Well, PPV2 has piqued the interest of my son and he's about to pledge and is building/egnineering a Python Mk 2 bounty hunter. I have yet to work out who I want to pledge to, not sure if I should follow his lead or go my own way as I wonder if pledging to two separate powers would cause complications when we play together. But undoing that is a big no from me.
Should The Asendancy Update Be Rolled Back?
- Thread starter Gabriel H
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Seems like every time there is a major update someone starts a thread asking if the patch should be rolled back.
Its a silly thing to suggest, because rolling back is not really a simple process, especially when you have thousands of players already playing on it.
The rolling back itself could cause way more issues for players than doing nothing.
I'm half convinced that people who suggest "rolling back" know nothing about software development or even what rolling back really means, they just heard the phrase once and decided they have to use it somehow.
The solution is to fix the bugs, not roll back. Rolling back is generally left for when the released system is literally unplayable.
Its a silly thing to suggest, because rolling back is not really a simple process, especially when you have thousands of players already playing on it.
The rolling back itself could cause way more issues for players than doing nothing.
I'm half convinced that people who suggest "rolling back" know nothing about software development or even what rolling back really means, they just heard the phrase once and decided they have to use it somehow.
The solution is to fix the bugs, not roll back. Rolling back is generally left for when the released system is literally unplayable.
Sounds like a total knightmare.
Oh, and in answer to the OP's question - no.
I died
How was it pointless? They still got the cash for all of the work they did BEFORE the release of PP2, which is the same thing as everyone else got for turning in data BEFORE the release of PP2.
If you’re insisting on giving PP2 merits for data that was obtained before the PP2 release the you might as well award merits to everyone else that has ever turned in data as well.
You want to lose the Mandalay that you purchased with ARX and spent time and materials to upgrade?
How about no?
This is true, but it’s also allowed them to push new content to old programs for free.
Caution, team!
Player data and Game Code are seperate. Updating a game and rolling back an update are no different from a technical standpoint.
Signed,
A Software Developer
Player data and Game code are seperate. You may lose access to the Mandalay (depending on the rollback) but it will still be there waiting in the future, when major game bugs are actually fixed.
Worth noting, the Mandalay release was delyaed and rolled into Ascendency, so there is no reason that it shouldn't stay in game after a rollback.
You're a monster lolOTOH .. bear with me ... maybe we should roll back - the cries from the Mandy drivers as their ships vanish from under them would be worth it
As a software developer you'd be very aware that it's not the software developer doing the roll back. It's the people using the software.
Signed,
An end user.
Thing is, for a game like this, some bugs and exploits only come to light when it's been played by a great many people at once all racing for a higher rank.
Also, this many people stress tests the entire thing more than any set of employed testers ever could. That's why the servers went down for maintenance last week and when they came back online everything was running a hell of a lot smoother then it had since the update was released.
Some bugs were clearly ones that could have been caught beforehand, but FDev do seem to actually be working on them fast (see the expansions going to random Powers issue). As someone who remembers the bug of the PP 1.0 conflict zones having opposed NPCs that did NOTHING but sit there, an issue that took a MONTH to be resolved, I'm actually fairly okay with smaller bugs because it seems they're actively being tracked and squished right now!
PP 2.0 is good. Ascendancy is pretty solid, and as I said earlier, running pretty smoothly after last week's maintenance (bar the long FSD jumps at times).
Also, this many people stress tests the entire thing more than any set of employed testers ever could. That's why the servers went down for maintenance last week and when they came back online everything was running a hell of a lot smoother then it had since the update was released.
Some bugs were clearly ones that could have been caught beforehand, but FDev do seem to actually be working on them fast (see the expansions going to random Powers issue). As someone who remembers the bug of the PP 1.0 conflict zones having opposed NPCs that did NOTHING but sit there, an issue that took a MONTH to be resolved, I'm actually fairly okay with smaller bugs because it seems they're actively being tracked and squished right now!
PP 2.0 is good. Ascendancy is pretty solid, and as I said earlier, running pretty smoothly after last week's maintenance (bar the long FSD jumps at times).
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Player data structure could be changed after an update, so rolling back the game might also require rolling back save data (if such exists), or just go ahead and risk player saves becoming invalid as the older version of the game doesn't know how to handle the new save data.
Also, you're talking about the theory. I've seen a few rollbacks go boo-boo due to bad practices in version management.
Also, Mr Software Developer, i'm sure you know you only do rollbacks when absoloutely required, not just because of a few bugs that can be ironed out.
OK sure, don't roll back, but seriously fdev, fix this pile of spaghetti already.
Sometimes such complicated tasks as restocking ammo are too much for the servers, you get these error messages (see below).
An hour ago I accepted a simple wing assassination mission, which resulted in instant CTD and I even had to reboot afterwards because half of my keys stopped working for some inexplicable reason. This is borderline malware behaviour for a piece of software.
Sometimes such complicated tasks as restocking ammo are too much for the servers, you get these error messages (see below).
An hour ago I accepted a simple wing assassination mission, which resulted in instant CTD and I even had to reboot afterwards because half of my keys stopped working for some inexplicable reason. This is borderline malware behaviour for a piece of software.
Really as I recall the announcements both were always going to happen at the same time, then both got delayed a week.
But while I am sure there is no theoretical reason that a rollback has to remove both it seems sensible to a user that if the game is rolled back to before the update everything added by the update would go.