So, what are the exciting E3 announcements?

[Abomination]

Lots of people have asked for an arena-like thing (or a simulator to let you try out other ships). I have no problem with FD adding one. To say that NONE of the PC or Mac players has been asking for it is just not true.

You are so wrong, CQC was something many of us always wanted since we got used to the flight model.
Take a look at reddit.com/r/eliteracers, they are all happy because of this.

Ok, saying 'nobody' was indeed a bit over the top and maybe I should have added the words 'right now'.
Of course I wouldn't mind additional content. Doesn't matter if I like it or don't, if it's optional, fine.
Thing is, should this have been their priority? I don't think so and many others seem to agree with that statement.

Tell me you never stopped to fly around an outpost with FA off, dodging stuff and all?

Heh, oh sure, you should see me landing on outposts...
Again, I'm not against it. But the timing couldn't have been any worse.
There are so many things they need yet to finish.
And I still remember David saying they'll do everything in small steps and release them only when it's ready. That's obviously the case.

 

[WhosYourDaddyNow]

David's appearance here:

https://youtu.be/QKIOe9yeNBA?t=2h30m

(I guess just drag it to 2h30m if the link goes to live)

2:31:45 - DB: "We've had 3 great updates to the game already since launch, bu that's just the start................. Sorry. There's so much to come on PC, to announce soon..."

Watching it again makes me suspect that he WAS going to say something about a PC update, but pulled the plug in the last second.

 

[Winterwalker]

I thought the pronouncement was; we're making announcement (at E3) that "we're" excited about.
Whether anyone else will be excited is up to them! Some people here like to explore, others trade, others battle

CQC is a battle arena, if that leaves lone wolf explorers cold, not a big surprise.
Battle players aren't telling explorers they can't explore, so I can't see any big deal in letting battlers fight.

Spoiler

In the end I wouldn't mind at all if these stadiums crop up, in core systems, in the main game. I'm not an xbox user (I'd like FD to keep on layering the complexity onto ship controls and functions) and I'm not really a battler (like to keep my nose clean with the Feds if you know what I mean). So the chance of entering contest, for in game prizes, even though not a battler by trade is pretty exciting, to me at least, as it fleshes out a futuristic civilisation à la Rollerbal .. (and I DO mean the James Caan version).

xbox we knew about .. CQC we didn't .. that's the announcement FD are excited about announcing, as my guess.

 

[ianw]

I thought the pronouncement was; we're making announcement (at E3) that "we're" excited about.
Whether anyone else will be excited is up to them! Some people here like to explore, others trade, others battle

CQC is a battle arena, if that leaves lone wolf explorers cold, not a big surprise.
Battle players aren't telling explorers they can't explore, so I can't see any big deal in letting battlers fight.

Spoiler

In the end I wouldn't mind at all if these stadiums crop up, in core systems, in the main game. I'm not an xbox user (I'd like FD to keep on layering the complexity onto ship controls and functions) and I'm not really a battler (like to keep my nose clean with the Feds if you know what I mean). So the chance of entering contest, for in game prizes, even though not a battler by trade is pretty exciting, to me at least, as it fleshes out a futuristic civilisation à la Rollerbal .. (and I DO mean the James Caan version).

xbox we knew about .. CQC we didn't .. that's the announcement FD are excited about announcing, as my guess.

I think you're probably right - I know MB is due to sum stuff up at some point later this week - maybe there'll be a tidbit or two in there but I'm not holding my breath.

A nod of appreciation for James Caan and the proper version!

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

CQC is a battle arena, if that leaves lone wolf explorers cold, not a big surprise.
Battle players aren't telling explorers they can't explore, so I can't see any big deal in letting battlers fight.

No they are not. However, to a great extent, FD are. Because they have invested significant time energy and resources into building that battle arena, they have not had those resources to deploy to build, you know, a proper exploration system, rather than something that is so simplistic that it struggles to reach the level of a placeholder. Much of the angst is not about what they are doing, but the priorities they are applying. And here, everybody will have a different point of view, so that no matter what FD decided to do there would be people complaining.

 

[techie33]

play from 2:31:20

 

[Winterwalker]

A nod of appreciation for James Caan and the proper version!

Off topic but I can't abide re-makes (re-boot I don't mind) .. James Caan was definitive, and we all discovered the concept of sport going out of control in a dystopian future. Is one of the reasons I like to see CQC .. as it's one step beyond previous Elite games, so ED is a reboot and not a remake.

Much of the angst is not about what they are doing, but the priorities they are applying. And here, everybody will have a different point of view, so that no matter what FD decided to do there would be people complaining.

