So with the new patch for the Q4 update I'm making nada on Exploration.

[Miko]

I read something about the discovery mechanic wrongly awarding first discovered, so naturally this needed fixed. But now within the bubble I scanned a few systems, even blank ones needing manually discovered and made precisely 40k roughly for the lot.

With commander data now being shared across the Universe, does this mean that everything in the bubble has effectively become worthless to sell, even when before hand it was about the data your ship held, even in previously discovered systems? What would happen when every system is already discovered and auto shared by commanders? How do explorers up their rank much if the data becomes almost worthless?

Just asking, incase. Lol.

 

[Deadlock-3000]

Explorers aren't interested in mere money, I'm told. They do it because they like finding six different colours of space cabbage.

 

[Riverside]

I've just done a passenger mission 1,300ly out to 'the view', FSS'd nearly every system there & back to completion & mapped a few water worlds seeing as I was doing the run for the money. My 5m passenger mission got me 40m in exploration data, not a single first discovered (lots of first mapped).

 

[Miko]

Explorers aren't interested in mere money, I'm told. They do it because they like finding six different colours of space cabbage.

The value influences the rank, which I'm sure they do care about. I'm not entirely fussed myself. But I do wonder how this would work once every system is already discovered.

Maybe I'm also drawing the wrong conclusion too soon, too, though.

 

[Miko]

I've just done a passenger mission 1,300ly out to 'the view', FSS'd nearly every system there & back to completion & mapped a few water worlds seeing as I was doing the run for the money. My 5m passenger mission got me 40m in exploration data, not a single first discovered (lots of first mapped).

I guess now the first mapped will be where the new value is at.

 

[Wrecked]

I suppose they just go find one of the other 400 billion star systems that hasn't been tagged and tag it.

Regarding your 40K payout... maybe that's a bug. I wasn't even trying while traveling from one point in the bubble to another and in about 15 - 20 jumps I made 500K for literally doing nothing. The passive scans did all the work.

 

[Riverside]

I guess now the first mapped will be where the new value is at.

I'm not sure on the split, but I know the complete system bonus makes a huge difference.

Last week I went out 5,000ly to the cats paw nebula, completely scanning about half the systems on the way there with maybe a dozen small moons mapped. That earned me 80mCr. On the return journey I deliberately didn't use the FSS, I just honked, scooped & jumped my way 193 jumps home & earned less than 5mCr.

My personal view is that the payout should reward effort, so FSSing a body should pay relatively little, mapping it should pay a lot & a codex entry should be the big meal ticket.

Currently it seems to be the other way around, with the FSS unlocking big money for little effort (compared to travelling to the body to map it, or the old process).

 

[Miko]

I suppose they just go find one of the other 400 billion star systems that hasn't been tagged and tag it.

Regarding your 40K payout... maybe that's a bug. I wasn't even trying while traveling from one point in the bubble to another and in about 15 - 20 jumps I made 500K for literally doing nothing. The passive scans did all the work.

Is that after the patch this week?

 

[Riverside]

Might be a silly question but do you have a DSS fitted? Could explain the disparity.

 

[S~P]

Fully mapped 30 systems on my 5k trip out, made 121 million. 29 terraform candidates, 10 water worlds, 2 ELWs, 2 ammonia worlds and 11 gas giants with water based life. Not a bad return.

 

[Valorin]

I read something about the discovery mechanic wrongly awarding first discovered, so naturally this needed fixed. But now within the bubble I scanned a few systems, even blank ones needing manually discovered and made precisely 40k roughly for the lot.

With commander data now being shared across the Universe, does this mean that everything in the bubble has effectively become worthless to sell, even when before hand it was about the data your ship held, even in previously discovered systems? What would happen when every system is already discovered and auto shared by commanders? How do explorers up their rank much if the data becomes almost worthless?

Just asking, incase. Lol.

Exploration is not about jumping around in the Bubble, but to discover things outside of it. If just travelling around while doing missions or something else would net millions, that would be pretty silly.

 

[WR3ND]

Explorers aren't interested in mere money, I'm told. They do it because they like finding six different colours of space cabbage.

Elite Explorers' Autonomous:

I'm a professional vagabond and I don't care about credits or rank.

—Commander WR3ND

 

[Burke]

Space tramp WR3ND, space tramp

 

[kastia]

I've just done a couple of short hops in my Krait, about 1500 LY or so and racked up approx 75mil.. surface scanned most planets, with a mapping scan on the high value targets (EL, Ammonia, WW) or anything with a large amount of surface features (Biological etc).

 

[ADAMtheWELSHMANz]

Exploration is not about jumping around in the Bubble, but to discover things outside of it. If just travelling around while doing missions or something else would net millions, that would be pretty silly.

^^^^ this. Exploring - the clue's in the name

 

[WR3ND]

Space tramp WR3ND, space tramp

Sounds like a country pop song.

 

[WR3ND]

Space tramp WR3ND, space tramp

Also: Going to have to name one of my ships The Chaplin now too...

Spoiler

 

[WR3ND]

Anyway, there was another update? Maybe server-side? Haven't really seen anything more from Steam in the queue for downloads but a 0MB ping update, as it were, since 3.3 went live.

I've been out in the black this whole time so haven't seen any changes for payouts either way yet.

Cheers.

 

[Para Handy]

Not tested properly but wiggling a clear-save commander across a few systems this afternoon, FSS when discoveries were to be had (no DSS fitted), the payouts appeared an awful lot lower per system than before the 3.3.01 update.

 

[Miko]

Exploration is not about jumping around in the Bubble, but to discover things outside of it. If just travelling around while doing missions or something else would net millions, that would be pretty silly.

I'm aware, but before they rolled out the changes and this patch, you could still make decent money within the bubble for systems unknown to yourself. Now it seems either systems don't show up on Cartographic or they pay next to Nil.

I was only curious, so I could be wrong.