So about that focused feedback thing...

[znôrt]

That is of course correct, however to trade you still need Materials. And afaik you can only trade mats of the same kind, so there is still need to farm them.

it's easy to get low level materials of any kind just by doing random stuff. they pile up. (that said, i find the whole materials grind silly and would get rid of it).

 

[Lucifera Danzig]

Could you plesae point out where I said that specifically? No, you can't. Because I didn't say that. Peope can voice their opinion all they want, they can not expect that they will always be heard though. And escpecially if what they are saying is either stupid or nonsense or non constructive. That's what I said.

More importantly, they should realize that even if every single word from every suggestion ever was heard, that's still not an obligation for FDev to implement it, especially since so many different players want so many very different things. "Not implementing" DOES NOT EQUAL "not listening."

 

[Susanna]

Yeah, they should have simply added a button to give you the stuff you need, am I rite? How about a menu requesting a completely engineered module?
/unhelpful sarcasm

Let me correct that for you...

 

[John Xenir]

Could you plesae point out where I said that specifically? No, you can't. Because I didn't say that. Peope can voice their opinion all they want, they can not expect that they will always be heard though. And escpecially if what they are saying is either stupid or nonsense or non constructive. That's what I said.

You're right, wrong quote. That's the one I was supposed to respond to, apologies for mistake.

Oh yeah? Ok then- what would you suggest?
Because a lot you read on forums is "This should be better".

How?

"Well, I have no idea- just better"

Great... I'm sure the developer will now move the "fun" slider more to the right under the "Gathering material menu bar". /rolleyes

 

[Susanna]

Yes, but: You want Material X? You still need Material Y to trade. Gathering of Material Y still stays the same as it is now, which is not very engaging. That is basically the point I was trying to make. And as far as I know you can't trade any material with any other.

Actually you pretty much can most of the time it seems. Not for very favourable odds though...

The POINT though, is that spending ages in SC looking for HGE USSs is like watching paint dry... End this Space Wash!

 

[Susanna]

Don't worry about it dude. They do this in every single thread pointing out flaws in the game. They're gonna twist you words, act like you are a petulant child wanting everything for free, claim you want the game to be just like Eve, call you a troll or a hater, or tell you to just shut up and go play a different game. It's what they do.

Pick any thread where people are talking about things they don't like or would like to see improved and you're likely to see alot of the same names doing the same thing they're trying to do here.

Well Said that man! Virtual Rep! Cos I've already Repped you... Doh!

 

[Delilah]

I like the new engineering system, I really do. But, if you read through the focused feedback forum, there is one point that comes up fairly often: The ways to gather mats! Nobody is interested to sit in super cruise for an hour and wait for a USS to pop up...because it's tedious and boring.

So...are there going to be any changes to that? If collecting all the needed stuff is interesting, engaging, funny, challenging,... the exact way, how the engineering system works would be secondary.
Just my humble opinion.

Focused Feedback has about the same role as public comment in public policy -- little relevance. It is a form of theatre designed to make community imput seem important and create a veneer of legitimacy to designs (policy) already decided upon.

Sure, enough of an outcry over something Frontier deems non-essential may make a difference. But Frontier has chosen RNG to be the primary game mechanic, and I doubt we will see this change without a change in management.