Some people dont 'get' it.
- Thread starter S.H.A.D.O
- Start date
Here's the upside, as I see it. This is an allowed behavior in some areas like Anarchy systems, as it should be. That's fine, and maybe necessary to keep those systems feeling Dangerous (well, until someone with a better-equipped ship and more skill comes along).
The "kill anything that moves" crowd will get their money's worth like they do in any AAA shooter for a few weeks or months. And then they'll get bored and move on to the next game, when they find out that there is no actual leveling-up or progress related to that activity.
Every person who buys the game without figuring out what it's actually about, and bails out for something else, is just more money for FD to develop the game they've been aiming for. I'm all for it.
I played as a psycho for a bit and splurged a lot of money on insurance but it was great fun. I'm an old time Elite player, I didn't get bored killing every player I saw and hanging about in stations exploiting any bug I could. That's beta for you. I had a kill mission recently on civ ships. A player must have been in their galactic map just sitting there. So nearly took him out, then the outpost guns were on me and security forces, he ran but when I started sniping him he disconnected. Now that's the real problem, people unfairly disconnecting not psychos that inject fun and danger in the game.
Lugalbandak
Banned
I didn't have access to my PC most of the weekend so I've been watching a heap of youtube videos on Elite and most of them are really good indeed but one in particular stuck me is odd.
I won't link it because I know naming and shaming is an offence here and I'm not sure if that applies to commanders named in videos but I'd rather be safe than sorry
anyway I watched this guy for half an hour, he very rather erratic and didn't seem to like docking and wasn't a trader and didn't do missions. for all that time all he did was attack anyone and everyone around him. Whether they were wanted or clean, that didn't matter. NPC or Cmdr, that didn't matter.
it was just attack attack attack and move from one target(victim?) to the next as fast as possible. Now I'm probably going to get a heap of flak for this but in my opinion this guy simple doesn't 'get' Elite. as he was treating it as purely a shooter and his attitude and comments seemed to reinforce that.
Do some people need educating and telling 'Hey man, its not just a 'kill everything fast' game? (btw I know some people play the role of pirate in game and I'm fine with that but this wasn't that)
Let ppl play how tey want , its in the game mechanics , atleast atm
Yeah I guess he could be taking part in broken trading or broken smuggling, perhaps broken missions, and maybe broken bounty hunting.
This is a beta test, not to mention, a video game, and some people are taking it way too seriously, acting like someone killing others must have some kind of personal problem, when he's only taking part in what he seems to enjoy, and one of the things hat isn't completely broken like half features right now.
Just wait until all features are there before judging others. Or maybe just don't judge others.
he gets it
I dont understand some of these forum posts on a game that has not released yet and is in a stage of testing. this mechanic also needs testing(are they? that remains to be proved). Well, reread the first post: "NPC or Cmdr, that didn't matter".
-----
ecaedusl
To this my little son (8 years) heartily agree: "attack attack attack and move from one target to the next as fast as possible"
It will not happen in the final version.
..............
Not really... but people should be free to play the game how they want.
Are you saying he's equivalent to an 8 year old? People get infractions for that sort of thing.
It will happen anyway if someone want's to do it.
They can shoot anything in the game they want to. It's a sandbox.
They have to deal with the consequences (or lack of them if they decide to shoot stars etc..).
Jon474
Banned
I don't really mind the presence of psychopathic killers in my Online Every Time Galaxy. Yes, I can get "killed" but my role-play persona happily accepts that risk as being an integral part of its journey around the Galaxy. Who knows, I might do the occasional Bounty Hunter job myself, just from time to time as and when the ever-dwindling bank balance requires it.
I can't get stressed by the presence of these "extreme lifestyle" characters. They presumably would really exist in any society that had spread out into the actual Galaxy. For me, the interest will be in watching how the rest of "Elite Society" deals with them. Perhaps the Authorities will hunt them down? Perhaps NPCs will be spurred on by the bounties they attract? Some players will relish seeking them out and destroying them "for the greater good". The psychopaths themselves will relish that challenge, I guess?
I don't fear the Griefers. I will probably be annoyed by them on occasion but hey, Vive la difference!
