So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)

bitstorm

bitstorm
Well FWIW out in the Rift, got a bit carried away while doing a spot of low level recon, got a bit carried away, crashed, and am now back in the bubble.

I do not know if I can spend the time getting back out there, so I am probably out. :(

Could I suggest people go and check out the single landable planet in the beacon system EAFOTS GL-Y E2.

It's a bit unusual in that it's a terraform candidate HMC planet, I understand these are rather rare, it can't be coincidence surely?

There could be life there, of the coral variety....

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Erimus Kamzel

Erimus Kamzel
LuckyLuke said:
Here is an image of the map Shabooka shared in the brocast, showing the three 'beacon' areas, overlaid on the galaxy map created by Erimus. It also shows the two nearby permit locked sectors, Dryman and Bovomit. The general theory is an AI misjump to 'Dryman' (when they escaped the bubble over 200 years ago) and then an 'exodus' from Dryman to Bovomit, avoiding the human bubble. It also ties in nicely to what someone said a few pages back in this thread regarding the rally points. Either way, it's great food for thought:

http://i.imgur.com/nb40pwA.jpg
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This is Shabooka's theory. I just helped him with the maps and mentioned the existence of permit regions beyond the Rift and Hawking's Gap. He thinks 'Dryman' is a hint to rogue AI.


The first map shows his exodus theory from Dryman to Bovomit.

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The second map shows his exodus theory from Bovomit to Dryman, and includes Josh Hawkin's theory that the exodus was from the bubble to the three regions of interest.

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Just to clear up, this is just a theory and there is insufficient info to back it up. For example, there has been very little (if any) evidence that rogue AI are still in FDs thinking. They were talked about in the old design discussion days, but not much since then.
 

Edelgard von Rhein

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Having made it back safely from Hawking's Gap, where I was looking for Earth-like and Ammonia Worlds (also keeping an eye out for any other beacons or oddities), I thought I'd briefly write up my findings and share some insights. Hopefully this will be of use to other explorers visiting the region.
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****Observations****
systems visited: 100+, the vast majority within 60LY including most or all systems within 20LY of the system named in the CG: PLAA AEC IZ-N C20-1
Earth-like Worlds: none within 200LY (I found two on the return journey but the closest was 1700LY away)
Ammonia Worlds: 4, in three systems:
PLAA AEC RZ-G D10-51 A6 and A7
PLAA AEC AH-T C17-1 5
PLAA AEC VU-G D10-20 2
one 'green' system (contains all materials needed for jumponium): PLAA AEC KU-N C20-0
planet 2: Y (1.4%), Cd (1.8%), As (2.1%), V (5.6%)
moons 5a: Ge (5.6%), Nb (1.3%)
5b: Po (0.5%), Cd (1.5%), Ge (5.7%)
some other planets and moons also contain jumponium materials but overlapping these three (e.g. planet 1 only has Nb)
****Comments****
The highlight of my visit was undoubtedly PLAA AEC RZ-G D10-51. Not only does this system contain two Ammonia Worlds, the innermost four planets are candidates for terraforming, of which planets 3 and 4 are a binary pair of water worlds. This is a very high-value system (344,570 Cr base value) and if anyone wanted to colonise the area close to the beacons, this would be a good first choice. It is 36.06LY away from the named system.
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There are very few non-sequence stars nearby. Within 200LY I found only a lone Herbig AeBe star (it has no planets but a metallic asteroid belt - anyone else notice that the graphics for these stars have been improved? It looks very active) and one T Tauri star: PLAA AEC AH-T C17-1. The T Tauri star is 160LY away from the named system and is interesting, since it houses an Ammonia World (these are only very rarely found around T Tauri stars) and also a ringed water world, as well as one HMC candidate for terraforming. I left the outer planets untagged but this looks to be a resource-rich system.
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Despite my failure to find any Earth-like Worlds, water worlds and candidates for terraforming are abundant in the region. I also found several gas giants harbouring life, although I was in many cases not visiting distant bodies so as to focus on my search for Earth-like Worlds. Likewise, there are probably many green systems in the vicinity but I was not scanning the moons of gas giants very often, for the same reason, to find them.
****Insights****
The lack of Earth-like Worlds close to the beacons, if confirmed by subsequent exploration, suggests that the beacons are not positioned there as a prelude to a colonisation initiative. The time and effort to terraform even the most habitable of HMC or water worlds is considerable - why go to that trouble when there are, presumably, Earth-like Worlds to be found just by moving the location a couple of hundred LY (or whatever), so that the beacons are either in the system to be colonised or very close by.
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If colonisation is not planned, what is there here to make it worth marking out with a set of beacons? There are Ammonia Worlds and some resource-rich systems - is another race attempting to colonise the region? Even if they are, this is a long way from the bubble, so why get involved? Or is this place intended to be used for monitoring non-human activity? or to establish a trade station? or an embassy? (Thinking Babylon 5 style, here: a place where humans and aliens can meet and work out their differences peacefully).
Note that I did not do any exploration of planetary surfaces. This was partly because I was often playing with a laptop that is presently affected by a terrain generation problem (bug reports are in) and so I left my SRV behind. It is possible that there is something on the surface of a planet (e.g. more ruins) that has been found and that the Federation or someone else is preparing an expedition to take control of the site. Ultimately, I suspect we will have to wait until the CG is completed to find out - and only then if the Children of Raxxla win. How this helps Salome, I don't know - but I hope that it does. Keep your eyes open and your wits about you, commanders; fly safe! o7
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Erimus said:
This is Shabooka's theory. I just helped him with the maps and mentioned the existence of permit regions beyond the Rift and Hawking's Gap. He thinks 'Dryman' is a hint to rogue AI.


