Should I refund?

[LemonyNebula]

I'm on the fence about refunding. I have really been looking forward to this game and when I heard Frontier was doing it I was over the moon. However, now I see that it has really basic Dino AI (which is important in a game like this), Few actual park building opportunities, missing simple details like a day night cycle and only the choice of small areas limiting expansion beyond a certain point, I question what went wrong.

I am fine with what 'is' here. I absolutely love the graphics, the dinos look great, I actually enjoy the research and fossil systems and the genetic manipulation is a really nice touch, even if there is only a few basic stat changes and the odd colour. The music, sound, visual details such as weather effects and the helicopter pushing the trees. It just seems like the details are all in the wrong places. Things seem missing.

It really is a poor display from Frontier, the people who made possibly the greatest park builder in existence. Not only did they listen to people for years before release of Planet Coaster, but on release, if you could think of something you wanted, you would find it. The only thing it lacked was ride types and few props, but we knew they could easily add them in the future and they did.

It seems like the licensing was very limiting. They had little time to work on this, they obviously wanted to get this out for the next movie, and as the details are mostly graphical I feel like they where told they had to just make it 'look good'. So features have been pushed aside for graphical quality. I want to believe that it would be fixed and adapted over time and if it was just Frontiers IP i would have no doubt it would. Unfortunately I fear that as it is a license, they only have a few pre-planned updates, such as new dinos and movie additions. For all we know they could be told to abandoned it and the license drops after a couple of months. So the idea that they may change it in the future isn't really enough for me.

I am not sure if it is worth the £50 I payed. But there is still stuff here to enjoy and I find myself wanting to delve into it more. But with a steam 2 hour refund window, I just don't have enough time to try it more. Especially as a crash which closed the game but kept it active in task manager stole about 20 mins of that time from me. Also the camera controls just kept breaking, making the screen run off all the time until I restarted. Wasting more time.

I kind of want to stick with it, but I don't know if that's just because I feel I will miss out on what is here, and don't want to be stuck with a game I don't enjoy because I keep thinking about that price.

Bah I don't know. If only we knew this games future.

 

[mr.sugar]

I'm on the fence about refunding. I have really been looking forward to this game and when I heard Frontier was doing it I was over the moon. However, now I see that it has really basic Dino AI (which is important in a game like this), Few actual park building opportunities, missing simple details like a day night cycle and only the choice of small areas limiting expansion beyond a certain point, I question what went wrong.

I am fine with what 'is' here. I absolutely love the graphics, the dinos look great, I actually enjoy the research and fossil systems and the genetic manipulation is a really nice touch, even if there is only a few basic stat changes and the odd colour. The music, sound, visual details such as weather effects and the helicopter pushing the trees. It just seems like the details are all in the wrong places. Things seem missing.

It really is a poor display from Frontier, the people who made possibly the greatest park builder in existence. Not only did they listen to people for years before release of Planet Coaster, but on release, if you could think of something you wanted, you would find it. The only thing it lacked was ride types and few props, but we knew they could easily add them in the future and they did.

It seems like the licensing was very limiting. They had little time to work on this, they obviously wanted to get this out for the next movie, and as the details are mostly graphical I feel like they where told they had to just make it 'look good'. So features have been pushed aside for graphical quality. I want to believe that it would be fixed and adapted over time and if it was just Frontiers IP i would have no doubt it would. Unfortunately I fear that as it is a license, they only have a few pre-planned updates, such as new dinos and movie additions. For all we know they could be told to abandoned it and the license drops after a couple of months. So the idea that they may change it in the future isn't really enough for me.

I am not sure if it is worth the £50 I payed. But there is still stuff here to enjoy and I find myself wanting to delve into it more. But with a steam 2 hour refund window, I just don't have enough time to try it more. Especially as a crash which closed the game but kept it active in task manager stole about 20 mins of that time from me. Also the camera controls just kept breaking, making the screen run off all the time until I restarted. Wasting more time.

I kind of want to stick with it, but I don't know if that's just because I feel I will miss out on what is here, and don't want to be stuck with a game I don't enjoy because I keep thinking about that price.

Bah I don't know. If only we knew this games future.

If you haven´t played too long, you can refund it, wait how the games gonna do in the future regarding possible fixes and buy it again in the future, maybe even cheaper. If you refund it, it´s nothing you couldn´t take back later on. On the other hand. Other way around, if you play more, you will loose possibility to refund.

