sidewinder to BP
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Ouch - he's no fraud, he's the real deal - aren't you Frawd?
Whoops. Thought you meant A* rather than Beagle. Beagle is... something else. And yes, Frawd would be the person to talk to.
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I've only gone so far as to take an non-engineered Sidewinder to Sagittarius A*. I went with an SRV because there were a few surface POI's I wanted to check out.
For a trip to Beagle Point? I'd definitely ditch the SRV and take an AFMU. The AFMU adds no additional mass so it won't effect your jump range. Mining laser? I'd be more inclined to stock up on jumponium BEFORE heading out. The con to that of course is that you might misjudge how much you'll need and end up short of your goal or worse, stranded on the wrong side of the galaxy and far from help.
For a trip to Beagle Point? I'd definitely ditch the SRV and take an AFMU. The AFMU adds no additional mass so it won't effect your jump range. Mining laser? I'd be more inclined to stock up on jumponium BEFORE heading out. The con to that of course is that you might misjudge how much you'll need and end up short of your goal or worse, stranded on the wrong side of the galaxy and far from help.
Unless I'm mistaken, a Mining laser won't cut it. You can get some jumponium mats by mining, but not not all of them.
An SRV is far better than a mining laser unless there's no place to land.
Personally, I'd go with the SRV. https://eddp.co/u/qMo5EbvV
It's a bit of a tough call though. No need for shields unless you plan to land and no need for an SRV unless you plan to land.
It is possible to land without shields if you're careful but you can't gather any mats without an SRV.
IMO the AFMU is the last option. Odds are you won't need it. You cant repair hull, and though you could repair those thrusters that are at 95%, you don't really need to.
Then again, with no SRV or shields you can extend your jump range even more. If you can stock up on the jump mats before leaving, you won't need to land.
An SRV is far better than a mining laser unless there's no place to land.
Personally, I'd go with the SRV. https://eddp.co/u/qMo5EbvV
It's a bit of a tough call though. No need for shields unless you plan to land and no need for an SRV unless you plan to land.
It is possible to land without shields if you're careful but you can't gather any mats without an SRV.
IMO the AFMU is the last option. Odds are you won't need it. You cant repair hull, and though you could repair those thrusters that are at 95%, you don't really need to.
Then again, with no SRV or shields you can extend your jump range even more. If you can stock up on the jump mats before leaving, you won't need to land.
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Well that's part of the fun and challenge.
this is a challenge
and I disagree with major klutz..
I have never landed on a planet but I've mined.
And I have syn tier 1 jump.
major k are you saying I'd need more than tier 1?
edit: I think I may see a problem.
I need a jump of 34ly
unless I enginner I don't see that happening. (I want to do this stock)
how did you do it frawd?
am I missing something?
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This completely unengineered build has 18.3 Ly range with full tank. Which means you'd need J3 FSD injection to get over the 34 Ly barrier. You cannot get J3 mats with a mining laser, you'd need an SRV or someone to prospect the mats for you (which is what happened with Frawd, the rock rats helped him).
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IIRC, Frawd didn't have an SRV or Shields. What was he using that slot for? Were AFMs in the game during that trip?
That build goes up to 21.9Ly with no SRV. Which I'm guessing is what Frawd had on that trip.
You'll need to gather jump mats beforehand or bring a friend with an SRV
That build goes up to 21.9Ly with no SRV. Which I'm guessing is what Frawd had on that trip.
You'll need to gather jump mats beforehand or bring a friend with an SRV
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When Frawd left SRVs weren't available (pre-Horizons) and the shield was ditched for range
Could you get to Beagle in a non engineered sidewinder by taking a detour and following the arm to make life easier or at least close? with only J1's (I think frawd scooped some from planet side while someone blasted rocks??), I've always crossed the abysss both pre-engineers in an Asp (~35ly iirc) and more recently Dolphin with 50+ly and that was more like "what abyss?" - 27.45 is the most you will get from a sidewinder with J1 though so that's not a viable route.
im sure the outer rim is possible though as Frawd made it
im sure the outer rim is possible though as Frawd made it
Day 130 completed:
Meet-up at Beagle Point. It was a blast despite the instance problems and server crashes...oh, and the fact that I had to get up at 1.30am and then went to bed again at 3.40am (I'm tired!).
It seems that which-ever instance the little sidey appeared I seemed to draw attention
As evidenced by these pics:
Drawing attention:
Chaff showers:
And finally, Asp riding shenanigans (with only two SRV explosions along the way):
And thanks to Cmdr Hepburn3D and his fleet of Asp-riding SRVs for putting on the show.
And finally, is that Cmdr Mr Crown Vic P71 and his brick...ah, I mean Keelback in the background
Frawd
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Taking an engineered Sidewinder to BP wouldn't be too terrible today honestly, very much like flying a Cobra III to BP pre engineers would have been. I'd say ditch the mining laser and shields and instead take the SRV along. Since you can now land reliably without taking damage sans shields you really don't need them like you did over a year ago, as long as you take care when landing. The SRV though you will need, both for collecting jump mats (which you will need!) and for sightseeing (which you will want to do!).
Have all ship types officially been to BP yet, or are there still some ships which have never made the journey?
Have all ship types officially been to BP yet, or are there still some ships which have never made the journey?
Panther Clipper...
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I have an itch. I know it has been done.
But I wanna try it.
by myself.
can I do it shielded with just a mining laser?
go with no shield and take amfu?
Frawd what do you think?
edit for typo
if I did it now I would take an ADS/DSS/fuel scoop/SRV...no need for shields.
A mining laser and shields and fuel scoop would mean you only have room for one more item...means you don't get the most out of your exploration credit-wise. But hay I didn't do it for the credits either.
Good luck with what-ever you choose. I definitely look forward to following your journey.
And since I am going on MacrosBlack's circumnavigation mission I might meet up with you on the other side of the galaxy
Frawd
Lol...well...
Frawd
If you're careful with landing on planets and scooping fuel an AFMU is not needed...however, my FSD was glitching out regularly by the time I got back to the bubble (but that was after 247 days in the black)
Frawd
I had a 22LY jump range (there were no such thing as upgrades at the time...nor SRVs when I headed out). I made it purely by the grace of other Cmdrs. They killed the rocks for me and I collected the jumponium from my sidey.
Frawd
I left the bubble when there were only three slots in a sidey...so ADS/DSS and fuel scoop is all I had
Frawd