Yeah, I know. It's difficult I guess (though not that difficult!) so see it, that FD have to develop brand loyalty with next generation players, and to do that probably does mean bangs and whistles in today's game market ..

Fortunately, explorers are a patient bunch who play for the long term ... (??? )

 

[almostpilot]

the announcement not assumed, is that the FD will be putting aside the pc and prioritizing other areas. Anyway the game for PC will continue in bared bones for a long time.

 

[ianw]

I know it's a little off topic but I can't abide re-makes (re-boot I don't mind) .. James Caan was definitive, and we all discovered to concept of sport going out of control in a dystopian future. Is one of the reasons I like to see CQC .. as it's one step beyond previous Elite games, so ED is a reboot and not a remake.

I get where you're coming from - I too loathe pointless remakes - Get Carter being another heinous crime against a Brit cinema classic.

I also get annoyed about pubs being re-branded or worse demolished...

No they are not. However, to a great extent, FD are. Because they have invested significant time energy and resources into building that battle arena, they have not had those resources to deploy to build, you know, a proper exploration system, rather than something that is so simplistic that it struggles to reach the level of a placeholder. Much of the angst is not about what they are doing, but the priorities they are applying. And here, everybody will have a different point of view, so that no matter what FD decided to do there would be people complaining.

I'm resigned to not assessing the need to launch any brickbats until we're "there" - which I assume will be after planetary landings and walking around is in tested and tweaked. End of next year?

In the meantime it seems CQC may eventually attact a crowd that might not otherwise come - and even if they don't engage in the main game their money still counts just the same. And to be honest I can see me having a dabble in the arena too.

I'm in the camp that is currently nonplussed by PP and CGs and would like to see what we have fleshed out along the lines of the ideas FD finalised for each topic in the DDF - and would like to see that stuff from there that isn't in yet. I would like to have seen this as a priority before PP and Arena - but if the cash from Arena helps us get there then fair enough I guess.

It may take a while to get it but better late than never - would be nice to know their intentions but I really can't see the tight lipped policy changing much...

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

I'm resigned to not launching any brickbats until we're "there" - which I assume will be after planetary landings and walking around is in tested and tweaked. End of next year?

I am finding it increasingly difficult not to lob brickbats in the general direction of Cambridge. If I had faith (as I once had) that FD would get there in the end, however long that might be, then I would keep fairly quiet and just grumble into my beard now and then. But experience has taught me to not listen to what FD say, and merely focus on what they do. And, wings and a bit of mining excepted, most of what they have done in the last year has not been stuff on the feature list for the "there" that we saw during the kickstarter and in the DDA. Give me a reason (i.e. more than words) to have faith again, and I will stop lobbing brickbats.

 

[Agrar Therenus]

I still don't understand how giving Xbox exclusive content is going to help sales? Is it really the case that "Well, you PC players don't have it. So there." the whole rationale behind it?

Having it release on both platforms at once is NOT going to hinder Xbox sales-- for one it's not even new content for Xbox users, as the WHOLE GAME is new for them.

Xbox users waiting this long to play the game, won't all of sudden think "Oh, actually I'll buy the PC version instead, as this arena mode is available on both platforms."

Similarly PC users aren't going to say "Right, I'm going to buy an Xbox One and Elite again so I can play CQC for 6 months on it."


No-- this is the common marketing idiocy of late.

I'd also like to know why Xbox gamers only pay half as much as I did for the game. Indeed some payed a lot more than me.

 

[Winterwalker]

but if the cash from Arena helps us get there then fair enough I guess

Totally this. If FD were to forget the main game, as fleshed out in the DDF, in favour of console shoot 'ems, that really really really, would be, total travesty. I honestly don't imagine that being the case though, I just can't see it being the plan. That's despite threads on forum disturbing my sweet dreams by worrying about and suggesting the very idea.

Likewise about FD tight-lippedness .. They have every right to (and I'm glad they do) make a splash with any and all new feature announcements, or they just wouldn't be competent in marketing - commerce being at least as crucial as game functionality .. if you can't pay the devs you can't add the feature.

 

[ianw]

I am finding it increasingly difficult not to lob brickbats in the general direction of Cambridge. If I had faith (as I once had) that FD would get there in the end, however long that might be, then I would keep fairly quiet and just grumble into my beard now and then. But experience has taught me to not listen to what FD say, and merely focus on what they do. And, wings and a bit of mining excepted, most of what they have done in the last year has not been stuff on the feature list for the "there" that we saw during the kickstarter and in the DDA. Give me a reason (i.e. more than words) to have faith again, and I will stop lobbing brickbats.