In the end, it´s up to you

 

[Factabulous]

Only you know the answer to that question...

 

[WR3ND]

Up to you, bro. Just trying to sort yourself out here or something?

To me it comes down to if I like playing the game or if I don't. I was actually rather pleasantly surprised by JWE after the likes of the IGN review, but I didn't really buy into the hype around it until much later on.

 

[Guardian Kaiser]

I'm not sure what you're expecting to get with a post like this. Maybe consult your financial advisor? Is this going to cut in to your weekly budget too much? If so, why'd you spend the money in the first place.

If you just want people's opinions, there are already a hundred threads with opinions from people who like and dislike the game. These posts are getting redundant.

 

[Rob At Work]

No you shouldn't get a refund, you took the risk.

But let it be a lesson to ya.

 

[Garssan]

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I'm on the fence about refunding. I have really been looking forward to this game and when I heard Frontier was doing it I was over the moon. However, now I see that it has really basic Dino AI (which is important in a game like this), Few actual park building opportunities, missing simple details like a day night cycle and only the choice of small areas limiting expansion beyond a certain point, I question what went wrong.

I am fine with what 'is' here. I absolutely love the graphics, the dinos look great, I actually enjoy the research and fossil systems and the genetic manipulation is a really nice touch, even if there is only a few basic stat changes and the odd colour. The music, sound, visual details such as weather effects and the helicopter pushing the trees. It just seems like the details are all in the wrong places. Things seem missing.

It really is a poor display from Frontier, the people who made possibly the greatest park builder in existence. Not only did they listen to people for years before release of Planet Coaster, but on release, if you could think of something you wanted, you would find it. The only thing it lacked was ride types and few props, but we knew they could easily add them in the future and they did.

It seems like the licensing was very limiting. They had little time to work on this, they obviously wanted to get this out for the next movie, and as the details are mostly graphical I feel like they where told they had to just make it 'look good'. So features have been pushed aside for graphical quality. I want to believe that it would be fixed and adapted over time and if it was just Frontiers IP i would have no doubt it would. Unfortunately I fear that as it is a license, they only have a few pre-planned updates, such as new dinos and movie additions. For all we know they could be told to abandoned it and the license drops after a couple of months. So the idea that they may change it in the future isn't really enough for me.

I am not sure if it is worth the £50 I payed. But there is still stuff here to enjoy and I find myself wanting to delve into it more. But with a steam 2 hour refund window, I just don't have enough time to try it more. Especially as a crash which closed the game but kept it active in task manager stole about 20 mins of that time from me. Also the camera controls just kept breaking, making the screen run off all the time until I restarted. Wasting more time.

I kind of want to stick with it, but I don't know if that's just because I feel I will miss out on what is here, and don't want to be stuck with a game I don't enjoy because I keep thinking about that price.

Bah I don't know. If only we knew this games future.

I really think a sandbox mode would fix moat of these problames. With the ability to create your own custom island with whatever terrain you like and the ability to decorate your park from zero. Similar to "jurassic park operatiob genesis" which was a breliant game btw.

 

[LemonyNebula]

Well I wouldn't mind hearing about reasons why people think its worth the money or not. I mean without being able to play enough of it that's all I have.

Normally I would just know whether I would or not, or just eat the cost and go "you win some you lose some". But I don't normally spend £50 on games. Feels wrong if its not what I expected.

I know people can't answer the question for me, but what are your own reasons?

 

[mr.sugar]

No you shouldn't get a refund, you took the risk.

But let it be a lesson to ya.

Well, in past, there at least used to be a demo.

So I understand people take the risk and then ask for refund. I think it´s fair to have this possibility. And I think people should use it more. Its simply a great tool that would give developers a signal something might be wrong with the game, therefore they would maybe work a bit harder on some issuess the game has.

 

[LemonyNebula]

I really think a sandbox mode would fix moat of these problames. With the ability to create your own custom island with whatever terrain you like and the ability to decorate your park from zero. Similar to "jurassic park operatiob genesis" which was a breliant game btw.

Couldn't agree more. It's things like this that I originally expected to be in. I don't expect PlanetCoaster levels of detail, just a bit more than it has.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

You should really know yourself. With what your own money and that.

