Smuggling missions now pointless.

InMemoriamSirocco

Banned
InMemoriamSirocco
It's the same thing every time. Someone finds a way to make lots of money fast in the game, then exploits the hell out of it until the bank account is in the billions, then posts it on the forums and calls it a possible exploit so the whiners start crying until FD hears them and nerfs the thing, so others cannot have the same advantage. Those that cry loudest on the forums are usually the same people that have already filled their bank accounts using said "exploit".

Because that is all rich people have left to do in the world: Make sure noone else gets as rich as them. Sad story.
 

Pseudofire

Pseudofire
Good point, about them running out of Credits. It could be they have a certain quota to send in. If you read the info at Foothold Orbital though, you'd see that Sothis was essentially shut down. There is a back story here I think. I like it.
 

CaptainKremmen

CaptainKremmen
InMemoriamSirocco said:
It's the same thing every time. Someone finds a way to make lots of money fast in the game, then exploits the hell out of it until the bank account is in the billions, then posts it on the forums and calls it a possible exploit so the whiners start crying until FD hears them and nerfs the thing, so others cannot have the same advantage. Those that cry loudest on the forums are usually the same people that have already filled their bank accounts using said "exploit".

Because that is all rich people have left to do in the world: Make sure noone else gets as rich as them. Sad story.
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Sad story.

Also... completely made up.
 

Theodrid

Theodrid
InMemoriamSirocco said:
It's the same thing every time. Someone finds a way to make lots of money fast in the game, then exploits the hell out of it until the bank account is in the billions, then posts it on the forums and calls it a possible exploit so the whiners start crying until FD hears them and nerfs the thing, so others cannot have the same advantage. Those that cry loudest on the forums are usually the same people that have already filled their bank accounts using said "exploit".

Because that is all rich people have left to do in the world: Make sure noone else gets as rich as them. Sad story.
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What a shame I don't fall into your little 'category'.
 

Ben Ryder

Ben Ryder
777Driver said:
Nope it's fine, I'm back out in the region. If by balls up you mean 'can I make 150 million in one run?' then yeah that's over. If you want to stack missions ranging from 500,000 up to 5/6 mill then it's still the way to go..


Edit - in the past 15 minutes I have accepted 11 million credits worth of cargo totalling 39 tonnes.. Yesterday I would probably have around 40 mill worth of cargo, can't see how anyone can really complain, we had a week of insane profits, now we have very good profits
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Cheers. I'll go and have a look and remove my face book rant :)
 

Valan

V
Theodrid said:
So let me get this straight, in the very recent past the Sothis smuggling gold rush did not exist, everyone was going about their business, seemingly happy, the odd 'Elite is boring' thread and bump was happening, but not very much. Frontier introduce the Sothis, (and other systems), gold rush, people flood to it, people exploit the log on/log offski element of the bulletin board to stack missions, it is clear, (at least to anyone with the slightest modicum of balance), that Frontier has overdone it with these missions. Some forum members point out the obvious, that these missions are overboard in terms of payouts, risk and reward and frequency, again, something that is blindingly obvious with an ounce of objectivity.

Frontier acts, because of the forum members that said these missions were OP? - probably not, Frontier do not act or listen to the community that much to be honest, it is possible but unlikely, most likely scenario here is that Frontier realised they had well over egged this pudding and acted - as they bloody well should. Suddenly, all these commanders that were happy just a few days ago, (pre Sothis), now think the game is awful, unplayable and don't want to do exactly the same thing they were doing pre Sothis? The commanders that pointed out the obvious, (that the missions were well out of kilter), are called whiners and blamed for the 'nerf' that should have come earlier than it did, it's funny, I've seen and posted in a few of the threads that said these missions were OP, there was precious little 'whining', more pure realism, the 'whining' seems to be coming from those commanders that were 'happy' pre Sothis but a few days of that and they can't seem to adjust back to reality, this is bizarre, ironic and hypocritical all at the same time.
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Probably some people in there that go on about the realism in Elite then relog to create another mission lol Guess you could role play a dimensional shift to a parallel universe where you get the same mission.
 

777Driver

777Driver
Ben Ryder said:
Cheers. I'll go and have a look and remove my face book rant :)
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Yeah it's not bad at all.. Am now on 18 million for 56 tonnes. As long as I can average more than 10 million an hour, it remains a nice alternative to bulk trading. Have noticed Elite missions don't appear often tho, so a big cargo hold is king
 

Riedquat

Riedquat
InMemoriamSirocco said:
It's the same thing every time. Someone finds a way to make lots of money fast in the game, then exploits the hell out of it until the bank account is in the billions, then posts it on the forums and calls it a possible exploit so the whiners start crying until FD hears them and nerfs the thing, so others cannot have the same advantage. Those that cry loudest on the forums are usually the same people that have already filled their bank accounts using said "exploit".