Fly Happy
Jon
I can't get stressed by the presence of these "extreme lifestyle" characters. They presumably would really exist in any society that had spread out into the actual Galaxy. For me, the interest will be in watching how the rest of "Elite Society" deals with them. Perhaps the Authorities will hunt them down? Perhaps NPCs will be spurred on by the bounties they attract? Some players will relish seeking them out and destroying them "for the greater good". The psychopaths themselves will relish that challenge, I guess?
I don't fear the Griefers. I will probably be annoyed by them on occasion but hey, Vive la difference!
Fly Happy
Jon
What would be good is if there were a mechanic so that if someone starts going all 'postal' in an area, the local npc's get a sniff of this and like a swarm of hornets start to gather and attack until whoever is causing the aggro either flees or dies.
I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult to engineer an 'aggro' hormone that an attacked ship gives off which spreads to another ship and so on.
I'm sure it wouldn't be that difficult to engineer an 'aggro' hormone that an attacked ship gives off which spreads to another ship and so on.
Ultimately I think economics will convince those who just want to attack to try other parts of the game. Just randomly shooting/ killing others will not by itself be very profitable. They will be soon outgunned by bounty hunters and traders, then they'll either winge or try something else, at which point they will discover new experiences and learn or give up.
It has nothing to do with age. I just noticed that is more or less the same kind of gameplay.
-----
Please stop repeating what I've already said: "Not really... but people should be free to play the game how they want"
And no, this is not the aspect of freedom that draws so many players to ED in the first place.
I am not sure if that is a good thing. He will get bored and instead of trolling in space he will troll in the forums !
Being a bad boy is expensive. You die a lot. Especially in Beta 2. In Beta 1 and earlier releases PVP was extensive due to the small size of the systems available and also because of a lack of punishment. Now its far more dangerous. When I attacked the player I had the outpost firing at me, within a minute or 2 there were three police vipers on my tail.
Its expensive being a bit of a psycho, I tend to do it for civ kill missions to spice things up and NPC's are too easy.
I've tried trading and exploring now I'm enjoying being bad. Still I have to trade a lot to get my equipment up to scratch and pay for endless deaths.
Not sure of my final path, most probably a bit of everything.
Its expensive being a bit of a psycho, I tend to do it for civ kill missions to spice things up and NPC's are too easy.
I've tried trading and exploring now I'm enjoying being bad. Still I have to trade a lot to get my equipment up to scratch and pay for endless deaths.
Not sure of my final path, most probably a bit of everything.
I like to think I am a pretty cheap date actually! :smilie:
'Play as you Want' does show up some of the logical fallacies in a purely chaotic system. Because obviously in a multiplayer enviroment 'How you want' might be impacting on someone else. And your playing how you want might mean they're not playing how they want. And that's the problem here. Two styles are completely incompatible.
I didn't have access to my PC most of the weekend so I've been watching a heap of youtube videos on Elite and most of them are really good indeed but one in particular stuck me is odd.
I won't link it because I know naming and shaming is an offence here and I'm not sure if that applies to commanders named in videos but I'd rather be safe than sorry
anyway I watched this guy for half an hour, he very rather erratic and didn't seem to like docking and wasn't a trader and didn't do missions. for all that time all he did was attack anyone and everyone around him. Whether they were wanted or clean, that didn't matter. NPC or Cmdr, that didn't matter.
it was just attack attack attack and move from one target(victim?) to the next as fast as possible. Now I'm probably going to get a heap of flak for this but in my opinion this guy simple doesn't 'get' Elite. as he was treating it as purely a shooter and his attitude and comments seemed to reinforce that.
Do some people need educating and telling 'Hey man, its not just a 'kill everything fast' game? (btw I know some people play the role of pirate in game and I'm fine with that but this wasn't that)
Well said, I completely agree !
I used to play Age of Conan, and had a huge bust up with a guy there that used to go around killing anyone and everyone, especially newbies and low level characters (he was a top level 80). I once confronted him and said it might be helpful if he were to imagine he was actually there, and try roleplaying rather than just ganking. He said he was roleplaying, he had chosen to roleplay a psycho.
There's no reasoning with some people LOL.