The first map shows his exodus theory from Dryman to Bovomit.

http://i.imgur.com/LxSYQ5M.png


The second map shows his exodus theory from Bovomit to Dryman, and includes Josh Hawkin's theory that the exodus was from the bubble to the three regions of interest.

http://i.imgur.com/3Suff0a.png


Just to clear up, this is just a theory and there is insufficient info to back it up. For example, there has been very little (if any) evidence that rogue AI are still in FDs thinking. They were talked about in the old design discussion days, but not much since then.
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The AI question is very much open. In the FE2/FFE lore(books and journals), AI, in the form of androids and intelligent ship computers are all over. There are hundreds of millions of the androids and they mostly have the same rights as humans. All the CEOs of Sirius Corporation are Androids. Their existence goes back at least to the 2800s and up to 3260ish.

All indications we have so far, are that this has been retconned significantly. It seems that in ED history, AI presence has been small scale.

Any AI Exodus that fits with the FE2/FFE lore would have been fairly resent. Long after the old lady's visit to the rift(unless we are totally of on the time frame of her adventures).
 

CMDR Reisen Udongein Inaba

CMDR Reisen Udongein Inaba
Erimus said:
This is Shabooka's theory. I just helped him with the maps and mentioned the existence of permit regions beyond the Rift and Hawking's Gap. He thinks 'Dryman' is a hint to rogue AI.


The first map shows his exodus theory from Dryman to Bovomit.

http://i.imgur.com/LxSYQ5M.png


The second map shows his exodus theory from Bovomit to Dryman, and includes Josh Hawkin's theory that the exodus was from the bubble to the three regions of interest.

http://i.imgur.com/3Suff0a.png


Just to clear up, this is just a theory and there is insufficient info to back it up. For example, there has been very little (if any) evidence that rogue AI are still in FDs thinking. They were talked about in the old design discussion days, but not much since then.
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Are we saying that whatever is in the Formidine Rift is similar to Battlestar Galatica's antagonists? That's what I get when I read rogue AI
 

JezH146

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Hi all. IN EAFOTS mucking about with beacons.

Does the 'Rally Point' point to a planet then? (e.g. I am in EAFOTS EU-R C4-1 and there is a C2 - which I am currently starting at. I also understand that the game crashes at LZ-H B10-0 planet D...

Is this being/has been tested at all?
 

Marcns007

Marcns007
Erimus said:
This is Shabooka's theory. I just helped him with the maps and mentioned the existence of permit regions beyond the Rift and Hawking's Gap. He thinks 'Dryman' is a hint to rogue AI.


The first map shows his exodus theory from Dryman to Bovomit.

http://i.imgur.com/LxSYQ5M.png


The second map shows his exodus theory from Bovomit to Dryman, and includes Josh Hawkin's theory that the exodus was from the bubble to the three regions of interest.

http://i.imgur.com/3Suff0a.png


Just to clear up, this is just a theory and there is insufficient info to back it up. For example, there has been very little (if any) evidence that rogue AI are still in FDs thinking. They were talked about in the old design discussion days, but not much since then.
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LuckyLuke said:
Here is an image of the map Shabooka shared in the brocast, showing the three 'beacon' areas, overlaid on the galaxy map created by Erimus. It also shows the two nearby permit locked sectors, Dryman and Bovomit. The general theory is an AI misjump to 'Dryman' (when they escaped the bubble over 200 years ago) and then an 'exodus' from Dryman to Bovomit, avoiding the human bubble. It also ties in nicely to what someone said a few pages back in this thread regarding the rally points. Either way, it's great food for thought:

http://i.imgur.com/nb40pwA.jpg
Click to expand...

I still think this could be a early warning 'ring of steel' and there may be other sets of beacons to form a circle around the bubble, the fact that it is on stand by and one beacon is AWAL shows an attack from someone or something!
 

Jon flint

Jon flint
JezH146 said:
Hi all. IN EAFOTS mucking about with beacons.

Does the 'Rally Point' point to a planet then? (e.g. I am in EAFOTS EU-R C4-1 and there is a C2 - which I am currently starting at. I also understand that the game crashes at LZ-H B10-0 planet D...

Is this being/has been tested at all?
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It is sort of agreed that the rally points do refer to the landable planets with that designation in the beacon systems.

A few dozen pages back I got a bit of rep from Drew when I posted that whatever was down on the surface, it would be similar to ancient ruins/alien ships and those new settlements in that it would need to be spotted by eye (no POI circles).

My personal theory was it would be some variation of the new surface settlements (with the inflateable habs) that acted as a staging post for the Dynasty expedition.
 
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rizal72

rizal72
Cmdr Zach said:
Maybe stick a "breaking news" section at the start like the Canonn thread where you can dump stuff unsorted as it happens, then eventually slot it into the relevant section when it calms down again.
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Jaiotu said:
I'd suggest wrapping each particular subsection in a spoiler tag to sort of "clean things up". It might make it easier to read or, at least, easier to find specific topics.
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I see what you did there :D

However, I've updated The Canonn Thread Front Page, adding a small section containing a recap of all this new Mystery, a couple of links to the Trello Board, to this thread, and a Map.
So that people going there, will be redirected here, after a short recap, while I can keep on keeping track of everything that needs huge Tinfoil quantities.

Fly Safe.
 
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The Lawful

The Lawful
Scary. Wondering what the big black thing at 3:57 may be (crashed ship?). The short sequence following it with the SRV driving up to some structure and the green glow all around is interesting, too.

[noob]
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Erimus said:
Yes - its been decoded already. Will post here shortly.
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Interesting - Drew's still trying to get us to think about the RR line and 'Core of the problem'.
The original clues have been somewhat forgotten in the wake of EAFOTS and the probes, so I'd take this as a 'Don't forget how this all started' pointer.
 
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