Simple Question About Future DLCs
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(1) NO! (Fool me once, shame on you - Fool me twice... Nah... won't be fooled twice...)
(2) See (1)
(3) Nope again. I'll wait and see if the reviews are positive to maybe consider buying the DLC if it is of any interest to me.
EDO is a lot better since launch but it took 21 months and it is still far from perfect... and I think most of them will never be addressed...
Still I play EDO (mostly for the new narrative) but every time I go back to Horizon 3.8, Odyssey really feel like a cheap 3.8 knockoff.
Note: I'm not interested by the on-foot content, so YMMV.
Given that I play ED maybe two or three evenings per month and my engagement keeps getting less and less, I don´t think I would spend any more money on this game.
But it depends on what content the DLC offers, obviously.
The only thing I can say with certainty is that FDev won´t see any money upfront, they would have to deliver first.
Fool me once and all this stuff. Now I treat them like any other Dev, and that means no preorder.
But it depends on what content the DLC offers, obviously.
The only thing I can say with certainty is that FDev won´t see any money upfront, they would have to deliver first.
Fool me once and all this stuff. Now I treat them like any other Dev, and that means no preorder.
a) yes. with 1 account (as i did with EDO)
b) see a)
c) see b)
d) no. i'm here since many years. i know what to expect.
1. Yes i’d consider it. In the absence of proper paid for content Ive spent my money on other games including Elites competitors.
2. Yes why not. At weekends i like to game, so early access is something to do.
3. Yes. If i was flexing I’d tell everyone I‘d wait because once bitten etc. In reality i’d probably get it day 1.
4. Absolutely better. Covid not such an issue anymore and isolated home working is managed more than mandatory so quality should surely improve resulting in better software as they collaborate like they used to?
Listen I’ve said it before. Frontier need to be ambitious and give me something to look forward to. I say me because i only speak for me. I’ve been around since 2015 and the glory days of Elite are a distant but fond memory. I barely play now as my interest has waned and i knew it would. Star Citizen, X4 and No Mans Sky have had my time and money along with Uncharted, Callisto, Dead Space, MW and MW2, GOW, Valhalla and the list goes on. Some of that could have been Elites. I haven’t uninstalled the game yet but did consider it last weekend. My Hotas and VR headset have barely been used. Many of the forum regulars and in game Cmdrs and pirate crews have faded away. Even the guy from work i used to game with hasnt been on for months. Thargoids not really captured my imagination since the last attempt, but it is a better approach now.
Be ambitious and give me something to spend my money on.
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Yes - For all of my accounts. I love Elite Dangerous and all of the previous DLC including Odyssey.
Yes - If that was an option.
N/A - I would have already pre-purchased it (see above).
Same as before - I have had no issues and been very happy with all of the previous DLC including Odyssey.
Yes - If that was an option.
N/A - I would have already pre-purchased it (see above).
Same as before - I have had no issues and been very happy with all of the previous DLC including Odyssey.
I have a LEP (the sensibly-priced Kickstarter one) so if they do bring out another DLC I would expect to have free access to all of those anyway. If I didn't (and therefore, what I'd recommend if someone asked my advice):
- I certainly wouldn't pay for an advance purchase or alpha testing. The reward is generally some cosmetics which I won't use anyway, and enough other people have alpha access that I can probably find out what I need for my 3rd-party tools some other way. Frontier's release quality is erratic enough that letting other people experience the bugs for you is always a good idea.
- Whether I bought it a couple of days after release or waited for it to be on sale would depend on how good it was (U14 quality: on release; Odyssey: probably after about a year) and whether it had any features I was interested in
My expectation for quality predictions is that if they do bring out a new DLC, it'll be long enough after Odyssey that people have mostly forgotten Odyssey's initial problems ... in the same way that Odyssey was long enough after Horizons had been fixed up by Beyond and then given a year of general high stability after Fleet Carriers that people had generally forgotten Frontier's problems with the original Horizons release.
