design and I’d say they did a decent job of getting it.
 

IstvaanDCIV

IstvaanDCIV
The OP's comment about Star Wars and Star Citizen ships is really puzzling to me. The time period in which such designs were first inspired - the 1970s - is at least 46 years ago, nearly a half-century. Anyone nostalgic for that period left their childhood behind decades ago.

I'm curious as to what the OP might be thinking of as an alternative. I'm not sure that the more rocket-ship designs from the science fiction of the earlier half of the 20th century would count. After all, when I was a little boy those kind of ships were my favourite to draw, their simpler designs being easier for my youthful hands to recreate.
 

rootsrat

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rootsrat
Hecatonchires said:
Would it be possible that the next ships you will propose to us do not look like children’s ships fan of Star Wars or Star Citizen from the 1970s, such as the Mandalay, the Corsair and soon the Panther. Please, thank you.

Why does the Type 8 look like a mining ship when it is a transport ship?

When are you going to articulate the landing gears of the ships?

When are we going to be able to move on foot in the ships?

And of course when are you going to remove the antennas, toothpicks, at the tip of the wings of the Kraits, please.
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If you want ships for adults, just strip them naked. Like, no modules etc.

See how that goes.
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
IstvaanDCIV said:
I'm curious as to what the OP might be thinking of as an alternative
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Maybe something like this, must be around 60 years old...
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Or this for a bit more modern?
firefly1.jpg
 
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