Because that is all rich people have left to do in the world: Make sure noone else gets as rich as them. Sad story.
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Ive noticed people take this stance several times now, its just paranoia.
 

777Driver

777Driver
Fire70 said:
I went out to a few stations and couldn't see anything over 500k. Most 100 - 500k not really worth the effort..

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Bit like your 5-6 million story..
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I'm about to make you look very stupid... Stand by while I upload something..

Edit - Please check the ingame date and time of the screenshot.. spawns have been reduced, but you can still get good money payouts if you wait

I am seeing 1 or 2 big payouts every 10 minutes, the rest are lower ranks up to 1.8 million, plenty to pick from if you have a big enough hold... It's balanced much better now.

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Draxxen

Draxxen
777Driver said:
Nope it's fine, I'm back out in the region. If by balls up you mean 'can I make 150 million in one run?' then yeah that's over. If you want to stack missions ranging from 500,000 up to 5/6 mill then it's still the way to go..


Edit - in the past 15 minutes I have accepted 11 million credits worth of cargo totalling 39 tonnes.. Yesterday I would probably have around 40 mill worth of cargo, can't see how anyone can really complain, we had a week of insane profits, now we have very good profits
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I can confirm this; I had a nice run last night with 3 long range smuggling missions yielding 12M profit over the course of about an hour including interdictions and everything. It still works, only the number of missions is culled and profits are not as high. You can not fill your larger cargo hulls any more, but then again you should not be able to smuggle with the larger haulers anyway. Right?

Give it a try.
 

Commander Biscuit

Commander Biscuit
I'm kind of baffled why it's good money in just select parts of the game. I've checked a lot of indie anarchy systems and I've seen a few, none for mostly penniless rank, but saw a few broker ranked missions netting around 110k rewards.

Is there now just a couple of hotspots worth using which haven't been found and nerfed yet?
 

Mephane

Mephane
InMemoriamSirocco said:
It's the same thing every time. Someone finds a way to make lots of money fast in the game, then exploits the hell out of it until the bank account is in the billions, then posts it on the forums and calls it a possible exploit so the whiners start crying until FD hears them and nerfs the thing, so others cannot have the same advantage. Those that cry loudest on the forums are usually the same people that have already filled their bank accounts using said "exploit".

Because that is all rich people have left to do in the world: Make sure noone else gets as rich as them. Sad story.
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While it is likely that there are a few who feel like that, this is not the story of Sothis. The massive profits were talked about all the way from the start, it wasn't even a secret at all, hence why lots of people flocked to it. Heck, I went there once to see what the fuss was all about once it seemed like going to Sothis and back had become one of those things you have to have done at least once (just like delivering scrap to Hutton Orbital).

InMemoriamSirocco said:
Because that is all rich people have left to do in the world: Make sure noone else gets as rich as them. Sad story.
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Now this is funny because while I completely share the underlying sentiment here regarding real life wealth distribution, this claim is still wrong. The rich do not actively seek to keep everyone poor in order to be able to enjoy their wealth even more. There may be some schadenfreude involved for a minority, but for the most part it is the underlying mechanics of capitalism itself that are driving the divide between rich and poor. It is impossible - mathematically, physically, economically - to produce one without the other, and it needs no one actively seeking to create the divide, the pursuit of profit alone is driving the divide like the uncaring, amoral process that it is.

And while your ire is justified in real life, true, it is not in the game, because quite unlike the physical world, the economy within the game is pure fantasy, and every single credit anyone has ever acquired is produced out of nothing, whereas in the real world if you get a dollar, someone else has to lose a dollar.
 
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CaptainKremmen

CaptainKremmen
At the height of the Smuggling Boom, I visited Sothis and Ceos, and found... no long-range, high-value smuggling missions at all.

"Is it over?", I thought to myself.


I turned around and headed back towards the bubble. Stopped off at every other "Sirius" outpost/station on the way back... and found a bunch of long range, high-value smuggling missions on their BBS.


I'd probably do the same now, instead of just assuming they are all totally switched off, and ranting on the forums. ;)
 

kofeyh

kofeyh
I don't mind if the rate has been reduced considerably. It was a bit ludicrous.

If one can now hang out at the customary sites for up to an hour and pick up several mil worth of missions, that actually sounds pretty reasonable. There needs to be a value proposition that makes the risk/ reward enjoyable.

No problem with a nerf bat; it needed it. For all we know they have adjusted the rates more than once today - something to keep in mind; or simply spread where said missions can be found, versus the original concentration.
 
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777Driver

777Driver
Agony_Aunt said:
Loving this thread. FD have generated more tears with a simple fix than Code have generated since the game launched!

Salty!
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So true, if people actually got out there and hunted for good remote routes instead of crying, we wouldn't have topics claiming smuggling is pointless.
 
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