Secondarily, I don't think that the problem with any new major DLC will be "quality" as such. Odyssey did have a bunch of issues - especially performance - but between their fixes and wider availability of higher-end graphics cards, those aren't anywhere near as severe as before. Odyssey's main problem is that the actual content in it is a bit thin and almost all of one type (walking around) which means that even in its current "no worse than the rest of the game for bugs" state I still don't recommend purchase for anything other than "wait until its on sale for a fiver, then buy it" to anyone who doesn't already have it (because if they wanted lots of walking-around gameplay they wouldn't be asking if they should buy it) and that'd still be true if its current state was the one it released in.
No, there has to be some basic functionality first.
Been there, done that for the original Kickstarter. They've said they won't be doing that kind of thing again because it led to too much entitlement amongst some of the higher tier contributors and problems if promised features get cut at the last moment (See the whole offline thing).
If you mean purchasing a season pack like Horizons where we got base functionality first and then the it was expanded on every three months or so, Yes. I'd quite happily wait a couple of years for the next DLC, as long as the game doesn't go into Maintenance mode.
You mean, will it be as bad as the Odyssey launch? Hope not. The switch over to remote working has caused a lot of issues, which impacted development of the original DLC. However, I think they've managed to turn round the majority of those issues (yes, I know there are still graphical bugs, mission bugs etc) and improved the performance to an acceptable level. Based on that evidence, it should be better but Its Game Development and half the time you don't know how difficult a task is until you attempt it.
I already own the LEP, but otherwise I would buy the next DLC.
I am just happy they continue to support the game and add new features 8 years after release. Odyssey launch was a disaster but in the end it still turned Elite into an (even) better game.
I am just happy they continue to support the game and add new features 8 years after release. Odyssey launch was a disaster but in the end it still turned Elite into an (even) better game.
Why would I pay in advance for a product line that has a habit of delivering unfinished updates? It's better to wait until release and consider if what's on offer satisfies the need and justifies the cost for you.
I also don't pay to do a job.
"Paying to upgrade" I don't understand. DLC usually are upgrades. I would buy a DLC if I think it could be fun for me. I often do with games where I like the core gameplay.
Quality and completion - I expect honesty about the state. If it's early access, it should be labelled as unfinished product. The whole "live service" is become euphemism for "unfinished product". Quality is subjective - I expect deeper gameplay and fun ideas of devs to expand on the core game.
I also don't pay to do a job.
"Paying to upgrade" I don't understand. DLC usually are upgrades. I would buy a DLC if I think it could be fun for me. I often do with games where I like the core gameplay.
Quality and completion - I expect honesty about the state. If it's early access, it should be labelled as unfinished product. The whole "live service" is become euphemism for "unfinished product". Quality is subjective - I expect deeper gameplay and fun ideas of devs to expand on the core game.
In general - why would I ever want to prepurchase any digital product?
Yes, I’ll pay. Subscription model please!
Sure. Why not? Time and money have been spent and will continue to be spent. If paying in advance has some little rewards that come with it, even better.
No, because being a proper tester means you've been invited to test and provide feedback, which is sort of like a job. If I'm already paying in advance as I mentioned I would be happy to, I would expect alpha access to come standard with my advance payment for the DLC.
I have no problem paying for something new. I'm not the sort of person who believes I should get 3,000 hours of entertainment and infinite DLCs for a one-time purchase. I like to support the developer if I'm enjoying their game.
As for time, I dunno. A few months? 2 quarters maybe?
I always expect a bit more polish with each update. Frontier is a bit "hit or miss" when it comes to this, but so long as features are expanding, we're on the right track.
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nice shot across the bow at the lifetime backers there!.
personally I expect to get what a company advertised. it would be unreasonable to expect to get all DLCs for a product that I didn't pay for all future dlcs for.
but if I buy a game and pay more for all future dlcs in a game expected to have 1000s of hrs of play time in one shot... then that is exactly what I feel I am entitled to get.
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Whatever you feel entitled to (your wording, not mine) has nothing to do with me or my willingness to support a dev by paying for DLCs or paint or whatever else. If you feel like shots were fired, that's on you. I really don't care what others feel they're entitled to. All I did was state what I'm more than happy to do.