Should I keep looking for better trade route after 4100 per ton.
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I believe FD have made many errors of judgement in the production of this game, and giving recognition to those who are first at this or that (forgive me if I'm vague, I don't keep track) is one of them. The first Elite wasn't a race, nor was the second. In spite of this, or because of it, they were spectacularly successful.
It's natural to want to maximise profit, but Elite is not a race. You are not in competition. So, why, exactly, are you so glad you've found a route by which you can end the game that much sooner?
It's natural to want to maximise profit, but Elite is not a race. You are not in competition. So, why, exactly, are you so glad you've found a route by which you can end the game that much sooner?
I'm not 100% sure what that means, but I'll say this......
The glory of the previous Elite games was that you could do whatever you wanted to do whenever you wanted to do it. There was a great sense of freedom you see.
Now we have multiplayer and all the limitations and pressures on our behaviour that come with other people. The game is fundamentally changed, and I'm afraid it's for the worse.
For my part I always play solo, and at my own pace. The competitive types, bless 'em, are here today and gone next month.
Elite always was, and at its best still is, a leisurely game. Take your time and smell the entropy.
Hi cmdr spog. Is there an end to the game?. After hours of flying around stns making note of prices I come to the conclusion that maybe I've already have a good route and maybe making more notes is not needed. Although sometimes I do feel I'm in a race as I try to fit through letterbox and wham!! a ship comes flying out like a bat out of hell.
Only in the sense that eventually you get fed up with it.
Very true it does (but checking the station rotation works just as well - not sure why the arrows were added tbh)
Because some people's brains just process spatial vectors easier than others. Obviously you get it, and personally all i look for is the main axis which the rotation spins around - looking along that plane where axis lies then shows either no slot, in which case i know its on other side, or can see the slot facing me.
But i know artists that flunk basic geometry yet can visualize and draw fantastic imagery with foreground, background, and receding plane of view 'geometry' in their art. I'm sure the artist would ask why we cant draw 3D images and visualize only 2D stick figures.
The arrows were added to provide a data centric guide. It also fits Elite universe. Every landing system on earth has data feeds guiding pilots via instrumentation in addition to visual landing cues. Dont see why 3301 would be any different or less advanced.
As others have said, cr/t is meaningless. Cr/hr is what you try to keep high.
Most people posting 8+ M/hr are talking about routes that last 30 min to an hour, which to me, is not a good trade route. The only time that's good is when you have a bunch of them (routes) all close to each other and you can change routes quickly as they dry up.
I have traveled around quite a bit in PP space and non PP space, and the most I've seen SUSTAINABLE is about 7M/hr (in a 436t Conda), including smuggling. Some may make a little more if they're running a stripped out (no shields, low spec/weight modules) Conda or T9, but not much more.
IMO, when you get to Python/Conda/T9 time, you should shoot for 7-8 M/hr, and don't bother wasting time looking for unicorn routes.
Most people posting 8+ M/hr are talking about routes that last 30 min to an hour, which to me, is not a good trade route. The only time that's good is when you have a bunch of them (routes) all close to each other and you can change routes quickly as they dry up.
I have traveled around quite a bit in PP space and non PP space, and the most I've seen SUSTAINABLE is about 7M/hr (in a 436t Conda), including smuggling. Some may make a little more if they're running a stripped out (no shields, low spec/weight modules) Conda or T9, but not much more.
IMO, when you get to Python/Conda/T9 time, you should shoot for 7-8 M/hr, and don't bother wasting time looking for unicorn routes.
1- agree CR/hr is what matters - so what does it matter if someone at 8M/hr has route that lasts 30 min to an hour, long as it is accurate 8M/hour?
I prefer the comfort of shorter more frequent routes to get to same CR/hr, but whether short or long, if the CR/hr is the same - why do you first say (correctly) that CR/hr is what matters, but then say immediately after that people who post 8M/hr with 30-60min routes is not a good trade route? It's the -same- CR/hr, no?
2- Been sustaining the same trade route since starting game bit over 3 weeks ago - so not sure if 3 weeks count as sustained to you but for me right now it does - and appears sustainable indefinitely from my observations thus far
a) 9.16M CR/hour with Anaconda 448 ton cargo spec, 12 min round trip route
b) 8.6M CR/hour with slower Type 9, 496 ton cargo spec, 15 min round trip route (ran majority of my trade time in this type 9)
c) 2M CR/hour on same route when first starting out with Asp, upgraded to type 7 3.57M/hour, then type 9 upgrade as above
I have found a couple lower ~4k CR/ton profit routes that translates into about 85% of this best route, so I know more are out there, but once I found this one, no point moving on so admittedly haven't really looked much in past ~2 weeks.
I agree that for Anaconda/T9 - 7-8M/hr is good reference point to shoot for. For Python I think that is bit high - it's more reasonable to shoot for about 5.5 - 6M
I lost my notes from brief period I had trade Python which is why I did not include states above with other ships on same route I've been milking, but best I recall it was ~6M - but since this is best route I've ever seen, 5.5M seems more reasonable to tell people to shoot for with trade Python.
Only advice I'd give re: wasting time or not is if you are 100% trader then it would be wasting time. I consider myself a primary trader but I couldn't play Elite so much unless I broke up trade sessions with other stuff. So I generally play 50% session trade, and then 50% missions, explore, etc.
I would tell similar minded people to just use your non-trade session time to keep eyes open and find those golden routes - that's how I found mine, just doing missions and noticing what was sold and for how much, buy just 1 test item and carry it to whatever station your mission sends you to, so no thinking or lot of effort involved - if you take a loss, its just 1 item. But you find some good routes that way too.
you can milk your golden route AND look for more unicorns is my message. if you play more than 100% trade of course.
Blimey! I was happy with 2600cr. Well I say 'was'......................
I always forget to time myself so difficult to gauge. Best route is only 1 jump and stns are under 100ls of system so now know its a good one. Have left and finding others as getting quite busy as other cmdrs are finding route. What's the best credits per ton which are close together say 1 jump and say under 400ls of stn and system. Thanks for input.
Above answered lol thanks
Above answered lol thanks
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