It wasn't intended as a dig at you or anyone else - everyone makes their own assessments and as long as they aren't excessively rude or unsupported I wouldn't object even though I may disagree.

I do agree that one should always judge people - not just FD - by what they do rather than what they say - I just don't think we're at the point where we can declare it definitively not done - though I agree it is very frustrating seeing delay after delay on stuff that was apparently coming whilst other stuff comes seemingly out of nowhere.

 

[Winterwalker]

Is it really the case that "Well, you PC players don't have it. So there." the whole rationale behind it?

Michael Brookes wrote yesterday .. I forget where but trust me .. CQC will be added to the PC version later in the year. Exclusivity means "only xbox", console (as it not playstation, or god forbid, wii .. lolz at THAT thought!)

The word exclusivity just adds market value to xbox owners, and there are a few. Likely microsoft would have asked for it, because they have their own separate interest in xbox.

 

[AnnuverScotinExile]

Michael Brookes wrote yesterday .. I forget where but trust me .. CQC will be added to the PC version later in the year. Exclusivity means "only xbox", console (as it not playstation, or god forbid, wii .. lolz at THAT thought!)

The word exclusivity just adds market value to xbox owners, and there are a few. Likely microsoft would have asked for it, because they have their own separate interest in xbox.

It does not even mean that. It just means 'on just this platform - for a limited time'. We already know that a PS4 version is planned.

 

[Winterwalker]

It does not even mean that. It just means 'on just this platform - for a limited time'. We already know that a PS4 version is planned.

Then I stand corrected. The same still applies though .. Arena will (even more definitely) end up in the PC version.
It's total marketing-speak .. but the excusivity light, is shining brightly for the masses.

edit: If PS4 is on, it's a total plus one to FD's sales team .. xbox sells ED as "exclusively" .. but FD have given nothing away! PS4 ALSO gets, a different exclusive, at a later date?

 

[Badben]

Assassins Creed: Syndicate. Seriously. No multiplayer, total single player, horse and carrige jacking. It looks droolworthy.

Mad Max (what we all wanted Elite to be, with cars). I haven't been this excited by a video game since I accidentally smeared one in coffee and ate it.

Absolutely nothing to get excited about with regards to Elite though, not for many here. A CQC arena based game with ships is not immersive, it's basically world of tanks in space and it will detract from the strength of the Elite franchise. There are also other games that do that much better.

You seem to know a lot about this cqc mode, have you played it? I think it looks awesome personally, but I haven't played it yet so I can't say if its good or not, but as you seem to know already that its no good I assume you've played it. Why exactly is it not immersive exactly? Can you tell us more about it?

 

[Badben]

So, they've created a game for PC players and, recently, Mac.
They hype us up about something awesome they are going to announce at E3.
And then it appears to be something NONE of the PC or Mac players have been asking for at all.
Conclusion: they DIDN'T have awesome news for us. It's, again, hyping up for nothing but their own sales department.
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Well, great for them.
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Little advice to Frontier Development: fix your bugs, complete what you promised (ships, passenger missions, more depth in player/ai interaction) before it is too late.
More and more streamers/tubers are expressing their dislike for your current development decisions.
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It's starting to be an avalance.
No, correction, it already IS.
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Don't. Go. Down. Like. This!

Didn't you see the cqc mode? This is something I, a PC player have wanted, so please don't be telling me what PC players want or don't want, we are a large and diverse group. In case you're confused about cqc mode, it won't only be for Xbox players only, everyone will be able to participate.

 

[Titus Balls]

I thought E3 was still going ?

https://community.elitedangerous.com/node/203

Finally, I want to thank all our players on PC and Mac. We’ll have a major announcement for you soon, but for now I can tell you the new controller UI will be coming to PC and Mac later this year, and it will be joined by CQC before the end of 2015. Elite: Dangerous will keep growing on every platform it calls home.

So nothing from E3

 

[JeffRyan]

I feel a bit like FD are like my parents. I've been talking for ages about how I really want this new bike. This fantastic bike. They know we want the bike (in this case news about the paid-for expansions). It's my birthday. I leave to go to school. I see Dad in the living room and he winks and says, 'You're going to enjoy your birthday surprise son!' Your uncle phones you up and grins 'Oooh, I wish I could tell you.... I'm 'squeeing''.

Oooh I think, it's the BIKE!

I get home, both my parents jump out with the cake! Supriiiiiiiiiiiise! Happy Birthday!!! All my friends are there and it's fantastic.

'Time for your present! Happy Birthday Son!'

Pair of socks. With a bike on them.