 

[LemonyNebula]

No you shouldn't get a refund, you took the risk.

But let it be a lesson to ya.

Well I watched all the videos, and the livestreams. They spoke about all the stuff in the game and I loved it all. Sadly, they all didn't talk about what was missing. I did assume more than I knew but I didn't even think about half of it as I thought it would be a given these missing features would be in. I'm sure many people get things wrong from time to time.

 

[Rob At Work]

Well, in past, there at least used to be a demo.

So I understand people take the risk and then ask for refund. I think it´s fair to have this possibility. And I think people should use it more. Its simply a great tool that would give developers a signal something might be wrong with the game, therefore they would maybe work a bit harder on some issuess the game has.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

 

[mr.sugar]

Well I watched all the videos, and the livestreams. They spoke about all the stuff in the game and I loved it all. Sadly, they all didn't talk about what was missing. I did assume more than I knew but I didn't even think about half of it as I thought it would be a given these missing features would be in. I'm sure many people get things wrong from time to time.

Yes, you are right. Everyone make mistakes sometimes. And there is a right for you to refund and it´s nothing bad about it. But it´s in the end, rly your decision. Why should anyone decide this for you?

A fool and his money are soon parted.

If there weren´t these "fools" who pre-order games, developers wouldn´t be in very good situation. I also pre-order, but if I feel the game doesn´t meet my expectations, I just refund it. Why not? It´s your right. If you don´t like something and don´t refund it (which is your legal right) only then "A fool and his money are soon parted." apply

 

[Rob At Work]

If there weren´t these "fools" who pre-order games, developers wouldn´t be in very good situation. I also pre-order, but if I feel the game doesn´t meet my expectations, I just refund it. Why not? It´s your right. If you don´t like something and don´t refund it (which is your legal right) only then "A fool and his money are soon parted." apply

That's the way it has become but it wasn't always like that - this way is so open to exploitation it will kill gaming in the end anyway.

It is also the main reason we get partly finished game releases now which just adds to the frustration and encourages dross to be produced on mass.

 

[LemonyNebula]

But it´s in the end, rly your decision. Why should anyone decide this for you?

Same reason I watch reviews or read other discussions. It's not about convincing me or telling me what to do, just your own opinions to help me come to my own.

I have seen a lot of people say how they absolutely love the game, which is fantastic. But I wouldn't mind knowing why.

 

[CmdrJacks]

If you can't afford to waste that amount of money you shouldn't be spending it on games. So yeah, refund it and wait for a sale or something.

 

[LemonyNebula]

If you can't afford to waste that amount of money you shouldn't be spending it on games. So yeah, refund it and wait for a sale or something.

Pretty sure nobody wants to waste money. That's a quick way to lose what you have.

Question is, do you think its a waste? Or do you think its worth the cost?

 

[schrencki]

Question is, do you think its a waste?

No.

Or do you think its worth the cost?

Yes.

Should I ask for a refund ?

It depends on whether YOU think it's worth what you spent, a question only you can answer.

 

[mr.sugar]

That's the way it has become but it wasn't always like that - this way is so open to exploitation it will kill gaming in the end anyway.

It is also the main reason we get partly finished game releases now which just adds to the frustration and encourages dross to be produced on mass.

The current rules for refunding are fair and solid developers agree with them too. They are hard to exploit. I saw some developers even stating they feel it helps them (more people pre-order since Steam setup these rules). Some refund, some not, but it doesn´t hurt the developers. Saying games are partly finished because of the refund policy is completely off, games were releasing partly finished before. It actually is the reason why they came up with this refund policy, because Steam customers were concerned about it (and EU helped to force these refund on Valve).

Same reason I watch reviews or read other discussions. It's not about convincing me or telling me what to do, just your own opinions to help me come to my own.

I have seen a lot of people say how they absolutely love the game, which is fantastic. But I wouldn't mind knowing why.

I see. Well, that´s hard. Why did you think you will like the game? And why you feel you don´t like it in the end? That´s should form your decision.

I would say most people simply likes this game being about dinosaurs and there is rly nothing else to play with this theme. Bscly, if you are dinosaur lover, you have to like it, because there is no other choice on the market... It has nice graphics and everything in general, but it seems to lack in gameplay at this point. Now, what is more important for you ?